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Old 02-15-04, 05:49 PM   #31
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"...all those Canadians do is hate on us, and they complain...wah..wah..wah..."


I said it! Go ahead eknock-the=fuck-outta-me.


Or you can do it off the net, either way just thought i'd caLL your bluff!
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Old 02-15-04, 07:15 PM   #32
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Ok .... this is a big deal in Canada b/c our French Canadians r very insecure about there placement in Canada, and when they think we(other canadians) are bashin on them they take it very personally....I myself do not give a shit ... the french r assholes ... and every bit was tru.... altho i can see why the french r upset and why are government is mad at the "conan" program...

the next issue...

I cant understand why Americans would say that Canada "hates america" , cuz do we actually hate anyone in the world? No, it may appear this way ... cuz we get no recognition from the States for anything .... we get blamed .... for Sars(still depicted of having it), Mad Cow (bullshit that its because of us) and other stupid bullshit ... American Citizens say Blame Canada but do you actually have any idea what we provide for you? i highly doubt it ... Fish, Oil, Wood, Meat we support american more then you think .... and as America's biggest trading we should get more respect

... its a proven Fact that americans really have no idea about what actually goes on up here .... but i bet that if an american came up here and asked random questions to Canadians about America we could answer most of the Questions

On the CBC here in Canada there was this special where they went all over the States to towns, universites(harvard) and asked americans questions about canada .... and let me tell you Americans knew absolutly nothin .... Certain questions asked were " Do you believe it would be better if Canada started to build homes rather then igloos" Now in anywhere remotely populated r there any Igloos anywhere No! this is just plain ignorance .... which isnt good for anybody

Now lets everyone learn to respectful of each other and we will be good neighbors, im sure most of you arent ignorant about canada but those older folk couldnt answer anything about Canada ....

Im done my rant lol
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I know more about Canada and it's defense operations than do most of your Military. I work to defend your nation just as much as I do my own. I train your Engineers to use the hardware that keeps your country safe. I design systems that protect your borders and keeps your Airspace secure, so it's not like I am oblivous to your Country. Yet my efforts and those of countless others never get recognized. We get rediculed and looked down upon because most do not understand the complex situations and hold defense workers in low regard. Canada provides many services to our Country, but no one in Canada wants to recognise the service we provide you. Not all but most have the same attidue. I would give my own life defending your country, as I would my own, even thought when I'm there to support your defense infulstructure I get protested against. I get treated like a red headed step child with sars. I've gotten death threats and tires slashed while in your country! Yet I do my job and offer the best service I can to your noble county, but nonetheless I get hate. I look at it as ignorance and move on. All this complaining about the US, when there are much worse people who could run this country than Bush. When those people take control of the country you'll wish we had Bush back. This country is capable of taking justt about any country in the world, yet we have only worked to liberate countires, is that really that bad in comparison to historical records of coutires with the same ratio of power. No, but when one of those true monsters takes office in DC, you can bet he's going to march right into Canada and every other country at his will. That is why I do not understand such content for our current adminstration, but I guess when the very worse happens people might soon after get a clue....
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well at least ur an informed american

u do provide us with 1 thing

security....

all tho we would never be the target of a bombing , if something were to ever happen ud be there to help

America gets enuff credit ... what kind of recognition do you think US deserves?
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well at least ur an informed american

u do provide us with 1 thing

security....

all tho we would never be the target of a bombing , if something were to ever happen ud be there to help

America gets enuff credit ... what kind of recognition do you think US deserves?


The credit we desrve is not to be likended to the war machine of Nazi germany. Comparing our President to Hitler is your form of recognition, portraying our country as tyrants is the credit we get. That is the recognisiton we get, but is not what we deserve. When America grows tired of the labels and takes actions to justify the lables then I guess you'd be right, but until then it's in the worlds best interest that America does exist today.


Sure you have not stirred up any hate towrds your country so there is not international anomosity toawds you. Does that mean that some rouge nation wouldn't raid your nation just because you guys are nice? Hell no, that makes you a target just as well. The world as fucked up as it sounds only respects power, espaicially the arab world. Saddman is proff of this, although he killed arabs by the numbers, he was the sole power of their world, so he was allowed to exsits. Do you really think you would have a country if it was relocated to the region now occupied by Isreal? Hell no, you would have been invaded by countless armies. It's nothing that can be argued, it's plain fact. The only reason Isreal survies today is it's awesome mililary might and close ties to America. If America turned it's back to Isreal Arab armies would be marching on it's captial by sun rise. I don't expect a bunch of kids to fully understand such complex defense concepts or even analize information as such, but I do expect more kids to have comon sense. I understand that I do have access to more information than you kids will ever get to see in your life time (well most of you) but it's still not hard to make sense out of. The world is not a perfect place, it's dangerous to assume peace would previal without the use of force. It never has been the case in history, what would make it the case today? Only ignorance could make such a case agaisnt historical fact!
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Old 02-16-04, 11:01 AM   #36
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Self you idiot....

