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THANK YOU TEAMONE;.......THANK YOU........I'M GLAD SOMEONE HAS SOME SENSE IN THIS THREAD........

if i was a mod i would close it right now....

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Hello everyone

It's like this..... There's a MArtin Luther King Day Right...... Lincoln n Washington got days also.... N you give tha peaceful one his own day becasue he didnt wanna kill ya'll or move out the country..... if you really wanna make black people happy give Malcom X his own day...

You gave us Black History Month... In Feb. that's that shortest month ever..... want us to be happy bout that.. Give us a month like July or sumthin....


White people that come up wit shit like that are considered racist cuz hell wut dont ya'll got to improve life in tha Gay ass Country...... life for anybody that's not white was hard... still hard n always gon be hard... no matter wut goes on..... shit is stupid..... If White people wasnt so damn lazy 200 years ago we wouldnt have this problem.....

and rather if they say it or not White people think they better... Period

Nuff Said Young Sin

Out this bitch

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I'm Sicker Than Tha Plauges That God Sent Moses-Chosen

Word u know what ur talking about my black brother. White people cause nothing but trouble, and God's first man was black.

Nuff Said

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Shoot dem cowboy niggaz up !

This is sarcasm right? About having Black History Month in February and it being the shortest month. According to Wikipedia, February was chosen because of the birthdays of Frederick Douglass and Lincoln, two men who had great influence on black history. And the guy who chose it was Carter Godwin Woodson, a black man. So it's not like some guy randomly picks a month and says this a month we celebrate ______. It actually has significance.

If you want a longer month, you should go to the UK, where they celebrate theirs in October, so you'll get your 31 days. I'm too lazy to do my research, but I'm wondering why they celebrate it. That paragraph in Wikipedia about how Morgan Freeman says he doesn't want a black history month because he believes that as long as people keep on identifying themselves by skin color there will always be racism, is so true. One day in the distant future, everyone will be the same color and racism will be no more. It'll get there eventually.. didn't you see the Matrix? Then people will just argue about religion

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---^ shut the fuck up ....racist bullshit like that is what makes tension continue...fuckin idiot

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U should be cool with a brother like me yo, fuck them trailer trash crackas like Datrus.

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Shoot dem cowboy niggaz up !

Wow, this is so fucking ridiculous it is unbelievable.

I have a variety of opinions on racism....

Firstly, when I ask black people why they can call a white dude cracker but a white guy can't call a black dude nigger it just makes me laugh the response I get. "What is so hurtful about calling you a cracker?" The truth is, nothing. I doubt any white person would be offended by that statement because we are smart enough to realise that it means nothing.
But, let me ask you this, "What is so hurtful about me calling you a nigger?" I'll tell you what, the overall fucking past generations of black people drilling it into your head that it is a derrogatory statement when coming from a white man. So, in hindsight you could say that the black community was just looking for some sympathy on that one. And that they were just trying to create a way to make the white man appear as a cruel, discriminatory individual.

And, all this fucking arguments on slavery and how the black man had it so fucking bad shackled up and sold from white man to white man. Yes, that was fucking wrong. Slavery in general is wrong. Why did the white man do it? Because he fucking could. The white man had the numbers, the power, the resources.
If the role was reversed and the black man was the majority population and had the power that the white man had back then.... you can bet he would fucking enslave the white man. Why? Because he fucking could.

You go on about how the black race has had it so bad. What the fuck? Did the white race have everything gifted to them? No, they fucking didn't. They fucking worked for it and earned it. They built their success for themselves. Why the fuck should they share it with everyone else regardless of colour, race, religion or whatever. If you want something in life, EARN IT!!

The problem is, everyone is always looking to blame someone else.

If a black guy gets picked last at soccer, its automatically because the other dudes are racist. Of course, it has nothing to do with the fact that the black guy might just suck at the sport. And vice versa if the white guy is picked last, the other guys are racist. Man, everyone should just shut the fuck up, stop looking for people to blame and fucking earn shit on their own rights without excuses.

i agree with everything you say even the thing about how white people didn't have things given to them..but to an extent..during post slavery times, including today. its obvious that white people had a much better CHANCE at getting ahead in life. yes black people shouldn't just sit and pity and cry about what the white man has done. but at the same time the life of a black person and the life of a white person isn't on an even playing ground. the times are getting better..way better...but it still isn't equal. and yes i'm black and i belive that my people along with myself just have to work harder to get where we want to be.

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Black power nigga !

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Shoot dem cowboy niggaz up !

absolutely. the way I see it is the white people had to work for what they got, but then they got all fucking power mad and developed an unsquashable ego that has them still believing to this day that they are the dominant race. power corrupts, and thats what it did when the white man obtained it. so yeah, its because of that reason alone that the black race has a somewhat tougher task to get ahead than the white race. the white race was first to real supreme power, and I personally think it will be that way when we are all dead. unless the black race manages to somehow over throw the governments run by white people, the white race will always deem itself superior because it pretty much always has and is still sat atop the pile with all the power in the world.

fuck it though, i'm going to spraypaint myself green and then be put in the real minority group with the ninja turtles, captain planet and the incredible hulk.

