i will show you some of the meanings... hold up

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will: here... i have to do this quickly, so it is hardly in-depth, but you know.

[Canibus]
Yo, why is the ripper so ill?
That would be a unpardonable breach of confidence for me to reveal!
He said one day all eyes would be on me
when they look up in the sky and see the neon 'C'
Rhymes inscribed on a nickel disk encased
in glass with an ion beam for longevity
For more then 10 centuries, impressions and memories
the first time-machine inventor will mention me
Canibus was a visionary indeed
he believed light could travel in multiples of c
The organic supercomputer that solved the mysteries
of Klein-Kaluza with 2 blue metric rulers
----that shit is ill, if you know what it actually means.
Liked Cool J, but thought Stephen Jay Gould was cooler
and he never liked to propagate rumors
Smoked Canary Island cigars
liked America, luxury cars and beautiful Asian broads
He had a strong mind, he used to philosophize
about rhymes while he was pruning his Bonsai
He claimed that he had written the greatest rhyme of all time
but he would never take it out his archives
He wrote 2 songs per day
and was constantly was experimenting with his wordplay
In his youth he did a report on the Sloan Digital Sky survey
he got an F but he deserved an A
---again, dope, if you know the reference.
I followed his career from the first day
it seemed the lack of support contributed to his inert ways
I seen him pull in 24 hour workdays
with deferred pay, undeterred by the word "shame"
Public humiliation was the worst pain
he was spinnin out of control like a class 5 hurricane
He said he wouldnt want another emcee to suffer the same
especially when there's nothing to gain
He was the illest alive but nobody would face it
he spit till his toungue was too torched to taste, it
properly funded corporations carbon-dated his latest creations
to extract the information
They found it utterly amazing
they claimed the body of his work was the same thing as a priceless painting
Never mattered to him, the art galleries hated him
cause Thomas Kinkade called, said he would take 10
---Right here, in just this small section, it starts talking about his experiences with the music industry. By the way, that Thomas Cincaid line is ill.
Complete enigmas wrapped in puzzles encrypted in language
with sound but without shape or signature
Kept files in his garage, on MS-DOS
in a fire-proof pod, he thought it was odd
Outside there was a shed with an Oppenheimer lock
he apparently kept more wax then Madame Tussaud's
We were in total awe, cause it blew our minds
so many rhymes that were intricately designed
He WAS Poet Laureate of his time
and if you dont mind, I'd like to share some of his rhymes

[*beat switches*]

Alone in my room, looking thru the 32X telescope zoom
adjusting the focus of the moon
One should not assume the philosophy of David Hume
is nothing more then a subjective conclusion
What is the maximum field rate application?
the run away glaciation surrounding the ocean basin
affects the population fluctuation
on a continuous basis but that's just the basics
The juxtaposition of Canibus' position
the precision something no other has written
Way above and beyond what was intended
the unparalleled malleable enunciation of a sentence
You didnt go to college obviously
I can tell by your ungodly unintelligible terminology
A remarkable odyssey, the rhymes of modern speeds
when the brain orders the body not to breathe
Your competency is not up to speed, you not in my league
you couldnt possibly be hotter than me
Or oppositely you're minus 25 degrees, you'd squeeze
but the condensation makes rifle barrels freeze
Allow me to speak figuratively, nigga please
my intellectual properties are about the size of Greece
Your counselor advised you not to speak
my counselor advised me to keep rhymin until they stopped the beat
In the words of Joseph Heller, "I learned how to write better"
even though it sort of irked me
He said he didnt understand the process of the imagination
but he felt he was at its mercy
Which exploits my point perfectly and certainly reinforces
the reason why nobody's probably ever heard of me
Couldnt understand what I mean by ill
unless you try to translate what I print to film
This is the line of will, the circle of time
the cycle of eternity, the emergence of 1 line
Academic phonetics render critics tounge-tied
Ive personified dry humor of cum-laude alumni
A wise man sees failure as progress
a fool divorces his knowledge and misses the logic
And loses his soul in the process
obsessed with nonsense with a caricature that has no content
My style is masterful, multi-lateral
I could battle a fool and be naturally cruel
Words of scourn are a disasterous tool
from an existentialist view, I'm a better rapper then you
Grab the mic and rip your physical fabric in 2
my attitude is fucked up but admirable
Different methods interpreted into different forms
from entirely different perceptions and seen from different norms
Not just spittin a poem there's much more involved
there's much more pieces of the puzzle for you to solve
48 orders of mechanical laws
and rays of creational cause, enhance the cadence of my bars
Maybe I am self-absorbed
but thats the effect, to find the cause you should ask my A&R
Today is what it is, but only because yesterday was what it was
permitting you heard of Beelzebub
A tale of demons and drugs, pissy drunk in the club
with the DJ doing the needle rub
Chances are you'll never see me son
yeah I know my names Canibus but I cant help you if you need a dub
---that whole verse was dope, if you understand him.

