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Old 06-29-05, 08:17 AM   #1
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You always gotta start with the shitty offers before you get the big ones..

Thats another reason he wont make it.. Hes got a big net ego and thinks he only deserves big time deals when he should take his head out of the clouds and realise that he aint even got a cd on the shelf and hes been rapping since before 96.. I aint hating, I like his music but just cause you top internet charts dont mean people are gonna instantly want your music on tv.. He needs to sign to a shitty deal, get a cd on the shelf and then rape the fucking lable untill he gets enough REAL LIFE promotion to get offered a better deal, nobodys gonna mother this dude into fame with a big contract from the get go no matter how dope he is on track.. Maybe the amount of amphetamines he eats has gotton to his head a bit..


That's a misconception. You don't have to take shitty deals... Not if you have a huge following and you work hard building up your fan-base before you go to these labels. It's not about skill, to them, it's about them spending money on something that potentially will (or will not) sell. It's way more complex than "Oh, you're dope at rapping, go sign a shitty deal and work your way up." There are much more intelligent ways to go about that.

3 years ago, you might be right about the internet charts not making a difference, but now, majors are really starting to realize the power of the 'net. Believe me, I've sat in plenty of meetings where we've discussed this at great length. The Internet is "real life" promotion. I've collected 10,000+ emails of people who want a CD, since 2002. That's "real life" money. I haven't spent a dime to promote my name, besides the 10$ per month that I pay soundclick.

Just because you hear some rumors and listen to my songs, try not to assume all this weird shit about me. You don't know my siutation based off my lyrics and my "image" -- and what you think you know about major labels. Just get it from my mouth, it'll be a lot more accurate.

The truth is, yeah, I started getting involved in rap around 1996 -- but between 1996-2001 - I probably rapped about 20 songs (which were covers of other peoples music). I didn't get serious until 2002. I didn't even make a song until 2002. Since then, I've made over 300. I'm practicing, I'm developing. I'm not that good yet, yo, I'm nowhere NEAR the level I want to be at.

Plus, I'm not ready to throw my life into the complete and utter chaos that is "fame." I'm happy right now, I'm enjoying my small-scale internet success, I'm building a fanbase and a business plan. I'm networking with a lot of folks and when the time is right, I will take it to the next level.
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Old 06-29-05, 09:11 AM   #2
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That's a misconception. You don't have to take shitty deals... Not if you have a huge following and you work hard building up your fan-base before you go to these labels. It's not about skill, to them, it's about them spending money on something that potentially will (or will not) sell. It's way more complex than "Oh, you're dope at rapping, go sign a shitty deal and work your way up." There are much more intelligent ways to go about that.

3 years ago, you might be right about the internet charts not making a difference, but now, majors are really starting to realize the power of the 'net. Believe me, I've sat in plenty of meetings where we've discussed this at great length. The Internet is "real life" promotion. I've collected 10,000+ emails of people who want a CD, since 2002. That's "real life" money. I haven't spent a dime to promote my name, besides the 10$ per month that I pay soundclick.

Just because you hear some rumors and listen to my songs, try not to assume all this weird shit about me. You don't know my siutation based off my lyrics and my "image" -- and what you think you know about major labels. Just get it from my mouth, it'll be a lot more accurate.

The truth is, yeah, I started getting involved in rap around 1996 -- but between 1996-2001 - I probably rapped about 20 songs (which were covers of other peoples music). I didn't get serious until 2002. I didn't even make a song until 2002. Since then, I've made over 300. I'm practicing, I'm developing. I'm not that good yet, yo, I'm nowhere NEAR the level I want to be at.

Plus, I'm not ready to throw my life into the complete and utter chaos that is "fame." I'm happy right now, I'm enjoying my small-scale internet success, I'm building a fanbase and a business plan. I'm networking with a lot of folks and when the time is right, I will take it to the next level.


Dude the net will only go so far promotion wise, I mean sure by all means use it as a marketing tool.. Its cheap and easy.. But your stuff wont ever be the hottest shit on the streets when its only being advertised on the internet.. I respect that you say your not ready for fame but sitting on the net collecting fan emails waiting to be offered the perfect deal? Thats not how to make it big in the rap industry believe me..

