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Old 02-03-06, 05:35 AM   #1
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P.S. OMB...on that note, lemme give you this analogy.

I live in Washington, D.C., the nation's capital.

I drive by the white house, monument, capitol building, WW2 memorial, Vietnam memorial, Arlington National cemetery, Jefferson Memorial, Lincoln memorial, and the soon to be MLK Jr. Memorial site ALL THE TIME. These are world-wide recognized landmarks that many people take vacations to go see. When someone visits the United States and stands by the white house for the first time, I'm sure there's this level of "excitement" they can't deny. But, since I'm here and have been around it all my life, that excitement is someone replaced with familiarity. When I hear people talk about how "deep" a person is, I get the same feeling. I listen to some things thinking, "Exactly what's deep about it?" Sometimes, I listen again, figuring I may have missed the "deep" parts. But, to my dismay, I leave with the same impression, that the listener is effected by the music. That's the whole point of music, to affect its listeners.

With that said, it's hard to gauge who is "deeper" than somebody else. Other things, like flow (staying on beat), singing IN TUNE, and being accurate with references are more objective.



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Old 02-03-06, 05:44 AM   #2
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P.S. OMB...on that note, lemme give you this analogy.

I live in Washington, D.C., the nation's capital.

I drive by the white house, monument, capitol building, WW2 memorial, Vietnam memorial, Arlington National cemetery, Jefferson Memorial, Lincoln memorial, and the soon to be MLK Jr. Memorial site ALL THE TIME. These are world-wide recognized landmarks that many people take vacations to go see. When someone visits the United States and stands by the white house for the first time, I'm sure there's this level of "excitement" they can't deny. But, since I'm here and have been around it all my life, that excitement is someone replaced with familiarity. When I hear people talk about how "deep" a person is, I get the same feeling. I listen to some things thinking, "Exactly what's deep about it?" Sometimes, I listen again, figuring I may have missed the "deep" parts. But, to my dismay, I leave with the same impression, that the listener is effected by the music. That's the whole point of music, to affect its listeners.

With that said, it's hard to gauge who is "deeper" than somebody else. Other things, like flow (staying on beat), singing IN TUNE, and being accurate with references are more objective.



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Yeah I understand what you mean, and I definitely agree with that. But on what you said before, about how I might just see it as amazing and really deep because of my education, that would be the case with a lot of things. But with this canibus track its basically the opposite of that. The amount of people educated enough to understand the underlying and hidden meanings in poet laureate II is very limited. Which is probably why when a lot of people listen to it, shit just flies straight in one ear and out the other.
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Old 02-03-06, 05:49 AM   #3
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Oh man... You got so much to learn man.. Joe budden jus aint that dope..

and he aint deep either.. What you think is deep is like "aww man i been living in the hood omg my life is so shit omg omg omg blah blah blah"

Have a fucken cry or somethin bro.. Budden aint that deep at all... And I bet he aint even lived that hard of a life.. You DO realise that record labels lie to all fuck about rappers past's to sell records right?

Didnt think so....
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Old 02-03-06, 05:56 AM   #4
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Oh man... You got so much to learn man.. Joe budden jus aint that dope..

and he aint deep either.. What you think is deep is like "aww man i been living in the hood omg my life is so shit omg omg omg blah blah blah"

Have a fucken cry or somethin bro.. Budden aint that deep at all... And I bet he aint even lived that hard of a life.. You DO realise that record labels lie to all fuck about rappers past's to sell records right?

Didnt think so....

you keep bringin up this "record label shit" like Joe Budden is a multi platinum artist
he JUST got signed to Def Jam
his deepest songs isnt even ABOUT himself they're about OTHER PEOPLE
He dont rap about growin upo a hard life
thats just how you THINK he rap
YOU'RE the naieve one
I cant say I honestly listened to canibus and got over him
I have Can I bust, Mic CLUB and the very very garbage C True hollywood story
I've had them since I was around 13- 14 years old, man
Joe Budden is grown man music, stop judgin him sayin he rap about this and that BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY HEAR HIM
Because the way you're talkin now, its very VERY obvious that you havent heard shit from him
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Old 02-03-06, 06:00 AM   #5
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ROFL Grown man music... Nah dude...

Lmfao Thats going wayyy too far... This arguments getting real pathetic real fast.. Its obvious I'm arguing with cats that dont really know shit..

So I'ma end this right here man.. Have a good night rofl...