Right off the top i have to say there is a difference between honest satirical comedy and outright prejudice exploitation... but i didnt' see the show so i won't say conan did anything wrong yet...

secondly, only 3 famous persons from the Great White North!!!! are you on drugs...

...seriously....

1. Actors:
Joshua Jackson, Donald Sutherland, Kiefer Sutherland, Keanu Reeves, Brendan Fraser, Norm MacDonald, William Shatner, Hayden Christenson, Tom Green, Matthew Perry, Martin Short, Dan Akroyd, Mike Myers, Howie Mandel, Jim Carrey, Alan Thicke, Phil Hartman, Michael J. Fox, Leslie Nielson, Lorne Greene

2. Actresses:
Natasha Henstridge, Neve Campbell, Pamela Anderson Lee, Jennifer Tilly, Carrie-Anne Moss, Elisha Cuthbert, Anna Paquin, Nia Vardalos, Estella Warren

3. Musician:
The Guess Who, Bryan Adams, Celine Dion, Shania Twain, Allanis Morisette, Diana Krall, Bare Naked Ladies, Crash Test Dummies, Moist(David Usher), Avril Lavigne, Sum 41

.... and so many more i don't recall here you fool... i would say canadian representation in north america is strong, if not disproportionatly large...

do your homework next time

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Old 02-16-04, 11:04 AM   #37
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But it ain't about Israel, it's about Canada, the 2nd largest Country in the world. The country with the most Natural Resources in the world, and above all that, we're bordering your country. So damn rights the U.S. will do what it takes to protect us, same goes with Mexico.

Bounce, you know your shit, and I've learned a lot from you just reading your post's. But what you must understand is, the media play's the largest role in any conflict amoung 2 nations.

First, Canada has no 'Canadian' TV channels, but CBC. The rest is American, so we watch, read and listen to your news, commercials, etc. We are force-fed American culture, but at the same time we get Arabic channels, British Channel, etc. and we see other perspectives other than our own. You have to admit our immigration standards are much more lax than yours, meaning I grew up with Blacks, Arabics, Mexicans, Jamacians, Chinese, Japanese, all on one street, not segrigated to it's communities.

You can ask any Canadian about 9/11, around that time, and they'll say..." I can't believe they'd do somthing like that to us......."

We consider ourselves family, and your our protector, we don't hate. We do hate the ignorance, like .." I like your Make-Belief flag" then we correct them and say " no, it's a Maple Leaf.." People thought my province of Alberta was a State in America!

Canada does not suck dammit.
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But it ain't about Israel, it's about Canada, the 2nd largest Country in the world. The country with the most Natural Resources in the world, and above all that, we're bordering your country. So damn rights the U.S. will do what it takes to protect us, same goes with Mexico.

But what he is saying is, if we had the mindsets of other nations, we would see all the benifets of Canada and take it over, rather than risk our lives defending foreign soil.


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Bounce, you know your shit, and I've learned a lot from you just reading your post's. But what you must understand is, the media play's the largest role in any conflict amoung 2 nations.

First, Canada has no 'Canadian' TV channels, but CBC. The rest is American, so we watch, read and listen to your news, commercials, etc. We are force-fed American culture, but at the same time we get Arabic channels, British Channel, etc. and we see other perspectives other than our own. You have to admit our immigration standards are much more lax than yours, meaning I grew up with Blacks, Arabics, Mexicans, Jamacians, Chinese, Japanese, all on one street, not segrigated to it's communities.

^ Umm, you obviously have never been to America. Right now, I am a minority in most of my classes in my college. If you are picturing America as a strictly white neighborhood with only one 'other' race at the end of the street, you are greatly mistaken.


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You can ask any Canadian about 9/11, around that time, and they'll say..." I can't believe they'd do somthing like that to us......."

We consider ourselves family, and your our protector, we don't hate. We do hate the ignorance, like .." I like your Make-Belief flag" then we correct them and say " no, it's a Maple Leaf.." People thought my province of Alberta was a State in America!

Seeing as 9/11 hit so close to home, and was directed as your protectors, you should feel some sort of sorrow for this nation over it. As for 'we just hate ignorance', the problem is alot of Canadians that I talked to believe that the majority of us are ignorant. This leads them to thinking the nation in general is ignortant, thus the hatred for America. (the Make-Belief flag thing is hilarious, never heard that before. )


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Canada does not suck dammit.

It may not suck, but there are several things that I don't like about it.
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Old 02-16-04, 11:59 AM   #39
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I lived in the U.S. for just under a year, so yes I know your ethnic diversity is as apparent as ours.

