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View Poll Results: Who Do You Want To WIn THe Election
Bush 1 8.33%
Other guy [forgot his name] 6 50.00%
I don't give a damn 5 41.67%
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Old 04-16-04, 02:42 PM   #1
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Yeah' ..!!!!!!!! upppppppppppppin On 'Kerry' ..... He's Cool' I Would Like To See Him Win The Election
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Old 04-16-04, 02:55 PM   #2
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I would have to go with Who gives a fuck. I do not really care about the elections that take place. As long as No one get's elected and does something stupid i'm ight. FUCK BUSH. RE-elect Clinton.lol
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Old 04-16-04, 06:20 PM   #3
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damn in 17 cant even vote yet
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Old 04-27-04, 12:00 AM   #4
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tha only thang i know is i dont want anyone votin for bush cause of da way hes doin things in iraq.but since i dont live in da us,i dont exactly give a fuck.my vote:da otha guy
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Old 04-27-04, 09:57 AM   #5
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kerry just as bad or worse than bush, don't vote kerry cause bush sucks, just don't vote at all...if u lived here
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Old 04-27-04, 01:20 PM   #6
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I really d0nt give a damn who wins dat shyt....bush is an ass and so is da utha dude[whateva his name is] i think we would be better off without a president..and if we do get a president....i think we should see how i woman would run dat shyt lmaooooo....nvm kuz women be tripN when dey get on dem damn "." so chea we dont need a president unless its ME....VoTe C_R_E_A_M for president!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-27-04, 01:53 PM   #7
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Oh and I forgot the other part - greater social liberty. Except many are fairly conservative and thus pro-life.
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Old 04-28-04, 01:01 AM   #8
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Old 04-28-04, 02:28 AM   #9
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Yes, I am. I moderate a Politics Forum on an actual board. These people.. less so. Yes.
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Old 05-05-04, 12:47 PM   #10
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If you legalize drugs crime will decrease. Look at FBI records and it has shown that durring prohibition crime rate went up, then went back down to its lower level after the government got rid of it. When a black market exists for something in fairly high demand, prices shoot up and crime increases. Talk to anybody who is in a gang (the business side of it, not the retards that run around throwing up signs) and they can tell you this is true. When the drug prohibition started the crime rate went back up. Why would crack heads steal if they can buy crack for next to nothing if it was legalized? The main crimes commited due to the war on drugs are the possesion and selling of drugs. Legalize drugs and all these crimes dissapear. I don't think there will be any more crack heads out there if you legalize crack. Would you start doing crack if it was legal? Probably not, and neither will everyone else. We all know crack is bad. People that want the drug will get it either way, if it is legal or not, so why make it illegal?

Government may be for the people, but the national government is NOT meant to give handouts to the less fortunate. Local government is for this, which it does much better. Local government used to do this in the past. National government is there primarily to make sure the states don't get out of hand, to regulate state commerce and international commerce. I don't want the national government forcing me to give my money to people who may make less than me. If I want to help them, then I will on my own. If you think people who make less money than you should get some money, then you should give some of your own money to them...but would you do this since you think the less fortunate deserve better?
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Old 05-05-04, 03:15 PM   #12
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Oh and with the education...

Private education worked wonders years before the government ever got involved. Parents would teach their kids how to read and write, and the father would help giving the kid experience in the real world. Most attended private schools and some graduated high school. Many didn't go to college since this was and is not needed. Literacy rates were just as high or higher back then. Extended learning was done at libraries and things of the such and also through experience, apprenticeships. Some were sent to boarding schools.

College is not needed in most occupations today, but it is held in high regard because it is something that happens to be used as a benchmark. It seems weird that the more money the government pours into the schools...the worse they get. The schools teach you how wonderful government is and that the government has saved this country in the past, but who runs the schools? Ask how many people working at the mall have college degrees....a lot of them will, but do you need a college degree to sell shoes or jewelry? Many millionairs realized school was a waste of their time and they skipped it all and went on to make lots of money. Why should the government educate people when it already does a bad job at it. Why is education constantly an issue in politics? It is because the government gets more and more involved in it, screwing it up even more.
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Old 05-05-04, 03:17 PM   #13
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oh where is this politics site? i wanna join
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Old 05-05-04, 03:35 PM   #14
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yo forget what i said before.. I dont want Bush in office... I was messed up for thinking that... But these kids are too stupid to argue with us
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yo forget what i said before.. I dont want Bush in office... I was messed up for thinking that... But these kids are too stupid to argue with us


Nobody who knows anything about politics wants Bush in office.

And Dren: Yes, I know crime will go down when the war on drugs is over, which is why I said it was absurd. It's one of the things I agree with Libertarians about, but that is only because they end up being pretty liberal about social issues, which I am as well. It's on economic issues that I think Libertarians are in error.

wrt to private education, the world is a different place than it was when home schooling was more popular. And frankly, I think you are viewing the past in too nice a light. Private education means that lower class people end up stuck in the lower class, because their parents lack the education to teach the younger generation. Now this isn't so much a problem if you are ok with having agrarian communities continue to be agrarian (although I don't think this is particularly fair...), but when you have inner city ghettos, or Native American reserves, which are probably even worse, it becomes more of an issue. People living in these areas generally lack access to education, and privatizing it would only make this worse.

Of course, the question comes down to what you really think the government should do. I personally feel everyone should have access to a few basic things in life, those being food, shelter, health and education. Privatizing any of these completely doesn't seem too conducive to acheiving this goal, so I oppose it.

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