To be honest I'm not even that much into canibus... I got a lot of his songs.. But there are other rappers I listen to FAR more than him...

I only rarly crack out poet laureate and a few other songs cause I enjoy listening to them.... I only posted his lyrics cause he so badly shits on joe budden... It was just a good example...
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Old 02-03-06, 06:07 AM   #6
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Yo Will.sun.you..

If you wanna hear shit that is actually some of my fav rapers.. Download shit by artists like Bliss N Eso, Hilltop Hoods, Tupac, Wutang, Mass MC...

Etc etc etc......
If you remember.. Hilltop hoods had that verse I posted first up and you said was pretty dope...
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Old 02-03-06, 06:09 AM   #7
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3 Sides to a story

^That is one of the best story tracks written in YEARS. Its deep as fuck, especially the 2nd verse when he's rappin from the girl perpestive

Future
Another very deep Joe Budden. His delivery in this is remarkable. A very emotional track where Joe raps about the struggle inside of him.

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And this track right here is just another very emotional track. Joe Budden is one of the most emotional rappers out. Matter of fact, this song addresses YOU! Listen to the 2nd verse, in the beginning. He addresses people LIKE YOU!


Seriously, Canibus lack the finesse to rap like Joe Budden. He has lyrical skill, but delivery wise, emotional wise, HELL NO.
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If you do kegel excercises, you would be able to do something similar without having to hold your tip shut with your hand. After you've been doing them, hold off ejaculating as long as you can to really let the pressure build and then aim for your girlfriend's eye and let 'er rip.. You might get lucky and shoot her eye out. That's probably exaggerating it a bit, but it will still be hilarious
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Old 02-03-06, 04:54 PM   #8
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3 Sides to a story

^That is one of the best story tracks written in YEARS. Its deep as fuck, especially the 2nd verse when he's rappin from the girl perpestive

Future
Another very deep Joe Budden. His delivery in this is remarkable. A very emotional track where Joe raps about the struggle inside of him.

Stained
And this track right here is just another very emotional track. Joe Budden is one of the most emotional rappers out. Matter of fact, this song addresses YOU! Listen to the 2nd verse, in the beginning. He addresses people LIKE YOU!


Seriously, Canibus lack the finesse to rap like Joe Budden. He has lyrical skill, but delivery wise, emotional wise, HELL NO.


I listened to those 3.

3 sides to a story - Not a terrible track... Nothing really original. Basic parallel construction on obvious issues. You're making it sound like this is the only song of its kind... You really think there arent other songs about hood-life, family problems, teen pregnancy? His delivery is OK, but not as good as you make it out to be. That lisp thing gets annoying. Overall, this track pales in comparison to any of Immortal Techniques story tracks, or even who's there by the guru... shit, even nimrod - drastic measures is iller than this.

Future - This is just some random track??? What did you say was good about this one? His delivery is the same as every other song.

Stained - Delivery the same again. He's talking about the hood again, and how tough he is. Not very unique... -_-. Some semi-decent lyrics.. maybe like 4 bars of them. I stopped listening when that wierd sounding guy ended every line with nigga.........

Well... all of that was pretty generic. Whats so special about joe budden?
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I listened to those 3.

3 sides to a story - Not a terrible track... Nothing really original. Basic parallel construction on obvious issues. You're making it sound like this is the only song of its kind... You really think there arent other songs about hood-life, family problems, teen pregnancy? His delivery is OK, but not as good as you make it out to be. That lisp thing gets annoying. Overall, this track pales in comparison to any of Immortal Techniques story tracks, or even who's there by the guru... shit, even nimrod - drastic measures is iller than this.

Future - This is just some random track??? What did you say was good about this one? His delivery is the same as every other song.

Stained - Delivery the same again. He's talking about the hood again, and how tough he is. Not very unique... -_-. Some semi-decent lyrics.. maybe like 4 bars of them. I stopped listening when that wierd sounding guy ended every line with nigga.........

Well... all of that was pretty generic. Whats so special about joe budden?

Just remember your talking to a dipset fan...

What would you expect from him? Ofcourse his faverite rappers gonna be generic and trashy...
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Old 02-04-06, 09:51 AM   #10
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I listened to those 3.

3 sides to a story - Not a terrible track... Nothing really original. Basic parallel construction on obvious issues. You're making it sound like this is the only song of its kind... You really think there arent other songs about hood-life, family problems, teen pregnancy? His delivery is OK, but not as good as you make it out to be. That lisp thing gets annoying. Overall, this track pales in comparison to any of Immortal Techniques story tracks, or even who's there by the guru... shit, even nimrod - drastic measures is iller than this.

