And like I said, Pac did not become famous until he played in Juice

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...I dont give a fuck about flow, BOTH of them never/barely switched their SUBJECT MATTER.

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I just posted 3 songs that were about 3 totally different things
wtf is you sayin?

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matter of fact, that new biggie joint with bob marley

I dont know all the wrods to it, but his 1st verse was dope as fuck

when I die I want to go to hell
cos somethin somethin it aint hard to tell
and the rest of the verse
but that song is completely different, I never heard that song either
shit was dope

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That's one of the worst songs I've heard all year. They completely butchered "Suicidal Thoughts" with that bullshit beat and unnecessary Bob Marley sample.

Get the original track if you like the lyrics.

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when i die fuck it i want to go to hell
cuz ima piece of shit it aint hard to fucking tell
it dont make sense going to heaven with the goodie goodies
dressed in white, i like black tims and black hoodys
god'll probably have me on some real strict shit
no sleeping all day, no getting my dick lick

^word
lol
I like that song

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When I die, fuck it I wanna go to hell
Cause I'm a piece of shit, it ain't hard to fuckin' tell
It don't make sense, goin' to heaven wit the goodie-goodies
Dressed in white, I like black Tims and black hoodies
God will probably have me on some real strict shit
No sleepin' all day, no gettin my dick licked
Hangin' with the goodie-goodies loungin' in paradise
Fuck that shit, I wanna tote guns and shoot dice
All my life I been considered as the worst
Lyin' to my mother, even stealin' out her purse
Crime after crime, from drugs to extortion
I know my mother wished she got a fuckin' abortion
She don't even love me like she did when I was younger
Suckin' on her chest just to stop my fuckin' hunger
I wonder if I died, would tears come to her eyes?
Forgive me for my disrespect, forgive me for my lies
My babies' mothers 8 months, her little sister's 2
Who's to blame for both of them (naw nigga, not you)
I swear to God I just want to slit my wrists and end this bullshit
Throw the Magnum to my head, threaten to pull shit
And squeeze, until the bed's, completely red
I'm glad I'm dead, a worthless fuckin' buddah head
The stress is buildin' up, I can't,
I can't believe suicide's on my fuckin' mind
I want to leave, I swear to God I feel like death is fuckin' callin' me
Naw you wouldn't understand (nigga, talk to me please)
You see its kinda like the crack did to Pookie, in New Jack
Except when I cross over, there ain't no comin' back
Should I die on the train track, like Remo in Beatstreet
People at the funeral frontin' like they miss me
My baby momma kissed me but she glad I'm gone
She knew me and her sista had somethin' goin' on
I reach my peak, I can't speak,
call my nigga Chic, tell him that my will is weak.
I'm sick of niggas lyin', I'm sick of bitches hawkin',
matter of fact, I'm sick of talkin'.

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Show some more songs, and I bet you I can find a shitload of similiarities...cuz out of his 3 albums, 85-90% is talkin about robbin people or shootin people, same shit with Pac...but Pac had more emotional songs on his double discs after his death.

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we grew up with biggie and pac, thats why we hold them so high in standards.......that "gimme the loot" song was the 1st rap record i ever memorized that wasnt a radio single

I grew up on them too, along with Pun...but I dont say theyre the goats because I've opened my mind to newer artists and realized peoples brains evolve and a lot of times do better then the older generations, I never said they were wack...I said they were overated for this time period, because there are emcees today that are better then Biggie in his time, simple as that, no hate, its a fact. So instead of saying that I like to say Biggie was dope for his time period, but underground artists today can outshine him.

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All this talk about emotion/flow/subject matter should cease.

For those arguing against the true dopeness of Biggie, obtain a copy of "Niggaz Bleed", arguabely one of the greatest story tracks ever. It's in this 4 1/2 minute tale that Big displays some of the greatest lyrics in his career.

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Pac was first out with Digital Underground.
What did he rap about?
Look how he acted!

He played in Juice as a killer.
THAT is what made him known.
He took that success, changed his whole persona and ran with it.

Who has any comments about that?

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I do.

Juice was dope.

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