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Old 09-03-08, 02:10 AM   #1
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fuck representative government

there's only one way to fix this nation, and that's to make the citizens law makers. (People actually count as One.)

instead our best hope is to get on the street with a picket sign, call up some buddies and drink beers as the time passes us by and nothing happens
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Old 09-03-08, 04:18 AM   #2
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Sooo umm.... i'm Canadian
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Old 09-03-08, 01:20 PM   #3
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fuck representative government

there's only one way to fix this nation, and that's to make the citizens law makers. (People actually count as One.)

instead our best hope is to get on the street with a picket sign, call up some buddies and drink beers as the time passes us by and nothing happens



fuck yeah 2v!!! Lets take 5 steps backwards and live in caves n fuck women with hair on their face's.


Get the fuck outta here with your whiny bitch bullshit....go post something else about the magnificent hurrican that is gonna whipe out the human race
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Old 09-03-08, 07:11 PM   #4
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fuck yeah 2v!!! Lets take 5 steps backwards and live in caves n fuck women with hair on their face's.


Get the fuck outta here with your whiny bitch bullshit....go post something else about the magnificent hurrican that is gonna whipe out the human race


Oh wow.

Just because I want everyone's vote to count as one instead of having a small amount of people represent everyone's vote in a small area, you think that'll bring us back to cave times ???

Uh, no, it would fix all of our problems. Because as it stands now, we can have a tie unless every single American votes against McCain and for your choice, Obama. If every super delegate votes for McCain then it will take almost every American to vote against McCain. Meaning that the courts will have to decide once more, and the election will once again be rigged. I mean, what's the point of having super delegates if they don't even represent the people? You can simply buy them off and they'll be like "I don't even really live in that area. Fuck those guys."

But I'm just pissed I had to explain that. No though, we'll go back to cave times. You're right. I'm so idiotic
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Old 09-03-08, 07:15 PM   #5
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Oh wow.

Just because I want everyone's vote to count as one instead of having a small amount of people represent everyone's vote in a small area, you think that'll bring us back to cave times ???

Uh, no, it would fix all of our problems. Because as it stands now, we can have a tie unless every single American votes against McCain and for your choice, Obama. If every super delegate votes for McCain then it will take almost every American to vote against McCain. Meaning that the courts will have to decide once more, and the election will once again be rigged. I mean, what's the point of having super delegates if they don't even represent the people? You can simply buy them off and they'll be like "I don't even really live in that area. Fuck those guys."

But I'm just pissed I had to explain that. No though, we'll go back to cave times. You're right. I'm so idiotic




wow, you and aphilly arn't the same person?
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Old 09-03-08, 07:54 PM   #6
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Oh wow.

Just because I want everyone's vote to count as one instead of having a small amount of people represent everyone's vote in a small area, you think that'll bring us back to cave times ???

Uh, no, it would fix all of our problems. Because as it stands now, we can have a tie unless every single American votes against McCain and for your choice, Obama. If every super delegate votes for McCain then it will take almost every American to vote against McCain. Meaning that the courts will have to decide once more, and the election will once again be rigged. I mean, what's the point of having super delegates if they don't even represent the people? You can simply buy them off and they'll be like "I don't even really live in that area. Fuck those guys."

But I'm just pissed I had to explain that. No though, we'll go back to cave times. You're right. I'm so idiotic



rofl


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Old 09-03-08, 10:46 AM   #7
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Old 09-03-08, 11:52 AM   #8
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Oh, and yes, there is a middle class. Stop watching Lou Dobbs for a few minutes and actually think about it.
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Old 09-03-08, 01:18 PM   #9
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Oh, and yes, there is a middle class. Stop watching Lou Dobbs for a few minutes and actually think about it.


ROFL.....sure there is. Sure, there...is.

Prove that point.
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Old 09-03-08, 01:21 PM   #10
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ROFL.....sure there is. Sure, there...is.

Prove that point.


Can you prove there is no middle class? The last time I checked, according to you, there WAS a middle class, which means you're making a claim that now there isn't. You're making the claim, which means the burden of proof is on you. It's not up to me to disprove every wild and asinine claim that comes out of Lou Dobb's retarded ass show.
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Can you prove there is no middle class? The last time I checked, according to you, there WAS a middle class, which means you're making a claim that now there isn't. You're making the claim, which means the burden of proof is on you. It's not up to me to disprove every wild and asinine claim that comes out of Lou Dobb's retarded ass show.



