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10-28-09, 07:24 PM | #61 | |||||||
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Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."
Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them" |
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10-28-09, 07:25 PM | #62 | ||||
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EVeryone will always remain a "sinner" in God's eyes...SAVED by grace. God is dealing with you Adam...and either you'll accept his call or you won't... I don't have a heaven or hell to put you in...I'm just the messenger. 1 |
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10-28-09, 07:26 PM | #63 | ||||||||
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You're just confused. |
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10-28-09, 07:29 PM | #64 | ||||
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You don't know me bro...I've not said anything about being Gay YOu are passing judgment based on what others have said. I struggle with temptation like EVERYONE. My temptation is no different from any body else's... Sin is sin. If you struggle with what you strugle with...that's constantly NAILING Christ back to the cross That's what accepting Jesus does for us...it allows us to be presented FAULTLESS to a holy God in our sinful form But...as Romans 6 says...should we continue in it so that God's grace abounds? God forbid...no We are to STRIVE for perfection. 1 |
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10-28-09, 07:30 PM | #65 | ||||||||
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When did perfection become living a lie? |
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10-28-09, 07:31 PM | #66 | |||||
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Np Bro!! Well this is the thing bro. God is never unjust. God loves you with all his heart, he loves withone the SAME way. God will not let you go to hell unless you had a chance to show you accept him. Its like this, someone has been cheating on his wife his whole life. And at the same time his wife never found out and stood with him showing all her love she can ever give to him. But when she finds out, she leaves him and shuts him out of her life. Now this man is suffering with regret and wishes he cant change his ways. But it was too late. He could have changed his ways before she found out but never did. Is it fair that she goes back to him after he realizes he will lose her? He had a choice, and its not fair to hear that he only changes his ways after she leaves him. If he truly "LOVED" her, he would have stopped cheating on her. If she never found out, he would have never stop. God loves you with all his heart and will never stop loving you. But its not fair that you only love him when you finally realize there is a a Hell and you will end up there. You had your chance to change your ways. If you don't change your ways than he will have no other choice but to send you to hell. Now thinnkg of this. The guys that never cheated on his wife and stayed loyal to her all the way to the end. She will never leave him, she will never cheat on him, and she received the same amount of love. He deserves her life because he treated her right and never betrayed her. Now, for those that stood by GOd and loved him and never turned their back on him. And even if they did, they later "TRULY" repented and accepted him into their lives all the way to their deaths. They never cheated on God and always loved him. God will allow those people into his Kingdom. Yes Jesus said treat others like you'd like to be treated. But Jesus also said, you can only go to heaven through him. If you accept him as your savior. You see, God will not let you into heaven because of your good deeds. he never said that. God said, you faith is what will get you into heaven. Good deeds are just extra rewards you will get in Heaven, but you dont have to them if you dont want to. His love is unconditional love because he will always love us no matter what. I have said so many things to God how I hate him, how i dont believe he exist. How I said, "GOD you allowed her to cheat on me? Theres no way you exist." Yet! No matter what I said, did, is am going to do to him. His love stays the same and will alawys love me no matter what. And after I realized that, i can never say i hate you god.. i can never say "WHY." Well there will be times I will say that because there will always be tough times in my life. But I know now why these things happen. God never lets you go. But you see, he will love you your wholfe life. But is it fair he lets you in heaven after you die when you never truly showed and loved him? He gives you your chance. He shows you he truly exist by the people that are trying to spread his word. Its up to you by "FAITH" to believe he is truly there. That is why he said that Faith will get you in heaven. He never said Good deeds will get you in heaven. Its just, God gave us these Rules. We can't say, oh i want to be a budhist because I like their ways are better. God made these rules and said these things in the Bible because thats how he wants it. And yes hes a jealous God. Arn't our parents Jealous? If we dont love our dad but love another guy taht isn't our dad and called him our dad. Wouldn't your dad be Jealous? Your dad created you and only he should be called your dad. Your dad will always love you. But its not right you ignore him and traet him like that. But yea bro I know what you mean. I use to think like that before as well. You see, he will forgive someone that killed millions of people but only if they "TRULY" repent for it. You can say God forgive me but not mean it. But if you truly ask for forgiveness and truly repent for it. God will forgive you.