Yes I believe most, not all, but most Americans are ignorant about Canada, Canadians, and it's history, yet we learn in school from grade 1 to 12 about American laws, government, history, geography, etc.

In some cases I know more about America than some of my American friends who have lived there all their lives.
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First, Canada has no 'Canadian' TV channels, but CBC. The rest is American, so we watch, read and listen to your news, commercials, etc. We are force-fed American culture, but at the same time we get Arabic channels, British Channel, etc. and we see other perspectives other than our own. You have to admit our immigration standards are much more lax than yours, meaning I grew up with Blacks, Arabics, Mexicans, Jamacians, Chinese, Japanese, all on one street, not segrigated to it's communities.


As you said, CBC.
There's Omni One (who has rights to many American made T.V. shows)
CTV (same witht he rights thing)
City TV (again, the rights thing)

But now, we have this amazing Channel in Toronto called Toronto 1. Oh it is soooo great.
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Old 02-16-04, 12:03 PM   #41
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^ I agree Canada does not suck... People suck no matter where thier national roots stem. I think Canada is a gorgous place and has woderful people, I just do not agree with some of thier poltics. I think most Canadians are very knowledgeable on US issue's, even more so than thier own. I just do not appreciate the sentiments of hate focused on Bush or those who have a hand in the Defense industry. Prior to 911, GWB was critized for not being a forgein affiars President, soon after 911 he was forced into forgien affairs. Now he is ebing critized for being a forgien affiars president rather than a domestic affairs president. How can the left flip flop like such without peole bringing it into question? I know, people are not informed and only look to what the media is focusing on for that given period. Right now the left is slaming Bush and his campien, accusing those on the right of asking inapproreate questions into the affairs of it's prime canidiate hopeful, Keary. Why the double standard when in 1992 the left lead an assult and embaressing forum of questions aimed at the Prresident (GHB), detailing a certain fling with a coutner part as the vice president? If more people were aware of such scandaless tacttics, more peole could see the manipulation and mistrust breed into the party on the left. It's all so plain to see on paper, yet most eye's never see the fact sheets, they only see what they are blindly lead to see. I appluaed those who dig further and uncover these never mentioned issue's burried in time. I mean how many kids today are being told that 911 was a ploy or scare tactic manipulated my Bush to gain poularity for his demented war? It's even been suggested He planned the attacks himself, in which case is the most ignorant thing a person say. So although no party is perfect it is up to the citezen's keen eye to determine fiction from fact. Right now as the chips fall, the fact is far more credable than the fiction. Guy's like Mickeal moore (sp?) make great films for entertainment value, but I would not allow my own childs view of the world be distorted by his ignorance. He is not on the countries list of national security breifs or does he sit in on intellegence commities. He's just another guy with an opinion in Hollyood. Opinions are just like assholes, everyones got them! And if not, your shit out of luck!


(yeah, so sue my spelling is horendous and I type much worse than I spell, but you get the message, I hope...)
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Jean Cretien (sp?) is a fucking idiot. He put Canada to shame. Much worse then Bush has ever done to America.
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obviously it was a publicity stunt for the government

in the opening statemetn it said the reason they wanted conan was to try to make the city more appealing,

wut better way than contreversy
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Canada is like little America, except bigger, i say little America because we have many more people, not that their the same, but their more similar than most countries, but they are obviously different
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^ Bounce I hear what your say'n, and what I'm about to say to you might be offending, especially to you.

-BUT-

Isn't the big issue in the U.S. right now, intellegence? How credible is it? Who's doing/saying what? How is it handled? Who do you believe? The subject of intellegence in which you set your entire beliefs and standards on becuase it is your job, is the burning issue in the U.S. Government and Media right now. I do understand your opinions on such people as Michael Moore, but he was the direct person in which brought the entire " Did Bush Serve his time" issue that's ben happening. A couple of weeks ago he called Bush a 'desserter' and got in a lot of shit for it. Now it's a massive issue in which the media/public wanted answers.

So yes, he's for sure an entertaining writer, and such, but his opinons, facts, intellegence, and words are being used, listened to and demonstrated in politics today.

And from a Canadian stand point, people ask me why I care about politics, America, and all that so much, it's becuase you don't realize how much the 'trickle-down' effect, really effects us here. Take Mad Cow for example. 1 cow, and the U.S. closes it's border to us. 1000's of Farmers a skrewed for the next 10 years becuase of this 1 cow. ANd when the U.S. found there Cow, we didn't close our borders cuz we know the effect. All this War on Terror changed the way we live our lives too, and we've always supported Americans.

I mean Rumsfeld made a great point the other day....." it's easy to gather and investigate intellegence after the fact, but if your racing the clock, and you need to figure it out before somthing happens, you got to act with instinct...."
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