[*beat switches*]

I came to holla at some big booty bitches
and listen to the speakers thump, where you get conceited from?
Im so nice on the mic, they wanna beat me up
its deep as fuck, I aint seen it all but I've seen enough
Really unbelievable stuff
theres a lot of times where I wanna speak but I'm stuck
---He is speaking on the release of his album... he went to a party and got attacked by some other rappers. In the second part he's talking about censorship.
I should leave this rap shit alone
and kick my incredible in rhymes in the privacy of my own home
My imagination is my own
the liberty to speak to freely, lividly on the microphone
Wit a pen in my hand, I bring motion to the enneagram
and become "Cani-millenium man"
Engrave my back with the emperor's stamp
been spittin scientific rap since the 17th century began
Tryna' escape the wicked empire of Def Jam
and the land where lyrics are bland and heretics hang
Every warrior has an axe to bury
but he has to learn to discern between enemy and adversary
---What was that about him never mentioning Def Jam? Its not even a metaphor here, he straight up calls them a wicked empire. The second part is about his "beef" with eminem.
I said to myself, "Germaine this is insane
its suicide its controlled flight into terrain"
I fought to regain, control of the plain, but went up in a ball of flames
and got banned from the hip hop hall of fame
For 2 bars I kept hearin in my head
over and over again, it cost me everything

[*beat changes back to the original beat*]

Im convinced now that more then truth is at stake
Where people create language that pretends to communicate
Euphemisms are misundertood as mistakes
but its a bi-product of the ghetto music we make
From an extroverted point of view I think its too late
Hip Hop has never been the same since '88
Since it became a lucrative profession there's a misconception
that a movement in any direction is progression
Even though of the potency of it lessens
big money industries writing checks to suppress the question
And nobody gives a fuck no more, no one goes to the book store
ever since the confluence of Moore's Law
But I stay in the lab, like Niels Bohr
and his son Aage, Edward Lorenz and Leo Szilard
Lyrically I took rap music and turned the knob
to the right full throttle and added panache
Why would I argue with my own conscience over the truth?
thats like me telling myself dont tell me what to do
Dialyses and analyses of battle emcees
sometimes I say things I myself can't believe
My lyrical is so skillfully elliptical
I can understand how it makes you miserable
You wonder why I never let you play your beats for me
or why I keep my studio enshrouded in secrecy
You wonder what's my infatuation with Alicia Keys
"Canibus why dont you speak to me?"
Yo, I meant it when I said no one can shine on a song that features me
thats why I said it so vehemently
You need to place the hate with respect
I'm probably the best yet, Poet Laureate!!!

thats all i have time for... but pretty much every line has a meaning of the same kind.

Granted, it is definitely NOT aimed at your average audience. Probably without looking things up people wouldnt understand a lot of the song. But if you can comprehend all the meanings, all the ill wordplay, and all the concepts, it is a very deep song.

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like I said, the song isnt wack. lyrically its nice, but its not deep.
3 sides to a story - Joe Budden is deep.
Whatever it takes - Joe Budden is deep
Poet Laureate -Canibus is not deep.

and did someone "attack him" physically or lyrically"?
cos if he was attacked lyrically, and he claims he got stuck, then thats a damn shame
and he was attacked physically and he didnt rip off their hands with the crown still attached to it, thats a shame

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Maybe we're talking different "deeps" here. I mean deep as in the song has a lot of hidden meanings and the experiences he is talking about are emotionally moving. The actual lyrics in the song are "deep."

