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Old 01-26-04, 04:02 PM   #1
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My Opinion On Abortion...

If Two People Are Going To Have Unsafe Sex...Then They Obviously Think That They Are Responsible For The Risks Of Having A Baby, And Taking Care Of It...

Only Reason For An Abortion, Is If The Baby Was Born From Rape...


Unsafe sex is having sex without "protection" against STD's.

That is complete bullshit when it comes to "responsibility" of becoming a parent. Kids don't think about the risks involved. Well, at one time or another most people won't think about the risks of something also. By saying "If Two People Are Going To Have Unsafe Sex...Then They Obviously Think That They Are Responsible For The Risks Of Having A Baby, And Taking Care Of It..." you are saying that you have never done anything wrong, and never will.

And back to the whole part about having sex without the use of some sort of birth control device, they are not 100% effective. So what about those people who do get pregnant and wore condoms?
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Old 01-26-04, 07:04 AM   #2
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erm.....There are Ethical issues arisen by abortion...N I tink its wrong
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Old 01-26-04, 08:51 AM   #3
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I will reply to this later, I must leave for now.

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Old 01-26-04, 01:45 PM   #4
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Guess Who Did A Research Paper on Abortion? Yep, me.

For all the bullshit excuses I've seen in this thread...this is for you.

Should abortion be allowed? That would be a no...or more of a Hell mother fuckin naw.

"Oh but little suzy was raped and gored and now her pussy's really wide and she got pregnant and it's all so disturbing! *teardrop*"

Only 3% of all rape victims become pregnant. Of that 3%, over 72% have miscarriages within the first month. Now I know all of you are gonna come in with stories of your grandmother, cousin's friend, and best friend's mother's PTA buddy and how they got raped and became pregnant and didn't have a miscarriage. HOwever, 99% of you bitches are pathological liars anyway, so who gives a fuck what examples you give. To me...the statistics shown are not enough reason to have an abortion clinic...because these people won't be the ones using it. Oh, that's right, I did forget to mention that of the 28% who actually do serve a full term pregnancy, or could serve one if they choose to, 97% decide to go through with the birthing process, and 64% don't put them up for adoption, they keep the baby.

Now....For the next point.

"The girl's only 13-18 her life's just starting! It's just not right, why should she throw her life away simply because she's some skank ho who decided to fall on top of every cock she sees."

^I can make that quote...because this statement doesn't apply to rape...I've already attended to the rape issue. Why no abortion for these? They made their bed, let em fuckin lie in it. Why should a little baby be murdered because they were stupid. That's the most ignorant assanine bullshit I've ever heard. Oh, but their life's just starting....yeah, well so's the fuckin baby's. They had their shot, they blew it...it's the baby's turn. I don't give a shit if she is 13...if she willingly sucked and fucked then it's the consequences of her actions and now the little bitch has got to deal with it. Oh, but she can't take care of it.....put it up for adoption...dumb hussy.

"Well, you have to choose between the mother and the baby."

This is the only valid argument for any pro-choicers. A very tough call indeed. This is really a judgement issue, and I don't consider this abortion in the terms as it is normally referred to. Personally, I don't know what I would do if my wife had to make that choice...and I don't know what I would tell her. All I know is that this is the only reason I could EVER see the baby being killed as a valid option.
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Old 01-26-04, 03:03 PM   #5
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Guess Who Did A Research Paper on Abortion? Yep, me.

For all the bullshit excuses I've seen in this thread...this is for you.

Should abortion be allowed? That would be a no...or more of a Hell mother fuckin naw.