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10-28-09, 07:32 PM | #67 | ||||
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far from it... There are no perfect messengers... EVERYONE falls short of God's glory ROmans 3:23 says it best "FOr all have sinned and fallen short of his glory" But...accepting God is a calling...to be answered...and once yoiu answer...it's a journey...a quest...one f trials and overcoming those trials... It's a sacrifice.... and I know for a fact that you know God adam because God revealed that to me...YOU KNOW... u are no stranger to God's word...that's why God is dealing with you the way he is... If you were a complete stranger to all this, God would have more mercy on you...but you KNOW the truth...you just refuse to accept it... You choose not to get in the race by answering God's call? Well...God wants to take your life to another level...and that wilkl only come to your accepting his call on your life. |
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10-28-09, 07:34 PM | #68 | ||||
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the LIE is that we were created to be anything less than God's chosen people. The truth is that we are special in God's eyes...with a purpose to fulfll...each of us. |
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10-28-09, 07:35 PM | #69 | |||||
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Jesus was and Is perfect. Im saying his life was not perfect. THe live he lived was not the best. He lived in hunger, he had no money that he had to ask someone for a coin to explain his sermon. He was tired enough to sleep on a ship while huge waves were shifting all around them. Jesus lived a life harder than a lot could ever imagine. But he endured through it because of his Faith that God will take care of him. Jesus is the ONLY man to never sin. Why? Because he was conceived, he was Holy. Mary was a virgin and gave birth to Jesus. His father is God, and his mother is mary. Jesus was born Holy and Died Holy, and still is Holy to this day.
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10-28-09, 07:40 PM | #70 | |||
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btw...this is exhilarating!
Love this dialogue...it's great. 1 |
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10-28-09, 07:41 PM | #71 | |||||||
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Are you becoming a pastor because it's easier to get away with molesting children?
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10-28-09, 07:41 PM | #72 | |||||
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Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination. abomination: # a person who is loathsome or disgusting # abhorrence: hate coupled with disgust also, the bible says you shall not lie? yet you do it. It also says you should not have premarital sex. yet you do it? So your just as bad as those that lay in bed with men. Abomination does not mean you will go to hell. It means its not allowed. God also said murder is not allowed. God also said coveting is not allowed. He also said cursing is not allowed. You're just as bad as those that do any of these. Thanks for proving my point. It does not say he will go to hell. or any Homo. Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them" Yes at those times it says they will be put to death. But does it say they will go to hell? Detestable: Stimulating disgust or detestation; offensive; shocking That doesn't mean he will go to hell either. Both of these verse you actually put are also stated with other things in verse before and after them. In Lev it also stated that you may not commit adultery? These verse you are putting on here are stated with other things basically meaning, do not do this or that it is wrong. it never said you will go to Hell only because of ONE THING. These are all stated with many other things.
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10-28-09, 07:43 PM | #73 | ||||
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Pastoring is not my calling... and I'm not interested in molesting anyone. 1 |
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10-28-09, 07:45 PM | #74 | |||||
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Actually, if I did that. I would have done that to my little cousins by now. But no. I had a job where I made 200k a year. I had a job where i only made 20k a year. None of them made me feel content like how i do now. Serving God is better than any paycheck. Because of how close I am to God. I notice many amazing things/miracles he does in my life weekly. The miracles I see/feel are worth more than any dollar. I didn't just feel God wanted me to become a Pastor. He showed it to me. Do you want to be a Rapper so you can look like a ganster? No.. you are an emcee because its your love, and its what you love doing. Serving God is my love and love doing more than anything else.
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10-28-09, 07:45 PM | #75 | ||||
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let's not forget the scripture in Leviticus that says a person should be put to DEATH for committing adultery...which Jesus later revised as "looking at someone lustfully" and those who consort witches...witchcraft...that means HOROSCOPES...numerology...astrology..etc... Point is...LEt's focus on the here and now...and here and now, God has a perfect, BETTER means of salvation...JESUS CHRIST 1 |
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