Its now 2005.. You been serious about rapping for 3 years, youve got the ability to make music that will sell cd's.. I think it might be time for you to stop hiding behind the little "im not ready for fame' thing and start putting some serious work in.. And that means actually spending money in real life promoting your shit.. But yeah, you say your working on a business plan.. Good luck with that, hopefully you have already thought of the shit I'm talking about..
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Old 07-03-05, 01:39 AM   #3
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That's a misconception. You don't have to take shitty deals... Not if you have a huge following and you work hard building up your fan-base before you go to these labels. It's not about skill, to them, it's about them spending money on something that potentially will (or will not) sell. It's way more complex than "Oh, you're dope at rapping, go sign a shitty deal and work your way up." There are much more intelligent ways to go about that.

3 years ago, you might be right about the internet charts not making a difference, but now, majors are really starting to realize the power of the 'net. Believe me, I've sat in plenty of meetings where we've discussed this at great length. The Internet is "real life" promotion. I've collected 10,000+ emails of people who want a CD, since 2002. That's "real life" money. I haven't spent a dime to promote my name, besides the 10$ per month that I pay soundclick.

Just because you hear some rumors and listen to my songs, try not to assume all this weird shit about me. You don't know my siutation based off my lyrics and my "image" -- and what you think you know about major labels. Just get it from my mouth, it'll be a lot more accurate.

The truth is, yeah, I started getting involved in rap around 1996 -- but between 1996-2001 - I probably rapped about 20 songs (which were covers of other peoples music). I didn't get serious until 2002. I didn't even make a song until 2002. Since then, I've made over 300. I'm practicing, I'm developing. I'm not that good yet, yo, I'm nowhere NEAR the level I want to be at.

Plus, I'm not ready to throw my life into the complete and utter chaos that is "fame." I'm happy right now, I'm enjoying my small-scale internet success, I'm building a fanbase and a business plan. I'm networking with a lot of folks and when the time is right, I will take it to the next level.



word, some deep shit man..keep doin ya thang and fuck the haters! haha

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Old 06-28-05, 05:31 PM   #4
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Old 06-28-05, 07:34 PM   #5
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Yea Invektive Owned Omen Haha..

I Mean If I Was DZK I Woulda Took The Deals..I Would Love To Get An Offer To A Contract.

As For What Someone Said About Trying To Market Him....Your Right...He Would Be Really Hard To Market...but Who Cares..I Would Buy His Album Just For His Music. Its Sick.

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Old 06-28-05, 07:48 PM   #6
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Old 06-28-05, 11:29 PM   #7
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nos, you get any offers yet?
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Old 06-28-05, 11:50 PM   #8
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Me n omb working on our groups first promo mixtape..

Were only in early stages of building a fan base..
So nothing yet.. But I recon we got what it takes..
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Old 06-28-05, 11:50 PM   #9
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yeah, you guys know what you are doing, have creative, intelligent lyrics....

whats the group called?
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Old 06-28-05, 11:54 PM   #10
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Dopium.

Word up..
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Old 06-28-05, 11:56 PM   #11
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definately....get your shit out there.

and make sure you send samples of your mixtape to red bull....so he can send them to me
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Old 06-29-05, 01:48 AM   #12
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Your Guys Are All Pathetic and Take Shit All The Wrong Way and Flip It Around To Make It Look Bad..

First Off To Socrates, Post The Link Up On RM About Me So-Called "Begging" DZK To Collab With Me. I Didn't Beg and DZK Never Said No, Just Chrit and His D/R Came In and Started Shit....Then I KO'd Chrit In Audio and Never Came Back To RM.

Second Off..To Nos...I Wasn't Gonna Just Drive Down There. I Was Gonna Talk To DZK Online, Give Him Some Propositions About Shit, and See If He Wanted To Do Some Shit.

So Everyone...Get Off My Nutz For Real.

Realize The Way You Try To Flip Shit and Make It Percieve Perverted/Dumb Against Someone Else Is Immature..

And I Can Rap Just As Good As DZK..I've Rapped His Songs Perfectly...I Just Can't Write As Good To A Track As Him.

Thats What I Need His Help For...I Have The Lyrics and Shit, but I Need Help With The Whole Flow/Writing...The Way He Does It.

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Old 06-29-05, 02:10 AM   #13
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Your Guys Are All Pathetic and Take Shit All The Wrong Way and Flip It Around To Make It Look Bad..

First Off To Socrates, Post The Link Up On RM About Me So-Called "Begging" DZK To Collab With Me. I Didn't Beg and DZK Never Said No, Just Chrit and His D/R Came In and Started Shit....Then I KO'd Chrit In Audio and Never Came Back To RM.

