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Old 08-12-05, 04:54 AM   #1
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Stole your point of view? Nope.. Thats my own opinions..
But dude, everyone has a reason to be religious.. But I agree with you though, I hate fuckwhits who think they have a right to argue about religion when they havnt even looked past the one they follow. But the world is full of dense people who pretend they arnt, thats the reason most religion sounds so full of nonsense to you. Try and change it.


Not most religion... Just some.
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Old 08-05-05, 05:50 AM   #2
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I believe in God because of what I experienced at a church camp recently. I think that until you actually experience it, you will question Christianity forever. I used to question God all the time. But once I left that camp, my views have changed a lot. I know this may not seem like much to you. But I think until you experience it, you will never understand it.
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Old 08-05-05, 10:23 AM   #3
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if u didnt believe in god before, why were u at a church camp?
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Old 08-05-05, 06:16 PM   #4
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if u didnt believe in god before, why were u at a church camp?



someone invited me there. so i figured i'd go to see why they so strongly believe in God
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Old 08-05-05, 04:38 PM   #5
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but accountable is based on those who have heard


see, now i dont like that statement.....because all your basing your whole faith off of, is what someone else heard, from someone else......going down eons, nah mean?

like, what if back in the day, someone just sat down one day, and made all this up, i know i know, you're gunna come at me with "you just gotta believe"....well thats all opinion you're basing decisions off of now, not faith........so basically, when you think about it, religion is all personal choice, there shouldn't be a right or wrong.....there shouldn't be anything manipulating our brains and manifesting the way we percieve the world

but basically, how i like to think is......live your own life, believe in what you want to believe....but don't have regrets

i believe there is a god, and that there might be a heaven, for when i die, i can continue to live happily....but worrying about that shit now will only strain you from what you can accomplish with your life, may even hold you back from your true potential....whatever, this is a never ending argument, one of the many in the world.....

keep up to those have their own opinions, word.

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God loves every living thing and his grace is so immense it cannot even be imagined, he lets us live how we want
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lets us live how we want, yet we have people changing their whole lives, abandoning previous dreams and ambitions, all for him, not even having sound proof he even truly exists......right, thats letting people live for themselves, lmlo!

word to OMB

and to reflekt....i've experienced god, been to bible camps and shit, but you gotta experience the rest of the world too, like, seriously, i've seen christianity used for a lot of people just as an escape from their previous lives, because it was so hard, so they turn to the bible and its followers, because "there are no hardships when you walk with god".....

word, keep up.
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Old 08-05-05, 06:38 PM   #6
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and what exactly happened there to make you believe?

im still callin out denied truth, he can read my 2nd post on page 2 if he missed my offer
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Old 08-06-05, 03:55 AM   #7
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Old 08-07-05, 05:48 AM   #8
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No one has replied to mine yet... I need a rebutel -_-
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Old 08-10-05, 09:03 PM   #9
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I think religion, more or less christianity was created for the frightened people who needed to believe in something, and if you really study it, most of the claims are contradicting and do not make sense, however, i am not starting beef,i am just stating an opinion. And i agree with what OMB stated, and i don't agree in the concept of following a religion to find purpose, our purposes, i would hope, are our everyday choices we make, our mistakes, actions and feelings...as individuals..not being robots to some "guy" in the sky, just another ploy to make us afraid to be truly US.
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What ones are you into?
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Old 08-12-05, 11:49 PM   #11
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What ones are you into?


Well I sort of believe in a combination of a few religions... Because you never really know if religions are bullshit or not. Like Christian Catholics beliefs might have been changed and shit in medieval times when the church was being gay... Buddhism has branched into a few different factions.. The Anglicans were just made cos some king wanted a divorce.. All the different Muslim factions are at war..

Every religion has its bullshit. The best way to figure shit out is to study the info on your own and develop your own beliefs...
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Well I sort of believe in a combination of a few religions... Because you never really know if religions are bullshit or not. Like Christian Catholics beliefs might have been changed and shit in medieval times when the church was being gay... Buddhism has branched into a few different factions.. The Anglicans were just made cos some king wanted a divorce.. All the different Muslim factions are at war..

Every religion has its bullshit. The best way to figure shit out is to study the info on your own and develop your own beliefs...


