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Old 03-01-09, 09:47 PM   #1
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Actually Niger is black in Latin.

"Atra" means dark, "Niger" meaning the color black.


I know it's Niger. Was just cherry picking his "point. It's pretty obvious why "nigger" is offensive and "Caucasian" isn't.
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Old 03-01-09, 04:47 PM   #2
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ethnic - not acknowledging the God of Christianity and Judaism and Islam.


Ethnic groups eh?
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Old 03-01-09, 08:55 PM   #3
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thank you......
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Old 03-01-09, 08:58 PM   #4
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yeah but what the fuck are you talking about caucasian and latin..... D:
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Old 03-01-09, 10:12 PM   #5
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Racism only exists to people that make it an issue, get over it.
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Old 03-01-09, 11:11 PM   #6
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Racism only exists to people that make it an issue, get over it.


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Old 03-01-09, 10:18 PM   #7
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Well no, it's not obvious why the word nigger is offensive, apparently.

people look to the word nigger for its origins and early usage in the US as a reason to say it's not offensive, but it is only offensive because of modern day people using it to associate all dark skinned peoples that are not of "Caucasian" or light-skinned descent with not just slavery, but an overall lack of everything in a light-skinned person's comparison.

It has been this way only since a quarter way through the 1900's, and continues to this day with people who consider their white skin to be superior throwing the word in dark skin people's faces.

When in reality it means Black in Latin and deviations of the word only appeared when people felt a significance to their certain time/area. A lot of general ethnocentrism surrounds the word also, as some people in history have preferred one deviation of the word over another because of where one word came from, such as the Spanish or French deviation of the Latin word versus the strict Latin deviation.

This is why the word is racist, so if you're going to call a dark skinned person a nigger, you could be considered racist by people who might assume such a thing, but if you're openly referring to a person's skin color, in modern times, you should always say "black", because we are not Latin nor do we use their language unless it is as a reason to describe origins.

Negroes of America thus would be acceptable,

but it's just overall easier to say Blacks of America.

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Old 03-01-09, 10:37 PM   #8
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I didn't say caucasian was latin, just that the origins of the word mean white, so thats my argument, how do the two wrods that mean the same thing run so different on the scale. The blame on racism is shared equally with the ignornat retards that hate on a race and the morons who let it effect them, I don't give a shit if a non white person called me white trash, I'd call them an asshole cause thats what they are, not a racist. It's a lable thrown around nowadays a lot where it don't belong, not saying racism is not a problem but just cause a white dude drops the n bomb don't make him racist.
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Old 03-01-09, 11:24 PM   #9
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I didn't say caucasian was latin, just that the origins of the word mean white, so thats my argument, how do the two wrods that mean the same thing run so different on the scale. The blame on racism is shared equally with the ignornat retards that hate on a race and the morons who let it effect them, I don't give a shit if a non white person called me white trash, I'd call them an asshole cause thats what they are, not a racist. It's a lable thrown around nowadays a lot where it don't belong, not saying racism is not a problem but just cause a white dude drops the n bomb don't make him racist.


http://www.lipmagazine.org/~timwise/whatcard.html

I know you won't read or w/e, but you wouldn't read my post either so there. It's not really directed at you. It's just shit that I just post since that article is written by a white person therefore it's credible to people since black people don't have the authority to analyze what's going on in their lives to a lot of white people. It's not like it's the bible of my beliefs though. The only way to get people like Adam to shutup though is to basically trap them into contradicting themselves(like quoting them calling out anti-white racism), but when you're on a mostly white forum(like most rap forums), you get jaded at saying anything about racism. I usually debate people on RV because people like Nos, 2v, and(before he died) OMB actually had an argument and not just STFU STOP BITCHING IM SICK OF HEARING ABOUT PROBLEMS OF NON-WHITE PEOPLE bs.

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Old 03-01-09, 11:19 PM   #10
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That's a childish way of putting it.
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Old 03-01-09, 11:24 PM   #11
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That's a childish way of putting it.



