didnt you know that what the teach u in school history books are lies

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whateva......OK.....and were do u git your info......BILL MAHER?

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no even one of my teachers has admitted this
they wrote a book on this its called lies my history teacher told me

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I think that everyone deserves a chance at freedom, but they still need to be here legally. I think that the U.S. should make it easier for immigrants to gain citizenship, because alot of them aren't coming here to do harm, their just looking for something that was already given to all of us.

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Everyone saying "illegal immigrants should go back where they came from " should consider that you'd be paying WAY more for EVERYTHING you buy if it weren't for people willing to work for WAY cheaper than YOU would, for a job you aren't willing to take. They're the life blood that loads your goods on trucks, picked AND packaged the food you eat, and if you got a house built in the last 15-20years guaranteed they even built the house you live in. Huge corporations (like Wallmart for example) save billions by not having to pay things like benefeits and 401k's and so on and paying these employees a fraction of what you'd want to do the same job and they still put out way more work than you do. The savings they pass along are now legendary and they're puttin bigger companies outta business. Not to mention, employing illegal immigrants or ANYBODY for that matter keeps them off the streets and out of crimes. that's a good thing, not a bad thing.

That = good business, which is why Bush will NEVER completely stop a willing workforce that works for cheap. Specially since we're already trillions of dollars deep in financial trouble over this fuckin war, we need all the savings we can earn, and we all know the corporations love money.

Like everything you've ever felt the effects of..it's all about money son.

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But we also lose billions of dollars in taxes which makes the prices rise. If we had people actually paying their taxes, then the economy would start to balance out more and prices would be more stable instead of rising and dropping so suddenly.

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It might look that way on the surface man, but these illegal immigrants' pay checks are still getting taxed all the same. These are checks remember, not cash. Companes like Walmart don't pay ANYBODY under the table, and neither do the unionized assembely plants, your local distribution center or the us govt. Pretty much, no business that's paying you with a check instead of cash.

Illegal immigrants are still getting taxed on top of that when they go to cash their checks, since they can't open bank accounts. The check cashing joint gets taxed and passes that right along.

also, remember the old business adage "a penny saved is a penny earned", and they're saving billions more than the hundred-millions thats slipping through the cracks.

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I think they should stay here.

They don't get 'taxed', they get money withheld which then stays in the hands of the business they work for. They business doesn't have to pay taxes on that money because the government doesn't know it exists, we make so much money they lose track of it all.

I'm just sick of the smoochers that just live off of America and then go back to their own country with our money.

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nope. Their payhcecks have deductions like medicaid, 401k, social security and state tax, just like everyone elses pay check. Companies don't and can't keep that since they'd get audited out the ass for all the unclaimed profits.

I don't care how powerful the company is, they're still the IRS's bitch. The same immigrants still pay taxes on their daily purchases, just liek everybody else does, and the govt LOVES another tax paying citizen.

believe me man, financially speaking, there's not one single loss for anyone involved. The govt relies on this type of activity to make money. They don't care if its illegal, so imigration reform of any type will ALWAYS come slowly.

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funny...because i learned that in history class and if i had a camera i would take a picture exactly where it says in my textbook

and about immigrants, i worked with them last year in construction, you guys have no idea what kinda shit they have to do, i worked with them for a month and a half and i was done after that i was tired of it, they have to do the shit for the rest of their lives, and you guys wanna deport them back to mexico? for what? you guys act like they're running into your homes and taking everything or somethin, i said this in another thread the day you were born in america is the day you have a million more opportunities then others, stop bitching about them, they have to do manual labor until they die, you dont...you should be thankful and leave them the fuck alone to do what they have to do

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what the hell r u talkin about......i agree with you on the immigrant issue......

but not on what u said about jews not being allowed in america...if thats true.... how come we have so many jews then?........cuz they sure as hell didnt come over on the mayflower......

but whats the name of your text book i can find it on the net

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prentice hall brief review in u.s. history and government is the name of it

it says

"The United States and other nations failed to take strong action to rescure Jews from Nazi Germany before World War 2. In 1939, the St. Louis, a passenger ship carrying more than 900 jewish refugees, left Europe for Cuba, but when they arrived, most of the refugees were denied permission to land there. The refugees were also denied permission to enter the United States, and the ship was forced to return to Europe. Most of the ship's passengers eventually were killed in the Holocaust."

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thats one event.......and that was before the war...............I said after the war we let them all in............

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oh ok my fault, i thought you meant entirely, yea after the war they helped out jews and shit

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