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Old 08-26-05, 06:18 PM   #1
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DUH...why do you think they worded it that way...cuz if most students think like u, they define defense as "fight back"...FIghting back is not defense...

retaliation is obvious...they're sayin defense because that's apparently how you all define it...as retaliate...

if someone starts to hit on me...my instincts initially would be to swing back...but most times, there are so many people around to break up a fight, that you EASILY, EASILY have the option of jus protecting ur face by putting ya hands up and hopin whoever it is doesn't beat da ugly off u...

If that person had a gun, wud u "fight back with a gun"...or wud u duck and dodge and do whats necessary to "protect" yaself...Exactly...Pride will get u NO WHERE in life....jus like it got that kid who pushed me in da face NO WHERE...he thought he was being "cool"...he's DEAD.


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No thats me personally... If someone attacks me, or punches me or whatever, even if they run away, I'm still gonna run them down and beat their ass... But not everyone is like that... They say you can't defend yourself and the best excuss you can come up with is that all kids define defense as retaliation... I know defense, I know retaliation, and defense is against the rules... No matter what you say, it's bullshit...
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Old 08-26-05, 06:20 PM   #2
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No thats me personally... If someone attacks me, or punches me or whatever, even if they run away, I'm still gonna run them down and beat their ass... But not everyone is like that... They say you can't defend yourself and the best excuss you can come up with is that all kids define defense as retaliation... I know defense, I know retaliation, and defense is against the rules... No matter what you say, it's bullshit...



if someone smacks u in the face then walks away...and u do nothing, I guarantee u won't be suspended...

swallow ur pride dawg...they punched, kicked, and spat on CHrist...and he was God...u don't think he cudda snapped his finger and sent every atom in their body into implosion?...c'mon

u gotta look at the bigger picture...and when u get to college, IF you get to college, there is no EXCUSE...If u fight, they kick yo ass out and KEEP yo money...there is no..."well, he was doin this...and then I...

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Old 08-26-05, 06:11 PM   #3
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Old 08-26-05, 06:21 PM   #4
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yeah this rule was already in effect last year when i was a senior in high school.. in my county its policy that pretty much if theres a fight at school or at a school event then at least 2 kids are getting suspended.... but there are some exceptions and im sure there still will be at ur school, like my boy Marcus lol dude is crazy funny, but hes real focused or "fly and focused" as he puts it, straight A student trynna go to college and shit like Q was talkina bout, and this dude walked up behind him on the way to the buses and busted him in the back of the head b/c of somethin he supposedly said to his girl, and Marcus, lmao the crazy mofo said the first thing that came to his head when he felt that punch was "college".... so he didnt hit him back or nothin and the fight eventually got broken up and Marcus was at school the next day.. so there are some exceptions and shit if the administration knows you're straight wit your shit....
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Old 08-26-05, 06:23 PM   #5
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yeah this rule was already in effect last year when i was a senior in high school.. in my county its policy that pretty much if theres a fight at school or at a school event then at least 2 kids are getting suspended.... but there are some exceptions and im sure there still will be at ur school, like my boy Marcus lol dude is crazy funny, but hes real focused or "fly and focused" and he puts it, straight A student trynna go to college and shit like Q was talkina bout, and this dude walked up behind him on the way to the buses and busted him in the back of the head b/c of somethin he supposedly said to his girl, and Marcus, lmao the crazy mofo said the first thing that came to his head when he felt that punch was "college".... so he didnt hit him back or nothin and the fight eventually got broken up and Marcus was at school the next day.. so there are some exceptions and shit if the administration knows you're straight wit your shit....



exactly Bro...

jus like me now...I'm in my 20s...I'll be damned if Imma let some Ignant, Dumb ass, son-of-a-bitch take away everything I've worked for...

Im college educated...and some prick approaches me cuz I "cut him off" in traffic and wants to fight me...

hmmmm...lemme think...am I gonna say "FUCK U NIGGA, I AINT CUT U OFF" and scrap"

or

am I gonna say "Oh damn, my bad dawg...I ain't even see u 4 real"


^^^^^I keep my job...possibly my life and freedom...and I swallow my pride.


fighting is pointless...and 90% of the time can be avoided
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Old 08-26-05, 06:27 PM   #6
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exactly Bro...

jus like me now...I'm in my 20s...I'll be damned if Imma let some Ignant, Dumb ass, son-of-a-bitch take away everything I've worked for...

Im college educated...and some prick approaches me cuz I "cut him off" in traffic and wants to fight me...

hmmmm...lemme think...am I gonna say "FUCK U NIGGA, I AINT CUT U OFF" and scrap"

or

am I gonna say "Oh damn, my bad dawg...I ain't even see u 4 real"


^^^^^I keep my job...possibly my life and freedom...and I swallow my pride.


fighting is pointless...and 90% of the time can be avoided

word....
im real unconfrontational myself..
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Old 08-26-05, 06:29 PM   #7
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exactly Bro...

jus like me now...I'm in my 20s...I'll be damned if Imma let some Ignant, Dumb ass, son-of-a-bitch take away everything I've worked for...

