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Old 06-05-08, 06:11 AM   #1
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all i was stating was the Obama is tryin to make Americans LESS depend on other people. Back in the 50's America was hard working, less talk, and no bullshit. Now all we are is a bunch of fucking cry baby pussy who want other people to always fix our problems
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Old 06-05-08, 09:55 AM   #2
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Ok....I think I get his approach now. Tell me if I got it.....


Obama:

- wants to get the ball rolling on fixing our economy however it can be fixed
- wants to help solve the health care crisis by any means
- wants to help end the war in Iraq as soon as possible
- wants to give more power back to the people


All those seem like really good things, but its not really separating him from anyone else besides that last comment. And when people have more power, they also bear more responsibility. What people really want is power with no responsibility......lol. Anyway, I can see why he is liked and why people are going to vote for him, I now just don't see how he's any different than the other candidates. The only main difference between him and McCain is on the war in Iraq and that McCain actually has a couple of plans laid out.



Hmmmmm.......those two differences almost cancel each other out in my mind....lol.



I really want to see a debate between McCain and Obama that isn't like the last Democratic debate where they ask retarded ass questions, like "Obama, why don't you wear a flag pin?"
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Old 06-06-08, 10:31 AM   #3
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Ok....I think I get his approach now. Tell me if I got it.....


Obama:

- wants to get the ball rolling on fixing our economy however it can be fixed
- wants to help solve the health care crisis by any means
- wants to help end the war in Iraq as soon as possible
- wants to give more power back to the people


All those seem like really good things, but its not really separating him from anyone else besides that last comment. And when people have more power, they also bear more responsibility. What people really want is power with no responsibility......lol. Anyway, I can see why he is liked and why people are going to vote for him, I now just don't see how he's any different than the other candidates. The only main difference between him and McCain is on the war in Iraq and that McCain actually has a couple of plans laid out.



Hmmmmm.......those two differences almost cancel each other out in my mind....lol.



I really want to see a debate between McCain and Obama that isn't like the last Democratic debate where they ask retarded ass questions, like "Obama, why don't you wear a flag pin?"



What? You think Mccain gives a fuck about the people? Yeah fuckin' right dude, and of course Obama takes money from special interest groups. He gets a majority of his cash from Wall Street. The same people that benefit immensely from the war are supporting all mainstream candidates. The best I've heard in this argument is "He donates that money to charities though and doesn't spend it on his campaign!!!!!" Prove it.

But lol @ You saying he wants to end the Iraq war as soon as possible and comparing that to Mccain. Mccain wants the Iraq war to go on as long as possible as long as -he- believes it is protecting us. He's a Bush-man, man.
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Old 06-06-08, 10:42 AM   #4
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What? You think Mccain gives a fuck about the people? Yeah fuckin' right dude, and of course Obama takes money from special interest groups. He gets a majority of his cash from Wall Street. The same people that benefit immensely from the war are supporting all mainstream candidates. The best I've heard in this argument is "He donates that money to charities though and doesn't spend it on his campaign!!!!!" Prove it.

But lol @ You saying he wants to end the Iraq war as soon as possible and comparing that to Mccain. Mccain wants the Iraq war to go on as long as possible as long as -he- believes it is protecting us. He's a Bush-man, man.

I must have been misunderstood or have misspoken. I know McCain isn't planning on ending the war like the other candidates. He plans to let the shit play out just like Bush is doing, thus getting dubbed with all those "he's just like Bush" comments.


I'm pretty sure that Obama plans to end the war pretty much as soon as he gets in office. If he doesn't, there's no chance in hell of him getting reelected. Well, in all fairness, I thought the same about Bush


And what's up with Bob Barr? I just heard about him like 2 days ago. What's he all about?
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Old 06-05-08, 12:43 PM   #5
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Obama does take money from special interest groups. He has the majority of his donations coming in increments of $100 or less, but that doesn't add up to the amount of money he's spending.


lol @ people really thinking he doesn't take any money from special interest groups
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Old 06-06-08, 10:50 AM   #6
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Barrack Obama has said "There is nothing off the table with respects to Iran." That includes military attacks, bombs, and even Nuclear exchange. Which takes away his credibility as a Muslim. Muslims hate non-muslims and that's the way their Religion tells them to be. That's a damned good reason for me to believe and trust in the country to Barrack Obama, rather than Mccain. Why? There is too much evidence against Mccain as a human being than there is petty excuses against Barrack Obama. Bob Barr isn't someone I looked too much into, but I know he's from Georgia and he spent some time on some committee, and he didn't show interest in the election until 2008 (because OTHER people wanted him to run) so it baffles me that Mike Gravel, trying to be our nation's president since 2005 and campaigning since early 2006, lost to a random fuck-wad named Bob Barr. If you want me to go look into his ideals I would, but, blah ... Fuck Bob Barr. Saying that just feels too good.

so does "Go away, Mccain!". and "Obama" is just sucky to say in general. My opinions, :/


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Bob Barr is a strong advocate of the War On Drugs.

He just went into negativity in my eyes. You gotta be a real fucking fool to think the War On Drugs is a good thing. ROFLMFAO.....

FUCK.BOB.BARR.

Alright. Fine. This peaked my interests. Final Edit:

He's for guns. He's against abortion and the IRS. He's for medical marijuana but for the war on drugs.

Same Sex Marriage:
Same-sex marriage

Barr took a lead in legislative debate concerning same-sex marriage. He authored and sponsored the Defense of Marriage Act, a law enacted in 1996 which states that only marriages that are between a man and a woman can be federally recognized, and individual states may choose not to recognize a same-sex marriage performed in another state.[39] At the 2008 Libertarian National Convention, he apologized for the part of the Defense of Marriage Act which prevents the federal government from recognizing same-sex marriages.

However, he opposes the Federal Marriage Amendment, contending it is a violation of states' rights.
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He's against one Religion. He says Wicca should be banned in the Military. lol?

oh shit, Bob Barr supports the Fair Tax. Muahahahahhha..... That's a point for him. I might actually take back my "Fuck Bob Barr"s. Couldn't help it, my hero lost to this random nigga. Still, Hmm... His ideals are beating Obama and Mccain's. So yeah, uh, I might vote Bob Barr coming election time, no matter how much I doubt he'll win. I guess Ron Paul has about as much of a chance as Bob.
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Old 06-06-08, 05:42 PM   #7
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Old 06-07-08, 01:37 AM   #8
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The real question about Bob Barr though, as my final statement of him, is that as soon as he lost to Mccain he decided to go Libertarian . Soon after doing so he changed some of his previous ideals.

This could or might not be a scam but I'd say that changing your ideals after you change your title is a bit two faced and second saying . I'd rate Bob Barr a weak candidate in getting elected, who the fuck far out in the woods is gonna hear about him ? lol

Go for Obama. The lesser of the evils wins again. . . Oh, and first hour in office, someone get the dude bodyguards.

There ARE hicks out there stupid enough to get pissed about a black president . . Even though hating blacks has become nearly infamous in the states, we still do have a KKK, weak as they are, you know.

Fuck white power I'm pale powerrrr....
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