Future - This is just some random track??? What did you say was good about this one? His delivery is the same as every other song.

Stained - Delivery the same again. He's talking about the hood again, and how tough he is. Not very unique... -_-. Some semi-decent lyrics.. maybe like 4 bars of them. I stopped listening when that wierd sounding guy ended every line with nigga.........

Well... all of that was pretty generic. Whats so special about joe budden?

RV is the ONLY site on the net that doesn't like Joe Budden
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I guess people is right when they say it's over ran with herbs.
Maybe yall dont like Joe Budden because he raps about alot of stuff that normal people can relate to.
Seeing that they're the majority and not super nerds with IQ's of 500.
Which isnt a bad thing, but it just shows how super nerdy you are.
Joe Budden is the best out.

and yall talkin about rappers who only rap about hood issues, WTF did Tupac ALWAYS rapped about hood shit. There's NO WAY can you like Tupac but NOT like Joe Budden. It just doesn't work. Cos Budden touches down on quite a few topics that tupac does, but he does it IN A BETTER WAY!
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If you do kegel excercises, you would be able to do something similar without having to hold your tip shut with your hand. After you've been doing them, hold off ejaculating as long as you can to really let the pressure build and then aim for your girlfriend's eye and let 'er rip.. You might get lucky and shoot her eye out. That's probably exaggerating it a bit, but it will still be hilarious
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RV is the ONLY site on the net that doesn't like Joe Budden
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I guess people is right when they say it's over ran with herbs.
Maybe yall dont like Joe Budden because he raps about alot of stuff that normal people can relate to.
Seeing that they're the majority and not super nerds with IQ's of 500.
Which isnt a bad thing, but it just shows how super nerdy you are.
Joe Budden is the best out.

and yall talkin about rappers who only rap about hood issues, WTF did Tupac ALWAYS rapped about hood shit. There's NO WAY can you like Tupac but NOT like Joe Budden. It just doesn't work. Cos Budden touches down on quite a few topics that tupac does, but he does it IN A BETTER WAY!


So basically, you're saying only stupid people (the majority) listen to, and can relate to, joe budden?

Thank you... That is exactly the point I have been trying to make.
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So basically, you're saying only stupid people (the majority) listen to, and can relate to, joe budden?

Thank you... That is exactly the point I have been trying to make.

no, i said nothing like this at all, actually
I said the majority of the people arent SUPER nerds
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If you do kegel excercises, you would be able to do something similar without having to hold your tip shut with your hand. After you've been doing them, hold off ejaculating as long as you can to really let the pressure build and then aim for your girlfriend's eye and let 'er rip.. You might get lucky and shoot her eye out. That's probably exaggerating it a bit, but it will still be hilarious
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Old 02-03-06, 06:13 AM   #14
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You just dont know what deep shit is...

Also LMFAOODFROFDLROFORLFORLF @ him rapping as a 'girl'... Bahahahhaa

So you like when grown men rap like women huh.. Thats deep to you I see...

Lol... Canibus IS 123094205349028 times better than Joe Budden.. Your jus naieve and sound like you might of got hit in the head a few too many times in your youth...
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Old 02-03-06, 06:18 AM   #15
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You just dont know what deep shit is...

Also LMFAOODFROFDLROFORLFORLF @ him rapping as a 'girl'... Bahahahhaa

So you like when grown men rap like women huh.. Thats deep to you I see...

Lol... Canibus IS 123094205349028 times better than Joe Budden.. Your jus naieve and sound like you might of got hit in the head a few too many times in your youth...

yeah
you're a Canibus dickrider
its VERY apparent now
I didnt say he was rappin as a girl, you fuckin retard
I said he rapped from the girl's perpective.
there IS a difference
wow, for someone to be so "intelligent" you sure are a fuckin dumbass.
Like I said, YOU know nothin of rap
you're a white dude born and raised in Australia.
you like NERD RAP.
Which is cool, but you ONLY like nerd rap.
you like old ass rappers
and not only are you naeieve
you're ignorant
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If you do kegel excercises, you would be able to do something similar without having to hold your tip shut with your hand. After you've been doing them, hold off ejaculating as long as you can to really let the pressure build and then aim for your girlfriend's eye and let 'er rip.. You might get lucky and shoot her eye out. That's probably exaggerating it a bit, but it will still be hilarious
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