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Old 03-14-06, 01:05 AM   #1
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Man, you're going way off issue now. Talking about naimals eating their young and likening it to cannibalism is unrealistic seeing that animals eat their young to preserve their food source by having one less mouth to feed. You're speculating now, not speaking facts. I'm looking for facts.
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^well the king didn't have food so wouldn't it be right if i said he ate his son to preserve his own food source by having one less mouth to feed??like you said with the animals..isnt that the same thing???


Nope. THE KING has food. He's the king and gets provided for first and above anyone else. How is this even an issue??
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AHAHAHAHAHA. For starters, "The Great Flood" didn't destroy the world lmao ahahahahhaha. Think about it man...seriously..if noah suppsoedly took 2 of every animal (even those that DON'T LIVE ANYWHERE NEAR THE CLIMATE THIS IS SAID TO TAKE PLACE - Like Polar Bears, Seals, Penguins, etc) on his Ark and it was packed so tight that there was only room for him, not even the exotic breeds of plant life that outnumber humans and animals alike. - then where'd everyone else come from? There's no 2 humans on the ark homey. No wat the flood could have "destroyed the world" like you say it would have.

Think about it man. Seriously.

Secondly, Unlike the Flood of Egypt, There are NO high water marks on monuments (like the one on Sphynx) ANYWHERE to prove that ANY flood occured ANYWHERE!!!!

Third, how could the flood cover the entire world. Think about it man. Floods come form bodies of water (vapor or not) moving to new locations and unleashing the torrent. That's a movement of water. Where would all this extra water come from to flood the entire globe?? Water never leaves the earth, it evaporates and falls again as rain, so where did this extra water get shipped in from to flood the earth?

And finally, lets pretend that this flood happened, that wouldn't have destroyed the earth. That would have (supposedly) killed all the life on the planet shor to what was on the Ark. Not destroy the earth. That'd be like saying you taking a bath would be destroying your body, which is...UNpossible
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First of all it wasn't just Noah, he had a wife and 3 sons i believe and they each had a wife......just to clear that up.......and we are talking about GOD here he doesn't have to stick to the rules of science and evaportation, he MADE it rain for 40 days and 40 nigths non-stop,


ok, so you're saying that 8 people repopulated the entire planet of all these various races and cultures that are known to exist without interruption throughout time? cmon man, be realistic.

Also, We both (for discussional purposes) agree that it rained, why are you trying to prove something that's esablished? My question is "where did all this EXTRA water to raise ALL water levels globally like you're saying come from"?
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That would have (supposedly) killed all the life on the planet shor to what was on the Ark. Not destroy the earth. That'd be like saying you taking a bath would be destroying your body, which is...UNpossible.

He did not destroy earth, the bible said he destroyed the WORLD meaning humans, plants, everything on it.....and you provided the perfect example with the bath thing...


He didn't destory the earth? That's funny, because I could have swore that's exactly what you meant when you said:

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Where did "God" destroy the world that we still live in?

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and about what you said right there ^^^

you ever heard of 'The Flood', Noah's Ark.....he flooded the world killing all the people because they were so wicked except for Noah and his family and 2 of each animal....and they lived and were told to restart basically


Isn't this you leaping in the defense of "how and where "God" destroyed the earth"?? smh...

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You take a bath and destroy the dirt, fungus, what ever it maybe on you,
GOD flooded destroyed the world, humans, plants

Your body you don't destroy you just cleanse it
The Earth GOD didn't destroy he cleansed it from the evil that overcame it...Enough Said


I'm glad you said that because now you finally see what it is I'm trying to say. You taking a bath dosen't destroy your body (like I just said) yet, you see that a flood on the earth destroys the earth?....yeah.


P.S. Using quotes would be nice, so I can make out what you're trying to say from what I already said.
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Old 03-14-06, 01:13 AM   #2
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yes i am saying those 8 people re-popuated...we started with Adam and Eve right?? that was just 2 and they seemed to populate just fine....

He didn't destroy the Earth meaning the planet...when 'I' say world im refering to like the humans, plants, structures like the physical stuff.....sorry I could have worded it better....

but I'm tired...we def. should finish this convo on Aim or somethin 2-morrow its interesting hearing the "other" side of things and healthy i think...my aim is lyricalyillest33
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Old 03-14-06, 02:10 AM   #3
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yes i am saying those 8 people re-popuated...we started with Adam and Eve right?? that was just 2 and they seemed to populate just fine....


I'm glad you mentioned that, because this is where the lies in the bible start to unravel. Right at the beginning.

Adam and Eve, first two people right?

Adam and eve had two sons (Cain and Able) right, one killed the other? Now look what happened to Cain after he killed his brother and got banished:
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16 So Cain went out from the LORD's presence and lived in the land of Nod, [b] east of Eden.

