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Old 08-21-05, 04:13 PM   #1
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think about it like this, why should he be freed now, when if he never got caught he would more than likely still be out killing ppl? He has maybe learnt the error of his ways in prison, and thats good. But he should not be freed because its called a punishment and if he has indeed repented and is a changed man then he has to live with the guilt of what he did, thats y prison is a punishment, just because hes 'changed' doesnt mean u shuld let him out cuz if u did, what would be the point of prison? there would be no suffering. Also those four ppl are not the only ppl whose deaths he is responsible for! He created a gang, now every member of his gang that dies and every wannabe gang member who dies is all down to him. If he hadn't of started the gang then those ppl wouldnt die for it. so no, he should definitely not be freed.
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Old 08-21-05, 05:56 PM   #2
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^How do you know hed still be out killing people?

You cant even say that, because things happen for a reason.. if he didnt get arrested, maybe it would be a little girl that would have made him see the truth.

Its like when a friend dies, everyone starts saying 'if only I was there'... he would die no matter what, if you were there to save him from gettin shot or w/e.. he might have had a heart attack in his sleep.

But anyway.. Tookie shouldnt be free'd, he killed 4 people an he IS on Death Row but keepin him alive should be an option.
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Old 08-21-05, 08:15 PM   #3
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Old 08-21-05, 08:21 PM   #4
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^Dog, it has nothin to do with knowing the guy. Murder is murder.. even if it was Mother fuckin theresa that killed someone, you still have to pay for what you done.

Im a huge fan of Tookie an his books are amazing but let a guy off Death Row for good behaviour? Wont happen.
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Old 08-22-05, 12:19 AM   #5
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its not just good behaviour he has ultimatly changed his ways and has done so much in the world in his 24 years in death row then most of you will ever do in your whole life time....I personally think he shud be realesed from death row and atleast put into a different prison...where he can atleast see flows and stuff...
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Old 08-22-05, 01:52 AM   #6
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so then every fuckin killer can write childrens books and get a get outa jail free card...please this is rediculous if he was smart enough to create the crips dont insult his intelligence and act like we all dont know that he purposely did these "good things" to get outa jail and make himself look good. its funny how ppl only find god wen theyre in jail and not before they commit their crimes. and its even worse that these killers get your suport when it coulda been your mom dads brothers sisters or friends murdered. if anything it is his duty as a human to bring as much good into the world as he can for taking 4 lives out if it, so making thse childrens books and acting good and being a positive influence is something he should be required to do because no matter what he does he still ended 4 ppls lives.
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Old 08-22-05, 07:39 AM   #7
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so then every fuckin killer can write childrens books and get a get outa jail free card...please this is rediculous if he was smart enough to create the crips dont insult his intelligence and act like we all dont know that he purposely did these "good things" to get outa jail and make himself look good. its funny how ppl only find god wen theyre in jail and not before they commit their crimes. and its even worse that these killers get your suport when it coulda been your mom dads brothers sisters or friends murdered. if anything it is his duty as a human to bring as much good into the world as he can for taking 4 lives out if it, so making thse childrens books and acting good and being a positive influence is something he should be required to do because no matter what he does he still ended 4 ppls lives.

If anything Jail is what knocks sense into a person, not everyone but a good share. Media glorifies prison.. it aint no joke son, my uncle jus got out of jail an I have a few friends there.

Besides, hes trying to undo what he did, its not fuckin childrens books, it aint like hes sayin a few scriptures an getting out of jail. If he truly hasnt changed he wouldnt try to undo what he started an actually save people from makin the same mistakes.

You definetly speak like a high class rich white American.
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Old 08-22-05, 08:19 AM   #8
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so then every fuckin killer can write childrens books and get a get outa jail free card...please this is rediculous if he was smart enough to create the crips dont insult his intelligence and act like we all dont know that he purposely did these "good things" to get outa jail and make himself look good. its funny how ppl only find god wen theyre in jail and not before they commit their crimes. and its even worse that these killers get your suport when it coulda been your mom dads brothers sisters or friends murdered. if anything it is his duty as a human to bring as much good into the world as he can for taking 4 lives out if it, so making thse childrens books and acting good and being a positive influence is something he should be required to do because no matter what he does he still ended 4 ppls lives.


I agree, i dont think u talk like a 'rich white american', i think ur puttin urself in the shoes of someone that its happened to and seeing it for what it is. he killed 4 ppl, who had families who are all serving the 'life sentence' , y should he get out? Ok, hes a 'reformed character' but thats the point of prison to rehabilitate if ur in for minor offences but if ur in for major offences (murder) then it is for punishment.
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Old 08-22-05, 08:33 AM   #9
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Let's take a look at who Tookie killed.....

They was all gang members, therefor one can only assume those gang members he did kill, given the chance would of killed him first.......

I think Tookie is a new man, an he realizes what he did was wrong, he writes childrens books an is doin his upmost too keep street crime to a minimal....I say he's done the crime, he's served his time.....now he should be a free man.
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Old 08-23-05, 03:38 PM   #10
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Let's take a look at who Tookie killed.....

They was all gang members, therefor one can only assume those gang members he did kill, given the chance would of killed him first.......

I think Tookie is a new man, an he realizes what he did was wrong, he writes childrens books an is doin his upmost too keep street crime to a minimal....I say he's done the crime, he's served his time.....now he should be a free man.


This is the point that I attempted to get across - I am glad that someone had a clearer picture - the fact that the people who were killed were gangsters and the lifestyle that they were all living should be taken into account.
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Old 08-22-05, 01:40 PM   #12
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he killed 4 ppl. hes an animal it dont matter if he did it for money or gave us the excuse that the white man made him do it. he killed ppl there isnt any changing it, its his duty as a person to try and bring as much good back into the world as he can for the lives he took out. jail is supposed to change ppl and it wouldnt be right that he could kill somebdoy and get away with it because he served even 100 years.
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Old 08-22-05, 05:50 PM   #13
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Its Not Like He ONLY Killed 4 People

He's Killed At Least Up YTo 200 So Take That Into Account
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Old 08-23-05, 05:34 PM   #14
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well under the law of the united states everyone is equal so your ollogical way of thinkign would be correct if you moved to a country where the murder rate was higher than the birthrate and a governament didnt exist. gang life isnt an excuse
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Old 08-23-05, 06:57 PM   #15
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^You cant possibly be standing up for the US governments laws. Thas whats wrong with the whole thing in the first place.. how can someone who obviouisly is into Hip Hop lifestyle sit an say 'the government says were all equal'?

Thas bullshit. We're all equal in Gods eyes, definetly not the US government. Hes probably on Death Row in the first place because of not being equal, if it was an upper class white male that killed 4 people would he be on Death Row? Dont hide from the truth.

Nobody is equal when it comes to laws.. hard fact to face but its the truth. Just take into account all the celebrities.

You say 'we're all equal'.. but you cant tell me, killing 4 gangstas about to take your life is the same as walking into a elementary school an killing 4 little kids. Cause thas what you say when you make a statement like that.
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