well lets see, didn't you host a fixed tourney where you gave out the prize long before the tourney was even over?


didn't you lie about countless members on this board?

didn't you lie about you about to be in The Source magazine?



so in that case, I'd say...EVERYBODY here is more honest than you.

fuckin dumbass lmao, you can't be serious.

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Q's response: 'It's just the net.'

Q's former posts: 'OYD IS THE FUTURE. OYD IS AWESOME. WE RULE THE SONGS FORUM. NO ONE CAN STEP UP.'

Face it, people on the net are still real human beings even if they are talking to you electronically. It's the same as talking to someone on a phone. They are people with real emotions, but since you won't gain anything out of being a nice honest christian, you decide instead that you would rather manipulate people.

Your response?

Some idiotic statement addressing about one point, followed by 'case closed'.

Your argument routine is quite predictable. Here is where you begin to lose your composure and resort to name-calling tactics to boost your ego, whereas the arguments themselves are moot. Furthermore, unlike you, I don't go to bed with a smug smile on my face thinking I made myself look good in a net-argument.

You have no point.

Wait, this is your point:

"Q, even though I claim to not like you, I constantly used to IM you asking for your opinion, even though I'm contradicting myself now by calling you an idiot."


^^Bro, go to www.nerds.com if you want to sound intelligent. I'm not impressed.

Typing 2 responses before I even type one doesn't give credibility to anything you utter (type).

I repeat the same argument over and over because I have to continuously tell you the same thing. I'm not losing my composure, every single insult I say is true.



So, tell me, how is my argument falling apart? Also, address my post above.
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And I've already explained I'm fucking around with you when getting your opinion.

I don't believe in hell.
I don't care if the Terminator movies don't make sense.

You think I have no point? Go to a random forum, direct them to this thread, and see whose side they take. Your points rely on constantly believing I care about your opinion just because I ask you random questions on AIM.

Q, this is you in a nutshell:

You gain nothing from making friends on the net. So you manipulate them. While still calling yourself a true christian.

And so you attempt to discredit me by pointing out I made two posts. That just proves, net or not, I actually give a detailed debate and don't throw around nonsense terms like ad hominem just to try and make it look like I have credibility. Did I ever say posted two posts before you posted one gives me any credibility? Keep on making stuff up, Q.

Are you that dumb?

Kid, once I click the "X", YOU don't exist anymore...RV doesn't exist anymore...Apexx, the LL, the songs forum, NONE of it exists anymore. I go on and do my thing. When I get back in the house, and open my net browser, then RV exists again for entertainment value. Granted, the i-net is no different from a phone convo, hence, a person can still get pissed off. But, truth be told, this shit doesn't affect my life. When I sign off, I still have money in my pocket and the bank, a family that loves me, a career, a growing education, God on my side, and so much more...So, I couldn't care less what someone's--who happens to have their own issues--opinion is of me.

Also, come on now...the thread about The Source was a joke. If I was trying to impress someone, why would I come out 1 day later and say it wasn't true? No. I do the opposite of what you accuse me of. I DON'T try to impress people. I like to mirror behavior and show people just how they act. No one on this site is all that bro, IMO. I value and respect certain people. But, that's as far as it goes. I don't come on RV to benchmark anyone. Why? No one on RV has achieved anything that I'm striving for.

So, again, why don't you put my name on ignore and be done with me if youi have so much of a problem. That's very simple.

I've never asked for your opinion, and probably never will. Why?

*remembers momma's old adage: If you don't have anything nice to say...*

LOL @ u summarizing "Q" in a nutshell, when Q is a persona.


dumb ass

My name is Michael Angelo Lesane.

Bro...I think you've confused the net for real life.

If not, here's you in a "nutshell"

A kid who feels self-important by trying to outwit people who are smarter than he is.

OOPS

pssf

Pssf. Momma's old adage is bullshit, because without criticism America would not be an independent country, and bad writers would never become good writers, and rappers could never elevate. It was a joke, but an attention-seeking joke nevertheless.