"Oh but little suzy was raped and gored and now her pussy's really wide and she got pregnant and it's all so disturbing! *teardrop*"

Only 3% of all rape victims become pregnant. Of that 3%, over 72% have miscarriages within the first month. Now I know all of you are gonna come in with stories of your grandmother, cousin's friend, and best friend's mother's PTA buddy and how they got raped and became pregnant and didn't have a miscarriage. HOwever, 99% of you bitches are pathological liars anyway, so who gives a fuck what examples you give. To me...the statistics shown are not enough reason to have an abortion clinic...because these people won't be the ones using it. Oh, that's right, I did forget to mention that of the 28% who actually do serve a full term pregnancy, or could serve one if they choose to, 97% decide to go through with the birthing process, and 64% don't put them up for adoption, they keep the baby.

Now....For the next point.

"The girl's only 13-18 her life's just starting! It's just not right, why should she throw her life away simply because she's some skank ho who decided to fall on top of every cock she sees."

^I can make that quote...because this statement doesn't apply to rape...I've already attended to the rape issue. Why no abortion for these? They made their bed, let em fuckin lie in it. Why should a little baby be murdered because they were stupid. That's the most ignorant assanine bullshit I've ever heard. Oh, but their life's just starting....yeah, well so's the fuckin baby's. They had their shot, they blew it...it's the baby's turn. I don't give a shit if she is 13...if she willingly sucked and fucked then it's the consequences of her actions and now the little bitch has got to deal with it. Oh, but she can't take care of it.....put it up for adoption...dumb hussy.

"Well, you have to choose between the mother and the baby."

This is the only valid argument for any pro-choicers. A very tough call indeed. This is really a judgement issue, and I don't consider this abortion in the terms as it is normally referred to. Personally, I don't know what I would do if my wife had to make that choice...and I don't know what I would tell her. All I know is that this is the only reason I could EVER see the baby being killed as a valid option.



And that... is word. Nice point lethargic.. exactly what i think & didn't want to take the time to say because these petty hoes would just argue with sense anyway .
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Old 01-26-04, 01:53 PM   #6
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abortion is down to personal choice, in my opinion, i would have an abortion if i felt that i truly could'nt cope. At 15, i don't think that i would have the strength physically or emotionally to deal with looking after a small child, i would be responsible for forming a future..and at this point in time, i feel i am not ready for a child. The thing is, there are so many unwanted children on the streets or in childrens homes, and its not fair, they didn't ask to be born into a strangers arms, they did not deserve the hand they were dealt..but this tradgedy could be helped if people used contraception, at least, there would be less chance of us having to make that vital decision.
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Old 01-26-04, 02:01 PM   #7
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^Bullshit, that's an excuse. If you don't want the kid...then stay abstinent or fuckin deal with your consequences. If you can't handle it...fine, put the kid up for adoption after it's born. You always hear this shit about "These kids are in childrens homes leading sad lives." What a crock...there are waiting lists miles long for people waiting to adopt kids. ESPECIALLY infants.
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Old 01-26-04, 04:14 PM   #8
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^Bullshit, that's an excuse. If you don't want the kid...then stay abstinent or fuckin deal with your consequences.


I have respect for you an all man, but how disrespectful. You just called a child a "consequence". And is that fair to the baby? To grow up as a "mistake"? Please, that kids life will be shit.
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Old 01-26-04, 04:22 PM   #9
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I have respect for you an all man, but how disrespectful. You just called a child a "consequence". And is that fair to the baby? To grow up as a "mistake"? Please, that kids life will be shit.


Sorry, this is a very touchy subject for me. My brother's considering aborting his child and I'm trying to convince him it's a mistake.

The child is a consequence. HOwever harsh that may sound, it's the truth. You gotta consider though, the majority of children in the world today are mistakes. My brother and I were both mistakes...we've turned out fine. I'm almost done with my Freshman year in college with 4 majors and 2 minors. My brother has 2 majors and 1 minor...also almost completed with his Freshman year of college. We've both lived great lives. Our parents were divorced and other bullshit like that happened. That happens all the time though. Our quality of life was no worse than a lot of other people out there. We've had our hardships, of course, who doesn't. However, a mistake has just a good a chance of leading a good life as does a planned child.