Second Off..To Nos...I Wasn't Gonna Just Drive Down There. I Was Gonna Talk To DZK Online, Give Him Some Propositions About Shit, and See If He Wanted To Do Some Shit.

So Everyone...Get Off My Nutz For Real.

Realize The Way You Try To Flip Shit and Make It Percieve Perverted/Dumb Against Someone Else Is Immature..

And I Can Rap Just As Good As DZK..I've Rapped His Songs Perfectly...I Just Can't Write As Good To A Track As Him.

Thats What I Need His Help For...I Have The Lyrics and Shit, but I Need Help With The Whole Flow/Writing...The Way He Does It.

~R~




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Old 06-29-05, 03:23 AM   #14
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Your Guys Are All Pathetic and Take Shit All The Wrong Way and Flip It Around To Make It Look Bad..

First Off To Socrates, Post The Link Up On RM About Me So-Called "Begging" DZK To Collab With Me. I Didn't Beg and DZK Never Said No, Just Chrit and His D/R Came In and Started Shit....Then I KO'd Chrit In Audio and Never Came Back To RM.

Second Off..To Nos...I Wasn't Gonna Just Drive Down There. I Was Gonna Talk To DZK Online, Give Him Some Propositions About Shit, and See If He Wanted To Do Some Shit.

So Everyone...Get Off My Nutz For Real.

Realize The Way You Try To Flip Shit and Make It Percieve Perverted/Dumb Against Someone Else Is Immature..

And I Can Rap Just As Good As DZK..I've Rapped His Songs Perfectly...I Just Can't Write As Good To A Track As Him.

Thats What I Need His Help For...I Have The Lyrics and Shit, but I Need Help With The Whole Flow/Writing...The Way He Does It.

~R~


LOL I can flow to tonedeff and jedi mind tricks shit.. Or just about any other rapper out there.. That means nothing.. Dont ever focus on being like another rapper.. Focus on being origional and having a style that will appeal to people.. You dont want to learn how to be a dzk copy with the same flow..

W/e little plan you have to bag a bit of respect by hanging off dzk's penis for tracks and flow lessons.. Scrap them, its a mindframe thing, you dont need anyones help to get to that level, you need time, persistance and a passion for elevation..

Anyone can be as good or better than dzk his level aint un reachable by any means..

But remember hes been rapping for 10 years or so.. Youve been rapping for what.... 1 and a half? I been writing rhymes for like 4 years and rapping for 1 and I recon by the time I been going for even 4 years I'll be on that level or better.. But whats more is I know by then I will of put cd's out..
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Old 06-30-05, 09:48 PM   #15
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Have You ever looked at your posts...and thought to yourself....maybe YOUR the groupie?.....

and considering that i see you post up after every song DZK posts at RM....i think im leaning towards you being the groupie....

i mean....

your buying the guy aderal so he'll do 2 verses on your mixtape....seriously


Lol omg that’s harsh…

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Second Off..To Nos...I Wasn't Gonna Just Drive Down There. I Was Gonna Talk To DZK Online, Give Him Some Propositions About Shit, and See If He Wanted To Do Some Shit.

And I Can Rap Just As Good As DZK..I've Rapped His Songs Perfectly...I Just Can't Write As Good To A Track As Him.

Thats What I Need His Help For...I Have The Lyrics and Shit, but I Need Help With The Whole Flow/Writing…The Way He Does It.

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Uhm R Rated.. You notice how many people rehearse Jay Z, Biggie, TuPac and Nas lyrics but they aren’t rappers.. ANYBODY can memorize a song EXACTLY the way another person has performed it, that does NOT make them talented.. Just proves they are a fan of that person… your lyrics and his flow won’t mix. For one, you tend to rush a lotta lines, I know this, cuz I have done it before… you have to fix your flaws before you try to be “like” anyone else. And on that note, why would you want to be like someone else.. And I didn’t flip your words, you said “The Way He Does It.” Do it yourself, work harder at fixing your errors yourself because you are not helpless, it can be done. If you really want to do it, then you’ll keep working at it..

And you have been recording longer than 4 months, cuz you been recording longer than I have been, but concentrate on making your flow sound smooth, then worry bout everything else..

I ain’t hating I’m just saying by experience, I learned by freestyle battling and writing as well.. It’s possible so try doing it yourself, you don’t need your favorite netcee to help you. The next people to post can say wow she owned you, but I didn‘t. I‘m just telling you on a real tip, what‘s up..
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