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Old 03-23-06, 02:19 PM   #1
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Funny, that's not what the bible says.

Now, Po Eti, why would I call someone ignorant?

hmmm...Go figure.
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Old 03-23-06, 02:20 PM   #2
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Show me one spot in the Bible where it says it's not a sin.
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Old 03-23-06, 02:22 PM   #3
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Why would I show you what you don't believe in anyway? According to you, God is a false figure.


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Ignorance is not even bliss, it's ridiculous.
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Old 03-23-06, 02:23 PM   #4
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I used to belive in it, I've read the Bible twice.

It's anti gay.

You dont' know what you're talking about.
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Old 03-23-06, 02:26 PM   #5
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I used to belive in it, I've read the Bible twice.

It's anti gay.

You dont' know what you're talking about.



ahhhhhhhhh OF COURSE you "used to" believe in God. How did I know that? I knew that when you referred to God as capital "G"od. The bible is as much anti-gay as it is anti-lying, anti-drinking, anti-fornicating, anti-pride, anti-lust, and about 10000 other antis. So, again, I tell you, IGNORANCE is bliss.

You read the bible twice and gave up huh. I wonder what caused you to turn your back on God.
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Old 03-23-06, 02:29 PM   #6
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Before I was 15..

Lost 8 family members, parents divorced, kicked out of my house.

Felt like Job in a way, if you even know how that is..
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Old 03-23-06, 02:31 PM   #7
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Before I was 15..

Lost 8 family members, parents divorced, kicked out of my house.

Felt like Job in a way, if you even know how that is..



How wut is, serving God? Working? Yea, I know how those are...

Funny...you lose all those things but still have the use of your mind to articulate you. You survived. To me, that's one cause to question why you're pretending God is some figment.

eh eh

Anyway...don't kid yourself bro. God, nor the bible, spends that much time denouncing gayness. There are 2-3 scriptures and that's it. Sin is sin. I can, however, find 100000000 scriptures that talk about how God hates PRIDE.

^^^^Let's get on that.

ANyway...I gotta go


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Old 03-23-06, 03:36 PM   #8
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Anyway...don't kid yourself bro. God, nor the bible, spends that much time denouncing gayness. There are 2-3 scriptures and that's it. Sin is sin. I can, however, find 100000000 scriptures that talk about how God hates PRIDE.

^^^^Let's get on that.

ANyway...I gotta go


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Not that I have a view on the Bible's take on homosexuality, but to be correct, your bible states that your "God" burned two entire cities and everyone in them alive and turned sympathisers into "pillars of salt". These cities were Sodom and Gamorah, populated by homosexuals and "the wicked". As a matter of fact, all of Genesis 18 and 19 discusses your "God's" disposition vehemently against homosexuality as does huge portions of Leviticus just to name a few. I don't know where you got this "2-3 scriptures" that you claim, seeing that the bible speaks against homosexuality no less than 100 times. Here's a few "quotables" from your Bible:

Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Leviticus 20:13 " 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.


Genesis 19:3
But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them (the two Angels sent to destroy the cities of Sodom and Gamorah), baking bread without yeast, and they ate. 4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."

Genesis: 19:12
The two men (previously called "Angels" sent to destroy the city) said to Lot, "Do you have anyone else here—sons-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here, 13 because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the LORD against its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it."

Leviticus 18:22 'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

Genesis 19:24 Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the LORD out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, including all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land. 26 But Lot's wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt

The "Bible" justifies to it self and it's readers everything from gay bashing, to murder, to torture, human and animal sacrifice, barbarianism, cannibalism, taking, owning and selling slaves, supremacy, incest, and even wife beating and female inferiority.

And this is the book you're holding on to for your salvation? The same book that says it's okay to take your life?

Proceed with caution young man. Everything is not what it would seem.
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Old 03-23-06, 03:50 PM   #9
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interesting discussions going on in here.

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Not that I have a view on the Bible's take on homosexuality, but to be correct, your bible states that your "God" burned two entire cities and everyone in them alive and turned sympathisers into "pillars of salt". These cities were Sodom and Gamorah, populated by homosexuals and "the wicked". As a matter of fact, all of Genesis 18 and 19 discusses your "God's" disposition vehemently against homosexuality as does huge portions of Leviticus just to name a few. I don't know where you got this "2-3 scriptures" that you claim, seeing that the bible speaks against homosexuality no less than 100 times. Here's a few "quotables" from your Bible:

Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Leviticus 20:13 " 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.