I numbered your arguments so I could son them in numerical order. I'm just that badass.

1. When you call me a nigger, it is way different than you calling me you a cracker. If I call you a cracker, it's not because I don't like you because you're white, it's because you're a white man who doesn't like me because I'm black. Do you see the difference? It's like you don't like me because a black guy raped your mom, and I don't like you because YOU raped my mom. An admittedly horrible analogy, but effective nonetheless.

2. The white man had black people enslaved because they genuinely believed that negros were inferior to white people and that a black man being subordinate to whites was his "natural and normal condition". That's coming from the Vice President of the Confederate States of America. So basically, they didn't just say "Hey umm, anyone want free labor?", they thought that by having blacks as slaves, they were only allowing natural circumstances to take place.

Anyways, placing hypothetical situations about who would have enslaved who are inconsequential, we are debating over actual facts about what did happen, and what happened here, not in a parallel universe where we all walk in each others shoes through history.

3. Okay, I have witnessed for myself racism and racial profiling through the law enforcement and judicial systems that you haven't. I've been racially profiled and have dealt with racism my whole life. Now, I am telling you, from EXPERIENCE, that it is WAY harder for a black person to get to the same spot as a white person. Don't give me some bullshit about how popular and rich blacky so-and-so celebrity is, I would bet they had to work twice or three times as hard to get to that spot as a white person would to get to the same spot. Somehow, the mere fact that a few do end up leaking through to the other side is enough, but is it fair that black have to try so much harder? Really?

I left holes for you to exploit so I can come back and finish you off. Go.

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1. You call me a cracker because I'm a white man who doesn't like blacks. The same shit would apply to the term "nigger". Don't presume to think you know me. Not all white people are the same. What's not to say that I call you a nigger because you are a black man who doesn't like whites. And the reason you don't like whites, is because you deem them as racist towards your colour of skin. That could go back and forth for endless years so it ultimately is a pointless argument. Which is the point I was trying to make. What is so racist about the term "nigger" or "cracker". Nothing. It was what you have been led to believe. Its like if your past generations of black people got it into your head that calling you a fucking plum was racist, then you would believe it. Its all about perception of the word.


2. The Vice President of the Confederate States of America said that shit you just informed me of. Well, who cares? Is he the grand populous opinion. No he fucking isn't. That is the words of one person, not the entire world. How the fuck can one man presume to believe he can voice the reasons behind the actions of so many people? The fact is there has been white slaves, there has been black slaves. It has nothing to do with colour. It has to do with who was superior. The white race was superior back then, and they deemed the black race inferior not because of colour, but because of their living conditions, their way of life was just inferior. The white race just seized upon the black races downtrodden lives and capitalised upon it. They saw an opportunity to attain something that would make their lives easier, and they took it. Just like everyone else would, if their is a choice between the hard way or the easy way, its human nature to take the easy way.


3. Now, if you want to talk about racial profiling.... well, that is a piss poor argument if I've ever seen one. I've seen black people, white people, chinese people... all sorts of people suffer racial profiling. You act like its only fucking blacks that get it. You talk about all this shit when you walk into a store and get followed around. Hell, I'm white and that shit has happened to me numerous times. Its not the fact that you're black, its just the way a person perceives you. If they think you look suspicious, they will follow you. You, just like I said are basically looking for an excuse, a reason behind it and the first one that always comes to mind is racial profiling. And don't even get me started on the whole celebrity status shit... you look at music.. hip hop/rap in particular. The so-called "black people's music". That shit could be considered racist right there. Don't even think for a second that they had it tough, fuck man.... 90% of the rap/hip hop industry is fucking black people.

The fact is, as I've pointed out... you are looking for a fucking excuse. I'll admit that the black people have a somewhat tougher task in regards to certain apsects of life. You on the other hand act like everything is fucking harder for the black race and you automatically blame it on racism. That is bullshit. There are things that are harder for a white man, and things that are harder for a black man. That is life. The population is more white than it is black. That is fact. That is the reason why we are considered the dominant race. We are more in number, we are more in power because of our number. Fucking deal with it and stop bitching and making excuses.

1. Because the main reason nigger was developed was as a racially derogatory term towards blacks, for being black. Cracker was developed as a retort against being called a nigger or against any white person being racist. It's just that simple. Just because you don't want a word to mean something, doesn't mean it doesn't. You've been told by past generations that using curse words were bad (fuck, shit, bitch, ass) and that's what they became, they are not just any other word. I hope you can understand that.

2. One can believe he represented it because he was voted for by the people, the people who followed him fought and died in huge numbers for the cause by which he held the basis of their country to be. Notice how when the grand populous doesn't agree with the leader, they speak up and react against it (i.e. Bush) not die by the thousands every day? And yes, it was based upon color because it was still only about color years later, you know that whole segregation thing? Yeah, blacks only had inferior living conditions because the whites gave it to them, and even if they were on the same level, they'd be considered inferior. That is the basis of racism.