Thats partly what I'm saying with religion being a translation from a bigger message, a lot of religion's charactoristics I find irrelevant because a lot of religious texts were also written specific to their time period, but I think that there is truth behind most of them in one way or another.. Christianity is basically the only sect other than islam that I'm knowledgable about.. The main religions that I study are Christianity, Islam and Hinduism.. Buddhism is just a sect of hinduism..

More or less I see sect's as man made versions, but the reason I follow Christianity is because Judists are stupid.. Jesus basically fit all their prophecys for the mesiah and they still believe he wasnt who he claimed to be. Go figure..

But yo, I'm glad you got good views on religion man.. Wouldnt wanna be in a group with a dumb cunt.. I got some pretty big theorys on things like the meaning of life I'll have to share with you some time..
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Old 08-13-05, 04:15 AM   #13
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Thats partly what I'm saying with religion being a translation from a bigger message, a lot of religion's charactoristics I find irrelevant because a lot of religious texts were also written specific to their time period, but I think that there is truth behind most of them in one way or another.. Christianity is basically the only sect other than islam that I'm knowledgable about.. The main religions that I study are Christianity, Islam and Hinduism.. Buddhism is just a sect of hinduism..

More or less I see sect's as man made versions, but the reason I follow Christianity is because Judists are stupid.. Jesus basically fit all their prophecys for the mesiah and they still believe he wasnt who he claimed to be. Go figure..

But yo, I'm glad you got good views on religion man.. Wouldnt wanna be in a group with a dumb cunt.. I got some pretty big theorys on things like the meaning of life I'll have to share with you some time..


You should look into Buddhism a bit. You can't dismiss it just because the dude that started it was a Hindu before he made it. Basically what happened was Siddharta Guatama saw problems with the way Hinduism worked, and tried to find shit out for himself. And out of all the religions I reckon Buddhism makes the most sense... I'm not about to become a Buddhist though. Make sure you read up about the original sect of buddhism though... The other ones are just dudes who thought Guatama was a God.. The only thing about it that doesnt make sense to me is reincarnation... I can't quite get my mind around it.

But re-incarnation makes more sense than eternal life anyday. Think about it... Theres no evidence anywhere, ever of an eternal place or dead spirits living happily/in torment forever. But life ends and begins all the time. I just don't get the process of it.

And yeah Judaism is pretty gay... Islam is alright.
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You should look into Buddhism a bit. You can't dismiss it just because the dude that started it was a Hindu before he made it. Basically what happened was Siddharta Guatama saw problems with the way Hinduism worked, and tried to find shit out for himself. And out of all the religions I reckon Buddhism makes the most sense... I'm not about to become a Buddhist though. Make sure you read up about the original sect of buddhism though... The other ones are just dudes who thought Guatama was a God..
I'll have to look into it.. I'm sure a lot of flaws are more to do with the hindu way of life and traditions. The only thing I dont understand though, is that hinduism is based on eternal learning and they actually encourage development of their religion. Siddharta must have had some pretty downright conflicting views to have had to start a new sect of hinduism for his purpose.

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The only thing about it that doesnt make sense to me is reincarnation... I can't quite get my mind around it.

But re-incarnation makes more sense than eternal life anyday. Think about it... Theres no evidence anywhere, ever of an eternal place or dead spirits living happily/in torment forever. But life ends and begins all the time. I just don't get the process of it.

And yeah Judaism is pretty gay... Islam is alright.
I can explain this. One of my theorys draws together both sides of this argument and makes use of aspects of astrology aswell. My way of peicing together reincarnation refers to life as a forever learning concience, I believe our concience begins in the most simple of organisms and as one organism dies, our concience is reborn in a more complex form, I believe the stage before human form, is an animal form and star signs play a big role in determining this. How far down the chain we are in this process I've yet to find an answer for, but I have started working out what the next stage is. Hindu's & most likly buddhist's would agree with this, however they believe that your just reborn randomly and being born a human is a gift, that theory is automatically flawed as the human population continues to grow. But mine stays intact, see I believe the next stage is not part of this world or time, and also beyond our dimentional constraints. Therefore, these dead spirits you talk of, wouldnt think of time the way we do, and eternity would be within their comprehension.

Its a lot to get your head around, and I plan on writing a book on my theorys later in my life. What I've said here doesent even begin to go into the complexity of this theory. But I've yet to find any major anomolys, and any minor flaws I have found have extremily plausable explenations.

But like I said man, I'll share my theorys with you later when we got time. Islam is also a very close minded religion. But they have their own customs and belief's which you have to respect.
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