Not really. You basically said racism is only a problem if it's considered an issue. Freddy only exists if you acknowledge his existence.
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Old 03-01-09, 11:29 PM   #12
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Not really. You basically said racism is only a problem if it's an issue. Freddy only exists if you acknowledge his existence.


Oh for fuck sakes,

Only fucking losers use racism and if people that are offended can't realize and accept that, they're fucking just as lame.

Don't even try to say it's anywhere near how it used to be, America is run by a fucking black man for Christ's sake, you'd never even dream of that happening 20 years ago.

Racism is old and played out, quit being so fucking selfish and worry about something important.
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Old 03-01-09, 11:38 PM   #13
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Oh for fuck sakes,

Only fucking losers use racism and if people that are offended can't realize and accept that, they're fucking just as lame.

Don't even try to say it's anywhere near how it used to be, America is run by a fucking black man for Christ's sake, you'd never even dream of that happening 20 years ago.

Racism is old and played out, quit being so fucking selfish and worry about something important.


For one, I don't get offended by someone saying nigger. I don't care if someone doesn't like black people. Racism is only a problem when it becomes an identity issue. The same way that any other form of collectivism does. If a white person sees hisself as superior, racism is beneficial because it's something he or she could fall back on if they're not feeling confident. The reverse is true if he sees whites as inferior. So yeah, it's in someone's head. So if someone gets offended by being called Nigger they obviously see themselves as inferior. The problem is, if a policemen or a US marine kills someone and detains them because their race made them appear more "guilty" to them, me not "worrying" about it, won't really do much, but make people who aren't affected by it(or are likely to never be affected by it) feel better for some reason.(pride is more important than fairness)

Selfish? Being selfish is suppressing an issue that affects people just because it doesn't affect YOUR people. And for the most part, people who keep saying shut up about racism only want people to shut up about it because most of the people being criticized are white people. The second a reverend wright issue comes up and a black person(or any other non white person) is being racist, they're perfectly okay with it. They won't tell white people to shut up. And I know it's not as bad as it was 20 years ago. It's not bad because racism stopped being TOLERATED. That's why things have improved(if that's how you wanna look at it)
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Old 03-01-09, 11:47 PM   #14
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For one, I don't get offended by someone saying nigger. I don't care if someone doesn't like black people. Racism is only a problem when it becomes an identity issue. The same way that any other form of collectivism does. If a white person sees hisself as superior, racism is beneficial because it's something he or she could fall back on if they're not feeling confident. The reverse is true if he sees whites as inferior. So yeah, it's in someone's head. So if someone gets offended by being called Nigger they obviously see themselves as inferior. The problem is, if a policemen or a US marine kills someone and detains them because their race made them appear more "guilty" to them, me not "worrying" about it, won't really do much, but make people who aren't affected by it(or are likely to never be affected by it) feel better for some reason.(pride is more important than fairness)

Selfish? Being selfish is suppressing an issue that affects people just because it doesn't affect YOUR people. And for the most part, people who keep saying shut up about racism only want people to shut up about it because most of the people being criticized are white people. The second a reverend wright issue comes up and a black person(or any other non white person) is being racist, they're perfectly okay with it. They won't tell white people to shut up. And I know it's not as bad as it was 20 years ago. It's not bad because racism stopped being TOLERATED. That's why things have improved(if that's how you wanna look at it)


If any race was whining about it I'd tell them to shut the fuck up. It's fucking morons like you saying shit like "YOUR people" that continue to keep racism alive. I have minimal Native American in me, but it reflects in my skin tone and I get called shit all the time, I don't give a flying fuck, if that's what somebody has to resort to they're obviously not worth anybody's time. You know why I don't have trouble with the cops? Because I don't do stupid enough shit too or get involved in the wrong situations.

There are people starving and dying of disease in other areas of the world and your crying about being called a name on an internet forum that you know is full of fucking idiots.

You do you man, but if anything between you and I, I'd say you're more racist. You criticized and accused me and "my people" of doing something and all I said was to "grow up" to you personally. I guess it's okay for you to do though. -_-
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Old 03-02-09, 12:04 AM   #15
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