EDIT: My brother and his girlfriend....didn't sound right how I have it in the post.
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Old 01-26-04, 02:04 PM   #10
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If You Don't want a Kid, Wear a Helmet.
Im anti abortion as I mentioned in the other thread.
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Old 01-26-04, 02:57 PM   #11
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I Don't Worry About Abortion Cause All My Kids...Been Swallowed Or Spitted..Or Flushed Down The Toilet ....

But If It's A Rape Case I Think Abortion Should Be Done But Not For Unprotected Sex It's Your Choice 2 Not Put a Condom On
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Old 01-26-04, 03:28 PM   #12
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Concerning the argument that there are plenty of parents waiting to adopt these children, this unfortunately isn't true. 130,000 kids are adopted every year (40-50,000 of these by family members), while aprox. 1,300,000 are aborted. Since 1973 approx. 40 million abortions have taken place yet of the approx. 10 million women (ages 14 - 44) who have even considered adopting children only 2 million have actually sought adoption. Currently their are about 500,000 women seeking adoption.

I agree that far less people should seek abortion and that much more should be done to educate youth on protective sex. However, it's not as simple as making it illegal and letting people just give the child up for adoption. Even if you doubled the adoption rate your looking at 10 million orphans in the first 10 years. If you allow say $2000 per child for food and shelter each year then that equates to 20 billion dollars/year out of the budget.

Regardless, the fact is that some people are selfish irresponcible bastards who would rather spend their time and money voting on americal idol contestants than raising kids. Either a)you force these selfish irresponcible poeple to keep their kids (not a great solution in my opinion considering who we're talkin about), b) or you spend billions on orphanages, or c) you figure out how to make people more responcible and less selfish to begin with before making it illegal.

Making abortion illegal and spending money on orphanages is only a short-term quick fix in my opinion. It does not address the larger issue. Abortions have actually started to decline in recent years because of people who are working towards solution C. Which is what I agree with. Spend money now educating people in advance rather than on orphanages after the fact and we will be better off in the long-term.
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Old 01-26-04, 03:41 PM   #13
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Concerning the argument that there are plenty of parents waiting to adopt these children, this unfortunately isn't true. 130,000 kids are adopted every year (40-50,000 of these by family members), while aprox. 1,300,000 are aborted. Since 1973 approx. 40 million abortions have taken place yet of the approx. 10 million women (ages 14 - 44) who have even considered adopting children only 2 million have actually sought adoption. Currently their are about 500,000 women seeking adoption.

I agree that far less people should seek abortion and that much more should be done to educate youth on protective sex. However, it's not as simple as making it illegal and letting people just give the child up for adoption. Even if you doubled the adoption rate your looking at 10 million orphans in the first 10 years. If you allow say $2000 per child for food and shelter each year then that equates to 20 billion dollars/year out of the budget.

Regardless, the fact is that some people are selfish irresponcible bastards who would rather spend their time and money voting on americal idol contestants than raising kids. Either a)you force these selfish irresponcible poeple to keep their kids (not a great solution in my opinion considering who we're talkin about), b) or you spend billions on orphanages, or c) you figure out how to make people more responcible and less selfish to begin with before making it illegal.

Making abortion illegal and spending money on orphanages is only a short-term quick fix in my opinion. It does not address the larger issue. Abortions have actually started to decline in recent years because of people who are working towards solution C. Which is what I agree with. Spend money now educating people in advance rather than on orphanages after the fact and we will be better off in the long-term.


Very well put agreement. Fact is society needs to change before any legislation could benifit our society. I have been argueing this point in many forms, this is just another area where that logic applies. Education is the key to succefull implimentation of legislation. You can make and or change all the laws you want, but if the general public is not educated on the situation at hand, all you are doing is cleaning the books, not society...
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Yeah, but still. Being an orphan beats being aborted w/ no shot at all.
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Alot of People who are successful came from shitty childhoods. Gives them Motivation.
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