Genesis 19:3
But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them (the two Angels sent to destroy the cities of Sodom and Gamorah), baking bread without yeast, and they ate. 4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."

Genesis: 19:12
The two men (previously called "Angels" sent to destroy the city) said to Lot, "Do you have anyone else here—sons-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here, 13 because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the LORD against its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it."

Leviticus 18:22 'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

Genesis 19:24 Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the LORD out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, including all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land. 26 But Lot's wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt

The "Bible" justifies to it self and it's readers everything from gay bashing, to murder, to torture, human and animal sacrifice, barbarianism, cannibalism, taking, owning and selling slaves, supremacy, incest, and even wife beating and female inferiority.

And this is the book you're holding on to for your salvation? The same book that says it's okay to take your life?

Proceed with caution young man. Everything is not what it would seem.

^word to those quotes tho.


and Apexx, just out of curiousity, what religion are you? j/w.. my bad if you said it before in this thread, I didn't go thru all the posts.
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interesting discussions going on in here.


^word to those quotes tho.


and Apexx, just out of curiousity, what religion are you? j/w.. my bad if you said it before in this thread, I didn't go thru all the posts.


It's cool, I understand the curiosity. I used to be an adamant catholic in my teenage years, but then I actually read the Bible cover to cover and thats when things changed. The more you know of the "whole story", the less things add up and you find your self saying "wow, so if this is true..that would mean that was false??" - and both of these things are within the bible. As fractions and short-sight they seem like a functional idoligy, but in totality, they're disjointed and conflicting.

To aide our grasp for information I'll try to frame the following statement in a context that we're all used to: The only works that I've seen that contains whole truths are the gilgamesh epics and the enuma elish - both of which are over 10,000 years older than even the Bible and other story books similar to it. Neither the giglamesh epics nor the enuma elish say or imply "this is how you should live your life" and "do this but not that". They're both objective accounts of history from the first civilizations on the planet and tie EVERYTHING (and I mean EVERYTHING!) together. For the first time in my life, everything made perfect sense. These are the works that you will find all these Religious Story Books take their concepts from and twist in their own perspective and label it as their people's "story of creation". Even the word "god", "God" and "GOD" all come from these scrolls and is actually an acroynm of three words.

I guess this is the closest way I can squeeze what I know into the concept of "a person and their beliefs" into a digestable 'statement for the masses' though it is actually the exact opposite of that.
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Not that I have a view on the Bible's take on homosexuality, but to be correct, your bible states that your "God" burned two entire cities and everyone in them alive and turned sympathisers into "pillars of salt". These cities were Sodom and Gamorah, populated by homosexuals and "the wicked". As a matter of fact, all of Genesis 18 and 19 discusses your "God's" disposition vehemently against homosexuality as does huge portions of Leviticus just to name a few. I don't know where you got this "2-3 scriptures" that you claim, seeing that the bible speaks against homosexuality no less than 100 times. Here's a few "quotables" from your Bible:

Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Leviticus 20:13 " 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.


Genesis 19:3
But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them (the two Angels sent to destroy the cities of Sodom and Gamorah), baking bread without yeast, and they ate. 4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."

Genesis: 19:12
The two men (previously called "Angels" sent to destroy the city) said to Lot, "Do you have anyone else here—sons-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here, 13 because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the LORD against its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it."

Leviticus 18:22 'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

Genesis 19:24 Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the LORD out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, including all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land. 26 But Lot's wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt

The "Bible" justifies to it self and it's readers everything from gay bashing, to murder, to torture, human and animal sacrifice, barbarianism, cannibalism, taking, owning and selling slaves, supremacy, incest, and even wife beating and female inferiority.

And this is the book you're holding on to for your salvation? The same book that says it's okay to take your life?

Proceed with caution young man. Everything is not what it would seem.


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Old 03-23-06, 03:15 PM   #12
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I've had enough of this thread for one day. My head hurts.
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Old 03-23-06, 03:20 PM   #14
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for the ppl who dont belive all i can say is this .....How do you know Gerorge Washington was real? Answer: Because of the books point blank period.... Have You Seen George Washington in person? I havent lol so how u know he's a real person ....so how can one say god aint real and george washington is ?
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for the ppl who dont belive all i can say is this .....How do you know Gerorge Washington was real? Answer: Because of the books point blank period.... Have You Seen George Washington in person? I havent lol so how u know he's a real person ....so how can one say god aint real and george washington is ?


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