ROFL...i dont watch Lou Dobb's


I was just tryin to make the point that the middle class is shirnking....and if anything. It will be the downfall.
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Old 09-03-08, 01:26 PM   #12
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ROFL...i dont watch Lou Dobb's


I was just tryin to make the point that the middle class is shirnking....and if anything. It will be the downfall.


I only mentioned Lou Dobbs because I know he wrote a book about how he thinks the middle class is being pulled apart. I don't think it's really a problem right now though.

I don't even know how this shit got pulled in this direction. I said I didn't want to taxes to be raised, then I explained my point, then Mannie comes here rambling some bullshit and now we're here. Hahaha, oh well.
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okay Mimesis, if thats even your real name, you suppose that we try trickle down economics one more time? cuz, u know, thats worked SO well in the past, and thats basically your suggestion.... and why exactly do u expect unemployment to swing back to 5%, (and btw, someone who thinks unemployment, as you said, Should be anywhere but 0% has some serious problems) you think that it will just fix itself? that it will just go away? what great logic you have there, i must commend you

the reason the Palin pick makes McCain a bad pick for President is the simple fact that, ding ding ding, it reflects his Judgment... when he does a Huge bellyflop for his first Major decision, how can u expect him to make good ones after that? They had one actual conversation with her the day Before she gets chosen, and they say she was properly vetted? I dont know if its worse that she was taken with such haste, or the fact that they actually think she Wasnt taken with haste, either way it reflects really poorly...

and thank you for, u know, not actually responding to anything i said...

the woman wants to teach No Evolution, and only teach abstinence
... now i understand if she doesnt Believe in evolution, and in using contraception, but it should be taught to Everyone, even if it is suggested by teachers which they prefer...
oh yea, ms abstinence has a pregnant 17 year old unmarried daughter... but Oh no, thats not an issue..... the thing i hate is when i talk about her daughter, or anyone, we arent bashing the Daughter.... we are bashing Palin for not even being able to convince her own daughter of her beliefs and legislation....

btw, your Campaign Manager has been quoted saying that this election "is not about the issues" but its about the composite image of the candidates and who are perceived as better leaders.... thats one great thing to say, he doesnt think it gives a flying fuck what the people want as long as they can ride the "McCain is a Maverick War Hero Train" all the way to the White House..... i almost loved as much as being called a "Nation of Whiners" by the McCain camp.... really lovely

Now, you think McCain will change the country? that he will steer us in the right direction? He couldnt get passed Bush in 2000, and then after that agreed with the President 90% of the time while he was in office... so basically the country wouldve been in the Same condition had he gotten elected 8 years ago instead of Bush.... McCain has been in Congress over 20 years, and as much as he thinks he's a Maverick, and thinks he is a Washington outsider, he's not.... he's too old, too stubborn, too grumpy, and hot-headed, and been part of Washington way too long to achieve the change that we honestly Do need.

as Obama said very accurately... its not as if McCain doesnt care, its that he doesnt Get it, he doesnt Know.
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lmao

okay Mimesis, if thats even your real name, you suppose that we try trickle down economics one more time? cuz, u know, thats worked SO well in the past, and thats basically your suggestion.... and why exactly do u expect unemployment to swing back to 5%, (and btw, someone who thinks unemployment, as you said, Should be anywhere but 0% has some serious problems) you think that it will just fix itself? that it will just go away? what great logic you have there, i must commend you

the reason the Palin pick makes McCain a bad pick for President is the simple fact that, ding ding ding, it reflects his Judgment... when he does a Huge bellyflop for his first Major decision, how can u expect him to make good ones after that? They had one actual conversation with her the day Before she gets chosen, and they say she was properly vetted? I dont know if its worse that she was taken with such haste, or the fact that they actually think she Wasnt taken with haste, either way it reflects really poorly...

and thank you for, u know, not actually responding to anything i said...

the woman wants to teach No Evolution, and only teach abstinence
... now i understand if she doesnt Believe in evolution, and in using contraception, but it should be taught to Everyone, even if it is suggested by teachers which they prefer...
oh yea, ms abstinence has a pregnant 17 year old unmarried daughter... but Oh no, thats not an issue..... the thing i hate is when i talk about her daughter, or anyone, we arent bashing the Daughter.... we are bashing Palin for not even being able to convince her own daughter of her beliefs and legislation....

btw, your Campaign Manager has been quoted saying that this election "is not about the issues" but its about the composite image of the candidates and who are perceived as better leaders.... thats one great thing to say, he doesnt think it gives a flying fuck what the people want as long as they can ride the "McCain is a Maverick War Hero Train" all the way to the White House..... i almost loved as much as being called a "Nation of Whiners" by the McCain camp.... really lovely

