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Old 03-29-06, 05:23 PM   #1
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And once again for those trying to distort what is really being said, The scripture quotes:

30The God of our fathers raised Jesus from the dead—whom you had killed by hanging him on a tree.

Jesus died on the crucifix from his wounds, such as the stab in the ribs by the soldiers spear. NOT from him 'just hanging there', especially seeing that he wasn't HANGING since his weight was completely supported by the nails. How do you not know this??

Further more, two pieces of wood that CROSS is not a "tree", just as the wooden supports for a guillotine is not a "tree", just as the wooden frame of an electric chair is not a "tree", so who's trying to twist what now?


cmon man, THINK!
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Old 03-29-06, 06:01 PM   #2
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Its a metaphor. Of course the "cross" that Jesus was hung on is made out of wood. Wood - > Tree.......see the connection. "Hung on the cross", "Hung on a tree"....same thing. Just a use of metaphor.
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Its a metaphor. Of course the "cross" that Jesus was hung on is made out of wood. Wood - > Tree.......see the connection. "Hung on the cross", "Hung on a tree"....same thing. Just a use of metaphor.



Apparently, bible bashing pagans don't use metaphors.








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Its a metaphor. Of course the "cross" that Jesus was hung on is made out of wood. Wood - > Tree.......see the connection. "Hung on the cross", "Hung on a tree"....same thing. Just a use of metaphor.


^^this point was dispelled in the last two posts on the prior page. What you're talking about is not a tree simply because it was made from one, in no more a way that Bat is a tree or a Guillotine is a tree, nor the wooden structure of an electric chair is a tree.


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Apparently, bible bashing pagans don't use metaphors.

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You continually fail to show any logic in what you're saying - especially when your account of things is contradicting with the bible - your supposed "source". You just keep agreeing with anyone who chimes in in short sight, though still avoid the topic and prove absolutely nothing in the process.

BTW, stop trying to paint me as a Pagan simply because you're making an ass of your self. I'm far from a Pagan. But that's pretty ironic, coming from someone who says "Jesus is a curse on humanity"

But entertain me with more of your stories and tell me again how Jesus died and became a curse on humanity again. LMAO

Oh wait, I pinned you down on your own bullshit agian. That means you're about to do what you always do about this time.

Clutch your pearls, and RUUNN!!!
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Q....For a Christians Im ashamed of you. Dont you know better than to throw pearls before a swine. But yeah I agree with Q. Apexx no beef but, your greatly twisting the words of a bible nit picking at everyword. And the bible(proverbs) has answers to "life's" questions. Not those made by man. Asking that mathmatical question to be answerd by the bible is like asking for mathmatical solutions in a english book. But i shall leave this thread for ten minutes and be back to check reponses.


There is ignorance afoot here
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Q....For a Christians Im ashamed of you. Dont you know better than to throw pearls before a swine. But yeah I agree with Q. Apexx no beef but, your greatly twisting the words of a bible nit picking at everyword. And the bible(proverbs) has answers to "life's" questions. Not those made by man. Asking that mathmatical question to be answerd by the bible is like asking for mathmatical solutions in a english book. But i shall leave this thread for ten minutes and be back to check reponses.


There is ignorance afoot here



How am I "nit picking" by looking for meaning? By not accepting everything I read on face value and asking questions, I'm nit picking? Cmon man, you gotta be jokin. Prove me wrong, then you'll make sense. Don't try to judge who I am.

I'll be damned if I'll take judgements from a dude who says he lives in "Niggaville".

You're right. Ignorance IS afoot.
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Old 03-29-06, 08:16 PM   #8
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Don't quote me either plz. Cuz yes i am a christian. And a beleiver and know alil bit of the bible. I dont study it yet i take heed of its lessons. I know that you can't give a homeless bum top secret military plans and formulas and expect them to understand and cope with a the information. Just like you cant give a non-beleiver who is not intune with christanity and the bible, biblical verses and expect them to cope with it and understand. You shouldn't just take one peice of the bible and exploid it trying to get answers then deny the answers you get. I guareentee you you will not come close to understanding anything in the bible by not reading all of it. You got to read and study it to understand and comprehend the information it holds. Doing that is like taking a peice of reciepe and using only that peice and expecting to get the whole thing in its glory. Which will not happen.
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Don't quote me either plz. Cuz yes i am a christian. And a beleiver and know alil bit of the bible. I dont study it yet i take heed of its lessons. I know that you can't give a homeless bum top secret military plans and formulas and expect them to understand and cope with a the information. Just like you cant give a non-beleiver who is not intune with christanity and the bible, biblical verses and expect them to cope with it and understand. You shouldn't just take one peice of the bible and exploid it trying to get answers then deny the answers you get. I guareentee you you will not come close to understanding anything in the bible by not reading all of it. You got to read and study it to understand and comprehend the information it holds. Doing that is like taking a peice of reciepe and using only that peice and expecting to get the whole thing in its glory. Which will not happen.


What answers? all I heard was people doing the same thing they always do and say that when the bible contradicts it self, the statement isn't literal. That's the norm.


BTW, you DO know that I already read the entire Bible cover to cover when I was catholic right?

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Yeah i put that down like when i first joined this site. And have not went back to change it. So plz dont try to use something i jotted down from a song i liked way back when to prove my ignorance.


Why not? You said it and didn't do a thing about it, either then OR now. Then you want to call me ignorant. But ok ok..I'll be nice. I could point out the same thing in your sig or the fact that your name intentionally sounds like a champagne glorified in rap videos. Yeah...you're real deep...