Let's just be serious, Q. We're both humans. When we sign off the computer, we're humans. When we sign on, we're still humans. They cannot contribute to you positively if they become a friend --- actually, they can, aren't Tito and the rest of OYD your net pals? So instead you manipulate people by making them hate you. Which goes against, let's see, how many things in the Bible?

And don't try to call me a pagan because I brought up the Bible...because you know I've defended your homosexuality on several occasions, including LatinKitten. Speaking of LatinKitten, you may want to review your arguments with her and see how they apply to you.

Hades isn't a persona because I realize that, net or not, people are people and there is no reason hiding how you truly are behind an alias. Really, how much has OYD done for you? If you actually acted like the real Michael, there would be more Titos and other friends to give you feedback on songs and whatnot.



Mind if I use this phrase as well?

Ad hominem.

1st off, wut does feedback on my songs have to do with anything? I get more feedback and views on my tracks than damn near everyone in the songs forum...So, your point is...?

And, bro, come come now...NO ONE, NO ONE is exactly the same on the net as they are in real life...The very nature of the net (anonymity) contributes to that fact. I'm not talking about a drastic change of personality. I'm talking about people not knowing the full you on an i-net site. Truth is, no one on this site knows me, or how I really am, except CHO.

Furthermore, I don't need you to defend my "homosexuality". I know the bible and what it says not only about homosexuality, but about every other issue that faces humans in life. So, again, your point is...?

Manipulate people? Good way to take what I said about MYSELF and act like you're psycho-analyzing me...Nice try. I'm real. You get the good with the bad and the ugly. When I'm in a great mood, you know it. When I'm in a shitty mood, you know it. I can't play poker, sorry.

So, again, your point is...

PS...Keep Tito's name out your mouth. You must love to talk about OYD members.

<<< is still wondering.

You got it, I love talking about OYD members. I wish I could videotape every single one of them at once, but I guess I'll have to settle for stalking one at a time.

My point for the homosexuality thing is that I am not a full-out Q hater...it's not like I have some contempt for you brewing inside of me and it influences all of my actions..but when you do stupid shit, I point it out. Yes, I do the same stupid shit, but I'm not talking about myself, I'm talking about you.

Feedback is just an example. You get more from friends than from enemies, depending on what you want. You could get a friend to help you with something, just as you would call up a friend and ask them for something.



Come on now, I'm the same on the net as off. I joke around a lot, and yes, I manipulate people. I'm not talking with robots, I'm talking about people with opinions and emotions and feelings, just like my neighbors next door. So why not treat people on the net like you would a neighbor? I'm not psycho-analyzing you, I'm pointing out that you manipulate people if they can't do anything for you, when that clearly goes against quite a few teachings of your own religion.

Those are my points. Do I need to explain more? We take the net at different levels, and anonymity or not, I don't hide behind a mask because I don't feel the need to.

lmfao @ this fuckin thread.

Since u want to hop on psycho-analysis, you're projecting right now...any negative behavior is a "mask"...So, whether or not ur hiding behind it is irrelevant...You wear one occasionally. So, your point is...?

Treat people on the net the way I want to be treated? I do. I just struggle being kind to assholes.

Sorry...But, when someone IMs me randomly and says, "UR A FAGGOT", I'm more likely than not to avoid that person. I know they have something better to do...maybe not...But, even so, I help more people than help me on the "net"...I listen to people's issues and help them with problems, when they are GENUINE and come to me like a real person.

Iono bro...I think you have the net and real life somewhat warped.

And, I still don't know WTH ur talking about with all the "friends" talk. I have friends I can call when I need whatever.

k.

Nah, nothing warped...

the net = real people from real life coming together.

But whatever, okay, you're nice when people are nice. Good enough for me. Case closed.

On occasion, I'm nice even when people aren't nice...I try hard to apply that biblical principle as much as possible. Yea, I struggle with that one...But, o well...I'm human.


Well, yea, the net is "real people" coming together...But, the very nature of the net allows people to say things and not be held accountable for their words. So, in a since, it's a bit of an illusion.


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