Maybe you mean deep like immortal technique's dance with the devil? Its just a story, but its very well told. Theres no underlying meanings and hardly any wordplay, the meaning of the words is apparent. What makes songs like that deep is the themes being addressed and the events that take place.

I havent heard those budden joints, but they sound like they would be the second kind of "deep" that I mentioned, when with canibus, im talking about the first.

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WTF @ saying that canibus song has no meaning... shit is deeper than any other song ever.

I wrote a damn essay on that song, and it was long...

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So because you wrote an essay on a song, that makes it the "deepest" song ever? Dawg, that logic doesn't add up. I'm sure you love the song, but writing an essay doesn't qualify it as the best "deep" song ever.

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Youtube Video for my song "CARRY ON"

No.. He said that cause it literally is one of the deepest songs ever written..

Anyone who ACTUALLY is an authority on hip hop and understands what this song is about would say the same thing...

This is right up there on the same level with "Immortal Technique - You never know" and "Common - I used to love H.E.R."...

If you say different.. YOUR NOT HIP HOP....

You're a 19 year old skinny white guy from Australia
lmfao, YOU'RE NOT HIP HOP ALREADY

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I'm more hip hop than your try hard wanksta ass...


Well I call em rappers (you know, the guys who are actually In the game and not at the sidelines making opinions).. And aint it funny how all the dope rappers NEVER do/did tracks with Jay Z... Except biggie... But he was signed to a label with one of the wackest rappers in the game (puffy)....

Your whole perspective of jay Z being dope is jus funny to me... Its cause your a fan and you got a real case of seeing past serious short commings cause you idolise this cunt....

authority on hip hop?

Spare me son

Those same "authorities" consider Jay Z to be one of the greatest rappers of all time.

You can't have it both ways Nos.

Either respect what the "authorities" say, or don't.


BTW, I call those "authorities" critics.

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Youtube Video for my song "CARRY ON"

I have listened to a lot of songs in my time. Its maybe not the deepest in its subject matter, but I mean deep as in meanings.

The way he used historical figures, and other dope shit as allusions in wordplay, ive never seen in another song. Even the songs the beats were sampled from mean something.

Im not saying because I was able to write an essay on it, its a deep song. Anybody could write an essay on anything. Im saying its a deep song, because it is.

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^^^Exactly, anyone can write an "essay" on anything. That doesn't validate its importance. Also, calling something "deep" is relative son. I haven't actually heard the song so I wouldn't know. But, what I do know is that education levels and experience can dictate what one perceives as "deep" or not. I'm not suggesting anything about your education level. I'm merely suggesting that someone who isn't worldly would think mundane things are "amazing".



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Youtube Video for my song "CARRY ON"

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And this doesent even scrape the fucking icing off this song.. There is so much to the song that you wouldnt understand if your a naieve ass cat that only likes hearing dumb shit about "hustlin and poppin caps, rings, rims" and other bullshit that average ass clowns like Joe Budden rap about...

You can call me un-intelligent.. But its pretty clear you got no idea what your talkin bout when it comes to hip hop.. I repeat.. Stop talkin buddy..

BLAH
I did what you did
I schemed through the song
it was majority NERD RAP. He spits less then 20 bars out of 1000 and all of a sudden the song has meaning
and that snatch the crown punch wasnt the one
it was the get the mic off LL COOL J's arm punch
see, and PLEASE you cant go on ANY OTHER SITE and talk like this.
too bad RV is filled with a bunch of white teenagers I cant get anyone to back me up.
regardless, Joe Budden DOESNT rap about the stupid shit you're sayin he raps about.
And sayin he does shows how much you dont know what real hip hop is

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also
talkin about Joe Budden raps about shit that he CLAIM he doesnt do, what about Canibus?

I am the illest nigga alive, watch me prove it / I'll snatch ya crown with ya head still attached to it

wow, do you honestly think Canibus would rip off anyone's head?!
I just thought of a name for the type of rappers canibus is
Murder Rap
eminem used to be murder rap
ICP is murder rap
Cage is murder rap
blah
ionno
Im not a fan of murder rap, because its aimless

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