Like I said..when you are on TV/Radio MTV on REGULAR ROTATION...of course MTV 2 gonna trip up and play somebody one time during they day, you can't play the same 4 or 5 rappers 24 hours even though they get pretty damn close to it..but you can't say "Yo, they played my video one time before so now I'm commercial"..When you start getin that play on the regular then yhea...You making it harder than what it is because you picked the wrong word.....just like you said.....what you should have said is underground/MAINSTREAM..thats the right word.....

Because if you break down the real meaning of Commercial, it means to sell something..so in that vain everybody is commercial in the technical since..You can sell fuckin 2 CDs..you commercial because you SOLD them.....but alot of poeple think the word commercial means the same thing as mainstream when it ain't....

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bruklor is one of those people LOL, he got mad at me cause i said i didnt liek the new atmosphere. i hate people that think being underground makes them cool

I wasn't mad at you. I just called you an idiot.

You didn't say you didn't like it by the way. You said it sucked. There's a difference, one is an opinion, one is a statement.

underground....don't talk about "bling bling" and shit like that for the most part..

mainstream.....they all sound the same

no no no people...a few people got it right...it has nothing to do with the quality of your music...hahaha...thats stupid...nas, jay z, eminem are still the best rappers in the game, and they are as commercial as you can probably get...

Commercial means you are on t.v./radio/etc.

Underground means you are exactly that...underground, not in the spotlight...etc.

about saying mainstream is a stream cause its weak...you're a fucking idiot.



you're an idiot...and you don't understand hip hop.

comercial, most of the time commercial music has the best soundquality...
but underground can be dope 2...

Err...Jay-z has fell off and is very overrated...
Nas... he is ok but it is a lot of other emcees that are better
than him...
M&M used to be good until he became comercial...

Some People are underground because they do not want to get
caught up in the mainstream life stlye...
Some rappers are 30x better than any mainstream rapper but are just not able to get a deal...or what not
Some are underground because they suck and also can not get
a deal...

All in All i really don't really think you could really classify rappers
into these topics...It would be too hard to...

but in just as a literal explination i'd go exactly wit how C-section
explained since there is no other/better way..

Underground is not a specific genre of rap or any music. It's basically the people that haven't made it to the top yet. UNDERGROUND
People get this confused because you here mostly back packin rap music dubbed as underground. That's because the mainstream of people are not feelin the back-packin shit. So the BP-Mc's dwell with an underground "following".
Cash money & No limit was underground for a long time, sellin shit out the trunks, and they were very famous in New Orleans, but it was until they got big distrubution deals that they were able to reach everybody, and broke into the mainstream.

Commercial just means your work is product now. The lyrics aren't hardcore because only a small percentage of people understand "molecular structurs that'll rattle and rupture the universe spacetime algara-rhythms". They just want to be entertained, they just wanna have fun singin along with you.

You get paid to rhyme, and to ME, that is the highest form of respect and flattery. To actually have someone like your shit soooo much, that they make an effort to go out and buy it with their hard earned money.

Fuck a bunch of funky ass dudes talkin about "yeah keep it real son, you maaaad nice". I can't do nothin with that!!

people talk about:

"your a success when you become rich, with a big house, and a swimming pool etc etc etc blah blah"

Well I say:
"If your alive, your a success"



So what if you earn -200 quid a week, as long your dope, your dope, and repuatation, nor anything else can change that shit.

^^Yhea in a perfect world that wou;d be nice...but we all know how much power and social status you got revolves around how much money you have...individual talents/personality don't really mean much no more.......Just look at that Joe Millionair bullshit...look how many hoes be jumpin at my man's dick when they think he got loot...then when they find out he don't look how many hop off....

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Umm i think your a mainstream rapper, when your songs get played on Radios and M tv and shit constantly and constantly and constantly. Where i live they don't play any underground music on radio or tv, unless its like 3 in the morning, so if you can get your shit on the radio in australia i would label you mainstream.

Every rapper that is intending to make money is commercial, because thats the meaning, but people on this site, who have no intention would fit into the underground category, because they have no commercial income, but ppl like spliv who have thye latest albums in their sigs, are commercial rappers.


If that makes sense.....
lol

PcE

what i dont understand is, that if your underground like non-phixion, taskforce, sage francis etc then how came they still put there albums out and advertising them? wouldnt that be commercialising themselves for people to buy there shit?

ahh

Underground-Not on TV not on Radio

Commercial- On TV on Radio

My definitions:

Commerical: Sellouts that want money for the raps that they do, they are nto devoted to rap, they want money and want to be known by the world. Or they need money and have no other way to do it.

Underground: Best rappers in the world that don't want to sellout to companys but are satisfied being welknown by all the other underground people.

Easy as that.