Tupac? He was a gangster after he didn't need to be.

Smart.

It's been proven Shakespeare didn't write all his stuff? Hmmm...could you please point me towards that proof. No, scratch that. Could you please open the door and show me some of this proof.

Because i've always thought of it in as a mere 'doubt' rather than something that has been proven. I mean come on, judging it on writing style with little to nothing else to back it up is a bit weak.

Saying that, i am not saying he DID write it all, no argument. Just that i give the benefit of the doubt to his name.

Not the most smartest? Well, i see the question as a bit too broad. But he's up there with the great 'intellects'. Someone said 'all he did was understand human nature and society'. Well, yes, that takes intelligence. To understand it and then intepret it into the work that we see today. Plays that have lasted centuries. Become universal to the extent that they have translated into many different languages to cater for the demand in many different countries.

To say 'if he didn't do it....someone else would've'...is also a bit off. One might say the same about many scientists who achieved great things.

Also saw a comment about 'i or anyone else could write waht he wrote'...er, really? Hmmm, maybe you'd like to submit 5 lines for us. Don't worry, i'll wait by the phone, ready to call The Shakespeare Company about the 'second coming' of their prodigal...


Oh, and i've only ever read two Shakespeare plays fully. Not fully into 'his' work. But i can appreciate what it is. The recognition of subteltites is usually what makes one realise the true extent of his work. And the extent of 'inteligence' it takes to write such things. Oh, and can't forget how important his work is to the English language. Though there was someone before him who they say is the 'unsung hero'. His name escapes my mind..

But hey, i also appreciate other points of views. His name just came off the top off me head when writing a couple names down. And one cannot argue him popping up in people's 'lists'...as he was a man of genius in his fields. At least, what was in his name...

i believe he wrote his own stuff but did not come up with the plots. .

Shakespeare wrote more than 30 plays covering a variety of subjects and genres--tragedies, comedies, and histories. His plays are remembered mainly for three things--the beauty of the words he wrote, the excellence of his storytelling, and his inventiveness with words. He used a vocabulary of more than 20,000 different words (the King James Bible, in contrast, uses less than 10,000 different words), many of which he invented himself and which are still in use today. His plays dealt with such important themes as how a country should be run, how power should be transferred, and how to respond to an unjust government, but he also showed great insight into matters such as relationships within families and between men and women.
There have been many arguments about whether Shakespeare really wrote the plays that are attributed to him. It has been argued that he did not have enough education or the background to use language the way he did or to have the insight into human nature, history, and the various issues that he treats in his plays. It has been proposed that another person or persons actually wrote the plays, using Shakespeare as a "front." This person might have been a member of the nobility who did not want to be openly associated with the theater. However, these theories did not surface until long after Shakespeare's death. The written record indicates that Shakespeare's friends and contemporaries certainly accepted him as the author of the plays attributed to him, and it was not until many decades after his death that his authorship was questioned. It seems unlikely that such a secret could have been kept by so many people, and in the absence of convincing evidence that he did not write the plays, or that someone else did, it is generally accepted now that Shakespeare wrote the plays attributed to him.

Few of Shakespeare's plays were based on plots of his own invention. He drew on the history of England (Henry VIII, Henry V, King John), old stories (Hamlet), classical history (Julius Caesar, Anthony and Cleopatra), Italian stories (Merchant of Venice, Two Gentlemen from Verona), and contemporary prose (As You Like It, A Winter's Tale). However, he always improved on his source materials, for example, by expanding minor characters, introducing entirely new characters, rearranging plots to make them more effective, giving the a wider philosophical outlook, and writing wonderful dialogue to put in the mouths of the characters.

Shakespeare's influence continues until this day. His plays are still staged all over the world, and they continue to influence playwrights, directors, theater designers, and actors.

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nah its proven shakespear didnt right some i=of his shit, but tupac was a genious, even tho he didnt need to be

Yeah with his 185 IQ.


HAHAHAHA.

"Even tho he didn't need it" - what the fuck ?

Hitler wasn't exactly a genius, but he was a great speaker, one of the best(Just not a good guy). On other people's lists, you meantion people that aren't super smart, but are great speakers. They come off the tongue smart that way.

Anyways, I heard Einstein used like 17% of his brain, normal people now use like under 10%. I heard that he had the most almost ever. And the person with the highest IQ in the world is a woman (Or was a woman).

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Loki - Plots? Well yes. But the basis of plots he did not come up with he nonetheless did so much with. Built upon them to make them his own.

He showed that he could come up with his own plots which were more than up to standard. One could put it all down to artist-writer choice. The path he chose as he felt right artistically.

I don't think it means as much as some people make it out to be. Esepcially on it's own.

i agree. from that post about where he got the inspiration from, it gave me the impression he drew the ideas from the world around him. and besides, a plot would be nothign without the writing to make it into an actual story.

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Retarded people's heads are to big..I'll be back with something just as funny as watching the Special Olympics..don't worry..

Hitler? or any political leader belonging to a party being one of the worlds smartest is the most bogus comment ever made you faggit...the leader is merely the spokesperson for everything his workers have created...Hitler was no genius...A great orator & schemer he was...fuck off...and this kid put himself in the top 5 smartest in the world haha...you're a fucken clown mate...

The smartest cunts are the inventors, scientists, doctors...the people you or I have probably never heard of...some fucken geek makin some revolutionary drug in his basement right now could be the greatest genius earth has ever created...Ancient cunts whose histories are still read today in a time where literature was neglected...To throw a current name up though...Stephen Hawking is beyond normality in intelligence...read some of that fellas theories...they'll get ya thinking...

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i'm not sure who you're referring to here. althogh agree, hitler was nowhere near one of the most intelligent people ever, he was still intelligent. And, as much as i hate the guy, he was actually an extremely talented and manipulative speaker. The ability to manipulate a huge crowd, let alone a previously free conutry is in fact a very important skill, and only the most intelligent people can do it (that was all he could do though really). It's also true that he woudl have been nothing witout his countrymen, germany would still be screwed now most likely if it wasn't for him kick starting their economy to prepare for war. Stephen Hawking is also very intelligent, but he's not one of the best. scientists world wide did a survey on the most influential scientists ever, and he did extrmely badly in it. he is well intelligent though, so i guess that's a good point.

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i guarantee shakespeare would lose in an IQ test against the majority of mensa

1. einstein
2. hitler was a fucked up genuis, but he still was one kinda
3. shakespeare, he was good at writin
4. abraham lincoln, he stops slavery
5. martin luther king, no more racism...

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Some of the most intelligent people in the world will tell you IQ tests are not a true measure of 'intelligence'. Especially in the field of arts-creativity.

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IQ tests. Limits they do have...

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2. Myself
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