3. Of course I know blacks aren't the only ones, minorities as a whole are the ones who suffer. Times where you have been profiled it was because you were the minority for whatever reason. Would you honestly say to me that if a black guy and a white guy walked into the same store, wearing the same clothes, and behaving with the same demeanor they would get treated equally? Nope. That goes for any minority though, but HERE, we're talking about racial minorities and they injustices we suffer.

You know why hip-hop has mostly black people as the face of the culture? Because it was exploited to the point where all anyone wants to hear hip-hop talk about is violence. Don't even try telling me I'm wrong. Now, if violence is what's going to sell, who the fuck do the WHITE people running the industry put on the covers of the albums? The people they consider to be more believably violent............BLACK PEOPLE. Big fuckin surprise I know.

Now don't try to judge me and say I blame everything on racism, I blame things racism has caused on racism. If a white guy gets promoted before me, I don't think it's racist. If a white guy gets promoted before me and the manager throws mildly racist jokes at me all the time, then it's racism. There is a difference. Jokes about race being part of a large array of jokes isn't racist, but when someone only tells racist jokes you have to realize that there is obviously some inherent racism. Shit like that is why I notice more than others. You think I see everything as racism because I choose to notice racist tendencies and how it affects everyday life while you completely ignore it and think everything is equal. I practice racial conscientiousness not racial sensitivity.

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1. Yeah, I'll agree with you on that. I have basically said the term "nigger" and "cracker" both only come across as how you have been led to perceive the words, much like every word in the English language basically. But, you look at the word "cracker" and go by definition alone which is a single-minded way to look at the term. You think that if a white guy is friends with a gang of black guys and he walks into a room with them and there are countless other black dudes in there, and they all go "here's the cracker" or "look at this snowflake" you don't think he gets hurt by that. Its not just the word itself, it is how it is being used. Its like, I have black friends... and I try not to drop the n-bomb, but a couple of times when I've been drunk I'll be like "that's my nigga" to him. He doesn't get offended, he just laughs it off because it isn't being used in a derrogatory way. The thing is with a lot of blacks, not necessarily you, but a lot hear the word "nigger" from a white person and automatically think it is racist. This is probably mostly down to the white race in general more often than not using the word in that manner. But, you can't really be accusing everyone of being racist if they say the word just because of past generations using it in that manner all the time. I only get annoyed that a white person is forbidden to use that word or any other similar to it in definition, whereas a black guy can have free range with the words "cracker" "honkey" "snowflake" and get away with it.


2. Ok right, people followed him and fought for him and his beliefs. Now that could be put down to people being sheep. I'm sure the first few hundred, thousand or whatever believed in his cause on their own right. But, all it takes is enough people to follow something, and then the sheep come and start following it because everyone else is and they don't want to be outcasts of society for going against it. That is why stuff like that can get a massive following and only a few with enough courage will fight against it. But, ultimately, the few will be wrong because they are outweighed by the many. That right there is just another case of people believing what they've been told and not choosing to look at it from their own perspective.
Me, I'm one who firmly believes that slavery is fucking gay and what the white race did back then was an atrocity. But, again, everytime a racial debate comes up between whites and blacks now, the slavery card is always thrown into the mix like it was us of todays generation that enslaved your ancestors. Slavery is a thing of the past, it had everything to do with the racial shit from back then, but it was abolished. So it has no impact on racial shit at present with todays youth unless they have had it drilled into their heads from their parents, who had it from their grandparents etc...etc. Once again, people are digging into the past to try and make excuses for their troubles today.


3. Exactly. Everyone can be put in the minority at some point. But the thing is, if a black guy and white guy walk into the store with nothing separating them but colour of skin.... maybe the black guy will get treated poorly. Maybe the white guy will get treated poorly. It all depends on the people inside the store really. I can put this down to personal experience. I've been into a store up in Birmingham with a couple of black dudes... and this is a store that sells American Clothing Lines that you would see the stereotypical black guy wearing. I walk in, and what happens... I get all the fucking wierd looks and one guy even told me I was in the wrong fucking store and I needed to go down to fucking preppy clothing stores. What the fuck is that if not a direct racial comment based on my skin colour.


Now, I'm not trying to judge you. I didn't mean you in general blame everything on racial profiling and shit. I was speaking in particular about a lot of black people who do blame every bad hand they get dealt on racism. There are those who tough it out and take what life gives them and fight back against it and earn their way. I'm sure a lot of black people's problems in life do come down to racism, but not all. And its not like it ain't the same for other people. Everyone is judged by the way they look, its called first impressions and all... if the person judging is a close minded prejudicial ass-hat then, well... I guess it sucks. But not everyone is like that. Everyone has it bad, thats life. It is unfair and a bitch. I can appreciate all races trials and tribulations, problems in life and that shit. But I just don't like it when they make a big deal about it and act like its all about them, they are being discriminated against, the world hates them because of their colour of skin, religion, upbringing, general appearance.

But, I can feel you on all of your opinions. I just have my own. So I guess we can just agree to disagree.