here is my comment from the other thread

ok i read most of this thread.

first of all, i never actually said you was racist red bull, i called you on your choice of words.

what tha q is saying is..... put yourself in this situation.... u see a black man n think hes ugly and said "hes an ugly nigger" and then another black man heard u, and called u on it, and you said "but, but ,but i only called him in particular a nigger,i wasnt saying all blacks are niggers" do you honestly think your walking away with ur head on ur body??? i mean honestly???

the same applies here

monkey and ape are terms that are to this day still used to insult BLACK PEOPLE.... now u turn round and say "damn that black girl looks like a monkey or an ape" n a black dude heard u n called u on it, do u think u will get away with "but i was only calling her monkey-like, not all black people" do u honestly think he is going to let u live after u just used a word that is used to degrade people by racists to describe how ugly you think a black woman is????

they are both exactly the same, actually a black person, monkey is just as bad as calling them nigger, simply because of its history and the fact it is still used today to insult black people..... how would u feel if u was black, and people called u, ur family n friends e.t.c monkeys because they are racist n wanna insult u, and then u hear sum1 say "damn that black girl looks like a monkey".... do u honestly beleive you would shrug it off n not be offended???? i know damn well that i wouldnt.

me being white if i heard a white man say sumthin bout a black person lookin like a monkey, be it a joke or not, i would still lay them out, plain n simple...... all we saying is watch ur choice of words.... ive learned from experiences, in a heated argument once, i didnt realise id said it, but the kid was actin like a fuckin clown n pissin me, so i said he shud get a job as a circus monkey(basically talkin bout his personality) but didnt realise how it sounded to a group of black people that was there with him, n got stomped out.... it offends people, you might not intend it to offend people like that, you might find it pathetic or whatever, but you have to realise, they have their reasons for it, and quite rightly so, so just be carefull with ur choice of words is all we saying.

^oh and btw
not all white people are white cracker ass honkey pink toe bastards.
Just you

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not all white people are white huh?

and I am white...i am a cracker...i can be an ass...im not a honkey i don't think..i think that means like country boy..and i'm def not....me being older than you means i've lived in the city longer than you.... ......but thankyou..i needed that reitterated..because i wasn't sure if i was white or not

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you live in "Eugene Oregon"
that is NOT "the city" its "a city"
its a difference.
and I didnt even know Oregon HAD rappers
wow.
I bet you just like that one guy from "White Boys"

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this was blown way outta proportion

if racism is such a horrible thing, and most people would like to see it eliminated all together, but for some reason its the first argument to rise in a conversation when someone doesn't approve

im not just defending red bull cause were friends, but if he wanted to be racist, im sure there are other terms he could have used

if you want to accuse someone of a racist comment, 9 times outta 10 it will be falsely presumed, because all that was said was "she looks like an ape", he was being specific to her details; there were like 5 other black women posted up before her, and he didn't call them apes.

shit has to be taken into context alot more, or else almost everyone on this board is a racist, according to descriptions in this thread and others

yeah, im done, i just felt like typing something because i was having a little fun going back and forth in that thread till leady started freaking out like a bitch

but i realize some people are sensitive with such topics as this because of experience...and i can understand conflict, not so much the kind others endure, but im its not like im ignorant everywhere else but my own town.....but really, if you keep bringing up what happened 1000 or whatever years ago, how is anything now a days suppose to change? stop being so provocative.....

but yes, i do agree, there are alot of ignorant people on this site, which need to be shot

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your right..i've lived here in eugene for 6 months..before that..portland....before that....d.c...before that...atlanta....and my mom moved back to atlanta after i moved to portland..i was back and forth........you didn't know oregon had rappers..but i had an idea you were ignorant...and....now i know you are...by the way...you can make fun of me..but you've already admitted i'm dope many many times




btw..

im not a rapper

i'm a writer

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I sware everytime a racism arugment starts a white dude always pisses me off. ALWAYS.

if I'm the white dude that pisses you off..your welcome..this isn't even an argument...it's about something that was said that was manipulated to sound worse than it was...thats been proven

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Well you said saying black people look like apes was justified =/ don't even try to deny that.

lmao....


another manipulated comment


when will it end

no..i never said saying black people look like apes was justified

i said it wasn't racist..i personally don't believe in making fun of someone who is homely..because it's not something they can help...

and I never said saying black people look like apes is okay..in the sense of...they all look like apes....i said if the circumstance comes..where they have the right figure, and features...than it's possible to look like an ape...and to say they look like an ape is not racist..it's not saying anymore than hey....you actually do...look like an ape...it's not because all black people do..it's because YOU DO....the majority of black people do not look like apes...but the combination of skin color, features, and figure can...at times...resemble an ape...theres no getting around that..you can call it racist if you want...but it's not...it's just a coincidental combination of things that make you look like something..that says nothing about you as a person whatsoever.....im not racist by any means...but I HATE how minorities make there struggles harder than they have to be...and than blame others for it...and don't even try to say i feel that way because i'm white...ask shihan...he'll tell you...."i'm tired of people acting like racism doesn't exist anymore, but i'm tired of us using it as an excuse"

a comment that was not racist..was manipulated to be racist...and now all of a sudden...racism is more popular than it was before...by doing that....you make one more racist in the world...which makes it harder on you and your people...the worst part is..he's not even racist

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if you actually read my post I said red isnt racist it was just a coincidense.

your a fucking idiot...and are starting to show signs of dyslexia

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You see that shit? You grouped minorities into one group like white people are superior. Well newsflash we're not minoritys in the world just this country. Don't even tell me that I make problems worse then anything cause I'm my own man if you can't get that through your head. Don't group me with NOBODY. I'm not usually on this net thug Bull shit but I sware to god I would fuck you up if I saw you right now. You a good rapper, but now I see exactly what you think. This shit pisses me off cause I spend so much time defending you people that I was blind to see you all are doing the same thing. So you know what? White people look like abomodable snowman. No its not a minipulated comment. I said you said its justified to say that. Then you said you didnt say that and then said "alot of them do in fact look like apes". So wtf? Are you trying to be politcally correct or are you being honest. I'm gettin sick of closet racist white ppl. I'ma just ignore ya'll to be safe.

yeah man, invision, you did infact sound more racist in that last comment...just stop specifying everything man, and classifying everything....you may not be racist, but you sure as hell sound like you have a problem with "minorities"

i say, drop this discussion because its stupid and its leading far off from what it started as

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Yeah f'real. I don't even got problems with any race. I just get on defense mad quick. Call me sensitive, but shit really gets me worked up. My rap partner is white for christs sake. =/