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Old 09-27-06, 09:20 PM   #46
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Obviously..

You wernt you during those periods either..

You didnt know your name, you couldnt communicate for shit you had no memories stored, no ideas about life, no common sense, no defining aspects of your personality.....

Your a blank canvus...

Your real self shines much later in life when you are full grown.

Thats what growing up is all about, finding and developing yourself...


That would mean you arent you right now, either. With your logic, the only time you are really you is the split second before you die.
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Old 09-27-06, 09:25 PM   #47
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That would mean you arent you right now, either. With your logic, the only time you are really you is the split second before you die.

Well ofcourse people usually stay in constant development throughout their lives.

But there is a point where you begin refining yourself more so than finding yourself.
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Old 09-27-06, 09:28 PM   #48
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What if you get amnesia?

So you're saying that your Self is basically a bunch of dynamic memories that keep changing until you die?

If thats the real you, then who is it that's contemplating that self from an external standpoint?
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What if you get amnesia?

So you're saying that your Self is basically a bunch of dynamic memories that keep changing until you die?

If thats the real you, then who is it that's contemplating that self from an external standpoint?

Are you saying life is not dynamic and in constant change?
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Old 09-27-06, 09:31 PM   #50
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No, the "self" is in constant change, but not the true self.

But I did say a lot of questions that you conveniently ignored.
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No, the "self" is in constant change, but not the true self.

But I did say a lot of questions that you conveniently ignored.

Ok then wiseguy..

What is your 'true' self?
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Old 09-27-06, 09:34 PM   #52
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Ok then wiseguy..

What is your 'true' self?


I'll answer your questions when you answer mine, especially the last one.
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If thats the real you, then who is it that's contemplating that self from an external standpoint?

Its not comming from an external standpoint...

My memories tell me I've thought about this before and this was my conclusion.


Now answer my question.
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Old 09-27-06, 09:42 PM   #54
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I'm getting to that.

Well then when you did think about it, who was thinking about it? And dont say it was the self you've been talking about.

And as you think about who was thinking about it, who's doing that?

And now that i've said that, who is that fourth you thinking about all the others?
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I'm getting to that.

Well then when you did think about it, who was thinking about it? And dont say it was the self you've been talking about.

And as you think about who was thinking about it, who's doing that?

And now that i've said that, who is that fourth you thinking about all the others?

I think there are higher elements to the human being than the self...

Thats whats 'thinking about it' and storing information into the memory banks that create my wordly self.
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Old 09-27-06, 09:47 PM   #56
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So there's two you's?

Why do you only concern yourself with the self that is the product of the other you? Isnt that other you "higher"?
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So there's two you's?

Why do you only concern yourself with the self that is the product of the other you? Isnt that other you "higher"?

No theres not two of me...

And a lot of thoughts in our thinking process we go through are majorly influenced by information, common sense and prejudices that exist in our memory.

But ofcourse I think its very plausable that theres more to it than that.


Now............what...........the fuck do you consider your 'self'?
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Old 09-27-06, 09:56 PM   #58
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No theres not two of me...

And a lot of thoughts in our thinking process we go through are majorly influenced by information, common sense and prejudices that exist in our memory.

But ofcourse I think its very plausable that theres more to it than that.


Now............what...........the fuck do you consider your 'self'?


Im not asking how you think, im asking who you are.

As it stands, you've said that there is your dynamic memory self (which is BS if you ask me), and there is something higher.

What is it thats higher?
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I'm carbon-based lifeform.
Made up of the building blocks of matter.
Created for a purpose in this so called life on Earth.
He who expresses true emotions and senses.
My conclusional perceptions are based on ones faith.
My faith resides with Catholicism.
I consider myself merely an abstract of life created to live and die.
My life is based on the perception of my thoughtwaves to the perception on my mind.
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Old 09-27-06, 09:59 PM   #60
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I'm carbon-based lifeform.
Made up of the building blocks of matter.
Created for a purpose in this so called life on Earth.
He who expresses true emotions and senses.
My conclusional perceptions are based on ones faith.
My faith resides with Catholicism.
I consider myself merely an abstract of life created to live and die.
My life is based on the perception of my thoughtwaves to the perception on my mind.


It must be very confusing being you!
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