Also if your so indept in the bible. The rigth quick answer me these two questions.

1. How man wise men was there.

2. What was the fruit that adam and eve was forbidden to eat

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I remember Serbness bring up Jesus not being crucified on the cross but on a
tree and everyone jumped on his nuts !! telling him to STFU,,...

I can see how it could be used as a Metaphor, when his hands and feet where
nailed to the tree/cross he was suspended in the air *hanged up* as Q said
like a picture.

Why would the Bible use a metaphor in discussing how their savior was killed? If that's the case, you could argue that EVERYTHING in the bible is a metaphor and open for interpretation, like th10 commandments, the story of creation, God is a metaphor, and on and on.

That's the convenient side-step for those who don't want to know any answers and they don't want ot ask any questions. They're happy being brainwashed with bullshit.

More power to em.

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People told Serbness to stfu because he was talking about Jesus being possessed by demons or something.

^^that's nice, but I dont' see what serbness has to do with anything.

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Also i believe the bible was written before lynching or hanging people by their neck was ever even though of. And lyching were not done back in those days if i can remember my history correctly. So how can jesus be hung by his neck if the punishment was never even thought before.

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The information about the Three Kings could be right. Cuz it dosent exactly say how many. People have come to the conclusion that there are 3 kings that came to see baby Jesus. Even once i beleive that there was three kings. And yes i do beleive people knew how to strangle people by they're weight. And now that i think about it. I forgot the name butsomeone did Hang themselves from tree in a bible allthought im pretty sure it was not Jesus. But it was someone close to Jesus possibely one of his deciples. Do not quote me on this cuz im not 100 % sure. It may be the guy that hung himself that was close to Jesus that your talking about. I will have to look it up.

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What are you talking about, I'm not saying anybody close to Jesus hung themself lmao. I'm talking about hangings in history.

Damn, I know somebody don't know what they're talkin about when they cant' even remember their damn argument lmao

but keep on poring those "ifs" and "I think" and "I'm not sure" and "If I remember correctly"'s on there man.

But come through with some facts that you researched more than one location and took the first counter argument/explaination as fact. I'm a few steps further than that lol. "Layers beneath layers" son.

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Im talking about your beginning argument talking about Jesus Hanging himself from tree. And why are you pointing out the obvious. I even said i was not a 100% sure and i need to go back and look up on it some more. I also said i did not know everything about the bible and Im only a christian that dosent study the bible but take heed on its information and lessons. But I am sure Jesus Did Not( and you can quote me on this) Did not hang himself from a tree. Yesterday I asked My pastor that is highly annointed in the word of the bible and a few of his staff in the pull pit, and other church members and who study the bible that are in bible study classes as well as the teacher of the bible class. All have said that Jesus was not hung from the tree but was hung from the cross. The crosses you see of today are romanticized versions of the actual cross. The Cross indeed was a tree that has been shaped up in the form of a cross with heavy thick branches. And was nailed to the cross(shaped up tree) and hung there. I showed my Pastor the conversation and even he says you are still miss interpreting the information. And says that you need to speak with your pastor about it instead of argueing with people on rap website about your subject. And if you still fail to see it then you are blind. You cannot show a blindman the world and you can not tell one that is deaf the truth. So pretty much there is no point in really arguing your origial argument with you. Either your accept the information or you dont. Plain and simple. Either this thread was ment for you to find answers to a question or it was ment for bible bashing. Your choice.

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"The God of our fathers raised Jesus from the dead—whom you had killed by hanging him on a tree."

You're arguing me about the exact same thing I said since I started this thread.


And for the record, your pastor can SAAAAAYYYYYYYYY what ever he'd like. Tell him to refference some passages we can R-E-A-D as independant people for our selves, instead of going to the brainwashing center to listen to more TALK.

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BTW, I'll humor you and say that the the cross is a tree - The bible states that jesus carried this cross through the town. You're telling me that he carried a TREE big enough to hold him high above in the air?

I'm not trying to prove one side or another. In fact, you could argue one and I will still show you the supporting arguments of the other side to consider. The point is that they contradict, as we can all see, since we all have conflicting points of views.

Therefore the bible can not possibly be 100% true.



But seperate from that it's..still funny that you're CONVINCED that the cross was a tree - though the Bible dosent' ever say that. Wait, weren't you just saying that people run off on a tangent and believe information that the Bible never states, jsut because other people perpetuate it, like the amount of wise men argument you just made a few posts up?


Now THAT'S "Irony" lmao.

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There is information other than the bible apon the events that has happened in the bible. Over thousands of documents. In Rome historical facts, egypt, its not just in the bible.

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But if you beleive the bible current day edition is not 100% true and some it has been altered. Then yes i do agree with you. i have a bible from 1967. And It says things that are hard to understand but a lil bit different from todays bible refferences.

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Re-read my last post.



yay.

Once again man, The Bible or ANY religious book does not contain "all the answers". Unless you don't ask questions.

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I never really thought much of it... I mean, the cross is made of wood from a tree, and he hung on it.

But I guess that's what everyone else has been saying. The bible has a lot of contradictions and wierd things in it, but I dont think this is one of them.

Its like if I made a thread saying "In the bible, it says jesus was a man... BUT! The bible also refers to jesus as a lamb. So is jesus a lamb, or a man?"

Some things you pick at, but other things you just kind of have to go "oh yeah" and give it a bit of leeway because of language barriers and other references etc.

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