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Old 11-30-05, 11:23 AM   #1
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technically no cos its very offensive as it is purely about their colour. Whereas ape isnt just about colour, its look

i wouldnt be bothered tho

I was just wondering, because they use it a lot in my area, but get really mad when I white person uses the "n-word".
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Old 11-30-05, 11:28 AM   #2
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ive never once heard cracker or honky used over here, but personally i cant see how cracker and honkey relates to our color and offending us???.... i mean, monkey/ape, majority of black people have nose's shaped like serina, and tend to have fuller lips, and then there is the skin color, thats where the words started being used to offend, n i feel too many people are ignorant to that fact, but cracker e.t.c..... how is that offensive to white people???? to me its just a slang word thats faster and easier to say than white person
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ive never once heard cracker or honky used over here, but personally i cant see how cracker and honkey relates to our color and offending us???.... i mean, monkey/ape, majority of black people have nose's shaped like serina, and tend to have fuller lips, and then there is the skin color, thats where the words started being used to offend, n i feel too many people are ignorant to that fact, but cracker e.t.c..... how is that offensive to white people???? to me its just a slang word thats faster and easier to say than white person




EXACTLY, because as far as I'm concerned, APE is not a synonym for Ugly. What it was, was a disrespect of Black/African features--i.e., broad/flat noses, full lips, and dark skin. I don't see Red Bull calling an "ugly" white person an APE. It's disrespectful, PERIOD.
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Old 11-30-05, 01:01 PM   #4
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EXACTLY, because as far as I'm concerned, APE is not a synonym for Ugly. What it was, was a disrespect of Black/African features--i.e., broad/flat noses, full lips, and dark skin. I don't see Red Bull calling an "ugly" white person an APE. It's disrespectful, PERIOD.

I tried to find something to post from b-boys, but the site is still down. It was a picture of one of the text heads there, a white guy might I add, who really did look a lot like an ape. A line about that was even used in a battle against him.
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Old 11-30-05, 11:31 AM   #5
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..... how is that offensive to white people???? to me its just a slang word thats faster and easier to say than white person

Eh, it's regarded as a racial slur.
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Eh, it's regarded as a racial slur.


but how??? what exactly does it diss for it to offend us????
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Old 11-30-05, 11:59 AM   #7
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i'm offended...

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but ye lighten up a little...he prolly didn't mean it like that...but i can totally understand your view point Q coz i understand the history of the word and it is racial slur...but sometimes things are said out of context...it's good you pulled him up on it i think your points been made...and justifiably too...

some people think it's jus n***a that pisses black people off but if you understand the history of slavery and the shit that was said & done...i think Red Bull mighta chose his words differently...

thats my opinion...

^ my post reason...i'm neither here or there with this thread...but i can understand Q's view points...shouldn't of said it...but i think it's one of those type before you think posts...
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^^Yea well, unfortunately, people "type" and "do" before they think when it should count for more...

racism and ignorance has NO PLACE in modern society...


and yes, it is a rcial slur, whether he chose to use as such or not...that doesn't diminish the fact that it's a terrible choice of words coming from a white person's mouth.

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Red Bull don't argue with Tha Q on a serious tip, everyone knows Serena looks like an ape, so does Danny Glover and a few other people.

I'm black and I'll say it again, she does look like an ape. That is not being racist, so getting into the Ku Klux Klan has SHIT to do with him saying she look like an ape. She do. That's not a racist comment. The end.
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For the record, I think 50 Cent looks like a horse. A lot of white people say he looks like a gorilla, but that's only because they're stupid and think he's in the "Gorilla" Unit. Yeah, I just wanted to clear that up before any fingers got e-pointed at me for being racist.
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Old 11-30-05, 01:30 PM   #11
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For the record, I think 50 Cent looks like a horse. A lot of white people say he looks like a gorilla, but that's only because they're stupid and think he's in the "Gorilla" Unit. Yeah, I just wanted to clear that up before any fingers got e-pointed at me for being racist.


Naw 50 Cent looks like a chipmunk or gopher.... Jay Z looks like the Camel off the cigarette boxes.
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For some reason, I've always thought of Gary Coleman as a puppet.
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Be serious Red Bull. You would have never called he an ape if she weren't black. If you're trying to convince people otherwise, be serious man, who's gonna believe you when you don't even believe your excuse your self?

Weather you want to officially title your self as racist or what ever, that's on you, but what you said is fueled by race. You may think you love black people, and may sleep only on black sheets and all that other We are The World bullshit, but what you said is definitely racist.
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Old 12-01-05, 01:40 AM   #14
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^ No, it really wasn't. It was an opinion. If you can find me a picture of a white girl that has the same face as Mrs. Williams, I'd say the same thing..
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There goes your notion of "NO ONE ELSE AGREES WITH YOU Q"...wuts the excuse now?...I brainwashed them?...Shit is wrong dawg...

African (black) features typically consist of:

BROAD NOSE
DARK SKIN
TIGHTLY CURLED (nappy) HAIR
LARGE/FULL LIPS


Serena has a typical black/African nose = broad...

She has dominant features, such as a a prominent face = African features

Redbull...you obviously ARE NOT attractive to those AFRICAN features = FINE

HOWEVER, to say "Serena looks like an APE" is racist because it's not a RIP on her being UGLY, it's a RIP on AFRICAN/BLACK features which is RACIST.

The word is rooted in hate and bigotry. Therefore, anyone who uses it is invoking the spirit of that hate.


Just accept it dawg. No one here is blatantly calling you a racist. But, what you said was racial and it was inappropriate. Most white people DO NOT have African/BLACK features...That makes sense...They're EUROPEAN!

Just admit that you think she's unattractive = OKAY, but that you used a bad chose of words to convey that. THis thread will be done with. UNtil then, more people are going to tell you the SAME DAMN THING. IT WAS WRONG.PERIOD.
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