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09-25-07, 03:23 PM | #76 | |||||||
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^lol.
but 4real. what people dont know is that the best rappers 4real aren't on tv, there not on radio, there not evn underground. but the real best emcees are in..... the colleges & high schools. i dare anyone of y'all to go to a high school and i bet that u are going to see some of the most gifted musicians that'chuve ever heard or seen. cuz in the streets erybodys tryna be hard, on tv & radio erybodys tryna be commercial and on these albums the labels do more work & editing than the actual artist prolly do. but in the school invironment erybody pretty much does them creatively. i've grraduated already but i know that when i get my label off the ground i'mma recruit some high school talent cuz thats where its at and erybody is true to there craft.
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09-25-07, 10:43 PM | #77 | ||||
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buddy thats so stupid, and its making me mad how these sheeps are walking in this thread and agreeing to this. are you kidding me? the kick dum shit you said was so stupid, what music has to have a complex beat or lyrics to be good? like no it cud be simple and better than any new complex shit, but thats just what the example you gave. honestly what ur saying is, what you enjoy is good music, and the bad music you dont like is bad music. and were in this thread was I talking about another Genre? dude you cant just bring rock or something in here. as I'm a hiphop head, i know little on other genre, that doesnt take away my knowledge on hiphop. and now on the mainstream, it doesn't matter when they were mainstream, when they were mainstream made them a mainstream artist. people know them as a mainstream artist. even though it was the past it still made them that, and some still have stayed mainstream artist to this day. like today mainstream isnt all that garage you say it is, off T.V mainstream artist are making GREAT music, the shit you see on T.V is majority commerical in my mind, thats what alot of artists do, but good mainstream artist like Lil wayne dont need to do that.
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09-25-07, 10:48 PM | #78 | ||||
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this is sad, you prove my point on how dumb some of you guys are on this site. sad thing is someone will come in and agree with you too. so yeah ehh, age really detemines music? if anything the older the better with the more experience they go through.
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09-25-07, 11:07 PM | #79 | ||||||
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No, I'm saying the complete opposite to that. I don't know what you were thinking. You just said to me the exact same thing I said to you. "honestly what ur saying is, what you enjoy is good music, and the bad music you dont like is bad music." Uhhh... I'm pretty sure I raved on an on for a few paragraphs about how music is down to taste, and just because somebody (yes, I am a person, "somebody" includes me) doesn't like a certain kind of music doesn't mean it's bad music. There is, however, an objective standard of what is good music and what isn't. This is completely different to whether people dislike it or like it. For example, Mozart was a musical genius, it is a fact that his compositions were good, musically. That doesn't affect whether people like his music or not. People who know anything about music can obviously see that Mozart made good music, whether they like his music or not. They don't need to like or dislike a song to see whether it is good or bad. My point, which you completely proved to be true, is that you don't know enough about music in general to be able to see what is good music and what isn't. Yes, you know what is good music TO YOU and what is bad music TO YOU, but that doesn't mean the music you think is good is actually good, and the music you think is bad is actually bad. You proved that when you said that you were a hip hop head, and you only know about hip hop. So let me tell you exactly what I mean in relation to this thread so you don't miss the message again: 1. You think 50 cent's latest album is incredible. 2. From a neutral point of view, looking at the album factually, there is nothing special about it. It is average. 3. You are unable to see that it is average because your understanding of music is limited.
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09-26-07, 08:49 PM | #80 | |||
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yeah but you judge the music that comes out now to the "OLD shit"
I hate when people do this, they trash on songs beacasue it isn't like the old stuff that came out. but thats beside the point, im here talking about 50cents album. and its always the people on the net hating 50...
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09-26-07, 09:28 PM | #81 | |||||
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wtf? I never said anything about comparing new shit to old shit. If a new song is good, it's just good, that's all there is to it, and if a new song is bad, it's just bad. Why can't you understand that?