Now, you think McCain will change the country? that he will steer us in the right direction? He couldnt get passed Bush in 2000, and then after that agreed with the President 90% of the time while he was in office... so basically the country wouldve been in the Same condition had he gotten elected 8 years ago instead of Bush.... McCain has been in Congress over 20 years, and as much as he thinks he's a Maverick, and thinks he is a Washington outsider, he's not.... he's too old, too stubborn, too grumpy, and hot-headed, and been part of Washington way too long to achieve the change that we honestly Do need.

as Obama said very accurately... its not as if McCain doesnt care, its that he doesnt Get it, he doesnt Know.


Are you the biggest fucking idiot that ever walked the earth? No, my real name isn't Mimesis, what the fuck hahaha? My real name is Austin, but you can address me as sir.

You have ZERO knowledge of macroeconomics, and anybody who has the most elementary, fucking worthless foundation of knowledge EVER will say you're an idiot. Unemployment will NEVER be at 0%. I say it will go back to 5% because that's the natural rate of unemployment. Do you even fucking know what unemployment is, or who's considered unemployed? That was a rhetorical question because if you did you'd understand why it can never reach 0%. I know it will correct itself because I understand macroeconomics, something you obviously don't know shit about.

I'm not going to address the rest of your post or any future posts from you until you start talking about shit that's actually relevant and makes sense. NOBODY is saying that unemployment will just keep rising until it fucking reaches 100% or whatever your trying to suggest in your worthless and idiotic attempt at explaining a basic macroeconomic principle.

McCain is old and Palin is conservative. What a fucking shocker. I stopped reading your post after the first paragraph then skimmed over the rest on my way down to pressing the Quick Reply button. Your arguments aren't worth the 5 minutes it takes me to read and reply to this shit, so just please stop posting. You're a fucking retard. Get out of my thread. Oh, and learn how to type too.

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lmao

okay Mimesis, if thats even your real name, you suppose that we try trickle down economics one more time? cuz, u know, thats worked SO well in the past, and thats basically your suggestion.... and why exactly do u expect unemployment to swing back to 5%, (and btw, someone who thinks unemployment, as you said, Should be anywhere but 0% has some serious problems) you think that it will just fix itself? that it will just go away? what great logic you have there, i must commend you

the reason the Palin pick makes McCain a bad pick for President is the simple fact that, ding ding ding, it reflects his Judgment... when he does a Huge bellyflop for his first Major decision, how can u expect him to make good ones after that? They had one actual conversation with her the day Before she gets chosen, and they say she was properly vetted? I dont know if its worse that she was taken with such haste, or the fact that they actually think she Wasnt taken with haste, either way it reflects really poorly...

and thank you for, u know, not actually responding to anything i said...

the woman wants to teach No Evolution, and only teach abstinence
... now i understand if she doesnt Believe in evolution, and in using contraception, but it should be taught to Everyone, even if it is suggested by teachers which they prefer...
oh yea, ms abstinence has a pregnant 17 year old unmarried daughter... but Oh no, thats not an issue..... the thing i hate is when i talk about her daughter, or anyone, we arent bashing the Daughter.... we are bashing Palin for not even being able to convince her own daughter of her beliefs and legislation....

btw, your Campaign Manager has been quoted saying that this election "is not about the issues" but its about the composite image of the candidates and who are perceived as better leaders.... thats one great thing to say, he doesnt think it gives a flying fuck what the people want as long as they can ride the "McCain is a Maverick War Hero Train" all the way to the White House..... i almost loved as much as being called a "Nation of Whiners" by the McCain camp.... really lovely

Now, you think McCain will change the country? that he will steer us in the right direction? He couldnt get passed Bush in 2000, and then after that agreed with the President 90% of the time while he was in office... so basically the country wouldve been in the Same condition had he gotten elected 8 years ago instead of Bush.... McCain has been in Congress over 20 years, and as much as he thinks he's a Maverick, and thinks he is a Washington outsider, he's not.... he's too old, too stubborn, too grumpy, and hot-headed, and been part of Washington way too long to achieve the change that we honestly Do need.

as Obama said very accurately... its not as if McCain doesnt care, its that he doesnt Get it, he doesnt Know.



thats a horrible statement bro....Mccain agree'd...just like the other 98 percent of the senate/congress. You can't single out one dude.....


Mccain was indpedent in 2000 anyways, so if anything...he was a much stronger canidate back then...than before he joined the Republican party.
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