Like I said man, don't go pointing fingers. Prove anything I'm saying wrong, then we'll be getting somewhere. Making assumptions about who you think I am is a bad idea.
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Yeah i put that down like when i first joined this site. And have not went back to change it. So plz dont try to use something i jotted down from a song i liked way back when to prove my ignorance.
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Ok First Name Chris....Last name Styles. Christopher Damion Micheal Styles. I dont see whats the problem of me putting my actual name on here and just Shortening the first name and droppin the S for a Z. And just because you read something dosent mean you fully taken in the information. like today. I read chapter 8.1 to 8.7 in my Honors Cal book. And im still lost on the subject.
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Ok First Name Chris....Last name Styles. Christopher Damion Micheal Styles. I dont see whats the problem of me putting my actual name on here and just Shortening the first name and droppin the S for a Z. And just because you read something dosent mean you fully taken in the information. like today. I read chapter 8.1 to 8.7 in my Honors Cal book. And im still lost on the subject.


but you asking questions about math isn't nit picking? me doing the same with the bible is?


That's called a "double Standard" my friend. Try agian.

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ANd I just said Ignorance is afoot. I never pointed out that directly saying that you were ignorant. I said that because im watching my little cousins and their just acting how little cousin are suppose to act. Ignorant. Anyways if my location really does bother you that much. I'll change it. Here give me a min.


Why would you be commenting on your little cousins at he end of a post on RV where you talk about people who are non-believers? Odds of that seem mighty slim IMO.

And why would your location bother me. Why would I give a shit? lmao. That represents you, why would I care? lol.

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1. How man wise men was there.

2. What was the fruit that adam and eve was forbidden to eat


3. apple. Cmon man, these are basic questions. Why don't I ask you questins on things that are in the bible, like Jesus real birthday. What was Jesu's real name. What did Jesus do for the first 30-something years of his life that the bible dosen't go into detail about. Answer those, then we'll talk.

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uh yea, thats likeme saying im gonna go and smoke some tree, and you be like what kind of tree? oak? cmon now, stop thinkin sooo hard when the answer is right there in you face, or try emailing a minister, see if they can give you an answer


You're talking about SLANG which is barely "english" to begin with. If somebody told you "my grandfather was killed by someone hanging him in a tree" you'd IMMEDIATELY know exactly what they meant. You wouldn't say "damn son, they crucified him??". They'd be lookin at you like "WTF is this dude on??"
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but you asking questions about math isn't nit picking? me doing the same with the bible is?


That's called a "double Standard" my friend. Try agian.



Why would you be commenting on your little cousins at he end of a post on RV where you talk about people who are non-believers? Odds of that seem mighty slim IMO.

And why would your location bother me. Why would I give a shit? lmao. That represents you, why would I care? lol.



3. apple. Cmon man, these are basic questions. Why don't I ask you questins on things that are in the bible, like Jesus real birthday. What was Jesu's real name. What did Jesus do for the first 30-something years of his life that the bible dosen't go into detail about. Answer those, then we'll talk.



You're talking about SLANG which is barely "english" to begin with. If somebody told you "my grandfather was killed by someone hanging him in a tree" you'd IMMEDIATELY know exactly what they meant. You wouldn't say "damn son, they crucified him??". They'd be lookin at you like "WTF is this dude on??"




Ok if it was such a basic question then how come you got it wrong. They do not name the type of fruit. It just forbidden fruit god told them not to eat. So plz stop acting like you know everything. You may know somethings but not everything. And in case your trying to figure how many wise men there is. It dosent say anything about how many there is.
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Ok if it was such a basic question then how come you got it wrong. They do not name the type of fruit. It just forbidden fruit god told them not to eat. So plz stop acting like you know everything. You may know somethings but not everything. And in case your trying to figure how many wise men there is. It dosent say anything about how many there is.



You're aboslutely right. Luckily for me, my scope of information is a lot wider that "everythig in my life is contained in the bible". Read and you will see that spanish history has recorded these KINGS (not bums) in their history, and have a tomb for them. Also read this:


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Magi, or Three Kings, men who came from the East to adore the newborn Jesus. Mat. 2. They were the first to tell Herod of the birth. A star (the Star of Bethlehem) had been a sign for them. Christian tradition has elaborated the biblical account; it has set their number as three, perhaps from their gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh; it has called them kings, perhaps from Ps. 72.10,11 and Isa. 49.7,23 considered as prophecies; and it has given them names, Caspar or Gaspar, Melchior, and Balthazar. They are called sometimes the Three Kings of Cologne because there is a great shrine to them in the cathedral at Cologne. The feast of the Epiphany commemorates their visit. In art the visit is called the Adoration of the Magi.


The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. Copyright © 2001-05 Columbia University Press.



^^Can you bring a more convincing argument for your point than this? No? aww...ok then.

Now we're gonna play the "mm..mmaybe the Encyclopedia is Lying..." game.

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Also i believe the bible was written before lynching or hanging people by their neck was ever even though of. And lyching were not done back in those days if i can remember my history correctly. So how can jesus be hung by his neck if the punishment was never even thought before.



"if" and "I believe" are what your argument revolves on lmao. You dont' know jack shit son. You don't think people knew how to strangle somebody with their own weight? That shit was probably like..the first recorded suicide before men had blades and shit lmao, wtf you think people are, neanderthals?

It ain't liek you're talking about being shit with a laser son. You're talking about a damn rope lmao.
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ANd I just said Ignorance is afoot. I never pointed out that directly saying that you were ignorant. I said that because im watching my little cousins and their just acting how little cousin are suppose to act. Ignorant. Anyways if my location really does bother you that much. I'll change it. Here give me a min.
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