Im college educated...and some prick approaches me cuz I "cut him off" in traffic and wants to fight me...

hmmmm...lemme think...am I gonna say "FUCK U NIGGA, I AINT CUT U OFF" and scrap"

or

am I gonna say "Oh damn, my bad dawg...I ain't even see u 4 real"


^^^^^I keep my job...possibly my life and freedom...and I swallow my pride.


fighting is pointless...and 90% of the time can be avoided


But you didn't get hit... If you said, "FUCK U NIGGA, I AINT CUT U OFF", thats different... But if you said, "Oh damn, my bad dawg...I ain't even see u 4 real", and he still comes at you and starts punching you, what do you do?
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Old 08-26-05, 06:32 PM   #8
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But you didn't get hit... If you said, "FUCK U NIGGA, I AINT CUT U OFF", thats different... But if you said, "Oh damn, my bad dawg...I ain't even see u 4 real", and he still comes at you and starts punching you, what do you do?



I defend myself...with the goal being of stopping him from touching/hitting my person...

once I've successfully done that, then it's over...

I can press charges because he assaulted me...

I never said defending yourself was wrong...

I said in school they are justified because usually, there has been some type of escalation to that point and they can't always determine who truly "started it"...

Plus..fighting has no place in schools...think about it...people who have reputations for violence attract that


it's that simple
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Old 08-26-05, 06:33 PM   #9
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I defend myself...with the goal being of stopping him from touching/hitting my person...

once I've successfully done that, then it's over...

I can press charges because he assaulted me...

I never said defending yourself was wrong...

I said in school they are justified because usually, there has been some type of escalation to that point and they can't always determine who truly "started it"...

Plus..fighting has no place in schools...think about it...people who have reputations for violence attract that


it's that simple


Usually doesn't mean shit dawg, there is always exceptions.
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Old 08-26-05, 06:36 PM   #10
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i agree wit tha q simply becuz its the most logical...
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Old 08-26-05, 06:37 PM   #11
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I dont know where yall live but no one just fights with fists nowaday. I aint gonna go to the hospital jus cause a school says its thr right thing to do.

Since when do 40 year old teachers know whats best for TEENS in the world we live in today?

Ill talk my way out of a fight as much as possible but if theres a punch thrown Ima make sure I WALK away from the 'confrontation'.
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Old 08-26-05, 06:39 PM   #12
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I dont know where yall live but no one just fights with fists nowaday. I aint gonna go to the hospital jus cause a school says its thr right thing to do.

Since when do 40 year old teachers know whats best for TEENS in the world we live in today?

Ill talk my way out of a fight as much as possible but if theres a punch thrown Ima make sure I WALK away from the 'confrontation'.



WHY ARE U FIGHTING is my question?


Do you fight when someone SAYS something to you?

If that's the case, then I can't agree with you, sorry. You jus need to swallow ur pride and get over it.


Or...are you saying you fight when someone physically violates your personal space?
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WHY ARE U FIGHTING is my question?


Do you fight when someone SAYS something to you?

If that's the case, then I can't agree with you, sorry. You jus need to swallow ur pride and get over it.


Or...are you saying you fight when someone physically violates your personal space?

Thas what Im sayin.. if someone says shit to me, I always walk away. But if they hit me? Thats a different story..

And fuck a metal detector, the Gym carries bats in the equipment room... theres always weapons, no matter where you are, Ive seen a kid take off his belt a whip a kid with his buckle, cut the guys face from his mouth to his ear.. an that fight was cause a he bumped his girlfriend.
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I dont know where yall live but no one just fights with fists nowaday. I aint gonna go to the hospital jus cause a school says its thr right thing to do.

Since when do 40 year old teachers know whats best for TEENS in the world we live in today?

Ill talk my way out of a fight as much as possible but if theres a punch thrown Ima make sure I WALK away from the 'confrontation'.



Like I said...if you live in a "bad" neighborhood....then the skools should have metal detectors n scanners at the entrance.So the only way fights would go down on skool grounds is with the use of fists.

Now if you get called to a fight by someone with a weapon....it should be off-skool gorunds...and if you defend yourself..skool can't do shit..as it's off skool grounds.
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Been a few people who I've wanted to hit, but you can't get in college with a fight on your record, or if you do you have to have a really good reason.

It's a stupid rule, but I guess in some ways it should stop fights, but what you should do is just block their punches or just immobilize them. It's easier then you think. Most people , if they have a knife or something, just thrust to try and stab you. Just take their arm and throw them down and put it behind their back and get the knife.

If it's a fist fight, just dodge the punches or get them in a full nelson or something.
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