50 cent's new album is just not good. That's all. It doesn't matter who likes it or doesn't like it, because the fact is that it is an average album. Yeah, because people on the internet live inside it and don't exist in the real world... wtf? Everybody on the internet is in the world and has a life. If it was always people on the net hating 50, then how the fuck are you on the net NOT hating 50? You are on the net, just like anybody else on this site. Are you special for some reason? You must be, because it's impossible for awesome, cool people like you to have access to the internet, since they are too busy being cool having real lives. They don't have time to hang around on internet forums, which are only full of nerds, despite the fact that you are on an internet forum right now and you have over 2000 posts. You're either a nerd, or the internet is accessible to normal, everyday people. omg I wonder which one it is?!?!
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09-26-07, 11:24 PM | #82 | ||||
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thats your opinion..thats not a fact... you dont set the standard for whether and album is above or below average... if someone thinks this album is the greatest album ever than so be it... that is there opinion and there not wrong for thinking that...someone who may not even like rap may think this album is complete trash and they are not wrong for thinking that... you can't say it is a fact when in all reality what you were saying is common sense that it's just your opinion
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09-26-07, 11:33 PM | #83 | |||||
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my fuckin gonnorea is fire.
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09-27-07, 12:25 AM | #84 | ||||||
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Music is like a science... Do you have any idea how complex it is? Yes, it's true that music is subjective. I know that. I've mentioned what you're saying a couple of times now in this thread. Separate to music's subjectiveness is the objective side of music. I am no expert, and I am not a musicologist, but anybody with a little bit of musical sense can see that 50 cent is not particularly talented, and that his album is not particularly special. Why can't you understand that? It's just how things are. If a musicologist did an analysis of curtis, they would come to the conclusion that musically, it is sub par. It has nothing to do with who likes it or who doesn't, or how many sales it has, or whether people love it or hate it. It is just, objectively, from a musical standpoint, sub par. On the other hand, if they did an analysis of an album like Nas' Illmatic, they would come to the conclusion that Nas is skillful in the execution of his chosen craft, and that the album is put together well. It is a good album. It doesn't matter who likes it or who doesn't. It doesn't matter who thinks it's good and who thinks it sucks... From a factual, objective standpoint, it is a good album.
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09-27-07, 09:19 AM | #85 | |||||||||
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you shoudl just stop talking
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09-27-07, 01:43 PM | #86 | ||||||||
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i never said that age determinds music. i'm saying that high schools and colleges are a place where you can find some of the most talented people. i'll even include prisons. and places like that. cuz some of the most talented people never get heard. theres dudes out in the streets that can shoot ball better than jordan, theres people locked up who can paint better than picasso and there sure as hell are undiscovered people who can rap way better than ur favorite rappers. popularity does not mean that'chure better at something, it just means that'chu came in contact with other famous people earlier. hell, master p is more rich and popular than lil wayne is but that sure as hell dont mean that he's a better rapper. well.... to u it prolly does but in reality it dont.
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09-27-07, 08:30 PM | #87 | ||||
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this has to be the dumbest thing I've heard. I'm hoping no one agree's with this kid. and Turm, music isn't a science, music is a art. even you should know that, and with a art everyone is gonna look at it differnet. there isnt a final way to judge a album by saying "average" and shit.
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09-27-07, 08:56 PM | #88 | ||||
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damn yall still on this bull shit lmao yo everyone got there opinion bout music....leave it there....lolz....
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09-27-07, 09:07 PM | #89 | ||||||
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OK, so if I did a shit on a canvas it would be just as good as Hokusai's Great Wave or The Mona Lisa. People might like it, so that surely means that nobody, ever, can analyze art in an objective way and see that the other artworks I mentioned were made with more skill by masterful artists... Despite the fact that people have been objectively analyzing art for centuries... And also objectively analyzing music for centuries... I really don't know what you're talking about. You are trying to ignore the fact that there IS a standard that can be applied to music, music IS complex and intricate like a science... That doesn't mean it isn't an art. Shit, even ART is complex and intricate like a science.
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09-29-07, 05:07 AM | #90 | |||
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no there isnt a standard, thats where you get it wrong.
this is what you were brought up to believe, there isnt no standard to any kind of art, its impossible. its not accurate, it just doesnt work. what part dont you get.
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