17 Cain lay with his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Cain was then building a city, and he named it after his son Enoch.


Hol up..rewind for a second..so cain gets to this new town east of Eden and lays with his wife?? Wait..his Wife????? That would mean that she is obviously around his age and old enough to reproduce, which means she had to simultaneously exist around the same time that HE did. Yet the bible makes no mention of cain having any sisters, nor adam and eve having any daughters and furthermore, they don't say "cain laid with his sister". She was obviosuly someone completely irrelevant to their lineage, so where did she come from?

No way that Adam and Eve populated the earth by them selves and the bible blows their own spot on this numerous times over.


I wish I had that picture bible I used to eread as a kid because it showed cain and his wife in a city with people in it. "How'd they get there" is one of the first questions I asked about the bible, which was the start of me getting kicked out of bible classes by 16 and causing my instructor to cry. Definitely not fun lol.

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He didn't destroy the Earth meaning the planet...when 'I' say world im refering to like the humans, plants, structures like the physical stuff.....sorry I could have worded it better....


"the world as we know it". But even that stilldosen't add up to the fact that water dosen't multiply it self, it just moves, so to flood th entire globe would be literally impossible. Even if all the polar icecaps melted, the globe still wouldn't be flooded. The bible tells some stories that are simply complete fabrications man. The Great Flood is one of countless.
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but I'm tired...we def. should finish this convo on Aim or somethin 2-morrow its interesting hearing the "other" side of things and healthy i think...my aim is lyricalyillest33


I'm down for that. But why not here where everyone can learn from the findings?
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Old 03-14-06, 04:07 PM   #4
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I'm glad you mentioned that, because this is where the lies in the bible start to unravel. Right at the beginning.

Adam and Eve, first two people right?

Adam and eve had two sons (Cain and Able) right, one killed the other? Now look what happened to Cain after he killed his brother and got banished:


Hol up..rewind for a second..so cain gets to this new town east of Eden and lays with his wife?? Wait..his Wife????? That would mean that she is obviously around his age and old enough to reproduce, which means she had to simultaneously exist around the same time that HE did. Yet the bible makes no mention of cain having any sisters, nor adam and eve having any daughters and furthermore, they don't say "cain laid with his sister". She was obviosuly someone completely irrelevant to their lineage, so where did she come from?

No way that Adam and Eve populated the earth by them selves and the bible blows their own spot on this numerous times over.


I wish I had that picture bible I used to eread as a kid because it showed cain and his wife in a city with people in it. "How'd they get there" is one of the first questions I asked about the bible, which was the start of me getting kicked out of bible classes by 16 and causing my instructor to cry. Definitely not fun lol.



"the world as we know it". But even that stilldosen't add up to the fact that water dosen't multiply it self, it just moves, so to flood th entire globe would be literally impossible. Even if all the polar icecaps melted, the globe still wouldn't be flooded. The bible tells some stories that are simply complete fabrications man. The Great Flood is one of countless.


I'm down for that. But why not here where everyone can learn from the findings?



cain and able were the first songs, but it sayz in the bible that adam and eve had 100's of kidz.
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Old 03-14-06, 04:27 PM   #5
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cain and able were the first songs, but it sayz in the bible that adam and eve had 100's of kidz.



where does it say that? Eve is a mortal human being, and as a matter of fact, one of the first mortal human beings supposedly. Therefore it would be IMPOSSIBLE for her to have "100's" of children.

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I'm also still looking to see where it said God destroyed the world and where god suppsedly said "I regret making humanity" as have been suggested.
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Old 03-14-06, 04:31 PM   #6
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where does it say that? Eve is a mortal human being, and as a matter of fact, one of the first mortal human beings supposedly. Therefore it would be IMPOSSIBLE for her to have "100's" of children.

For others reading this,
I'm also still looking to see where it said God destroyed the world and where god suppsedly said "I regret making humanity" as have been suggested.



This is actually one of the issues I have with the bible, reconciling the creation account to what really happened. Some people have speculated that "Adam" and "Eve" represented a nation of people, not just two.

Here's the problem with thinking Adam and Eve were one man and one woman.

They had two kids at first, Cain and Abel. THat means, there were literally just FOUR PEOPLE on earth at the time. However, after Cain killed Abel, God banished him out of his home land. Cain then said, "God, what if someone tries to kill me." Then, God replied, "I'll put a mark on your head and you will be safe." <--I'm paraphrasing. If there were only 3 people on earth at the time, what in the WORLD was Cain talking about?

I actually support the Adam/Eve nation theory.

However, it also would have been possible for eve to have 100s of kids. People in those days lived hundreds of years. Remeber, the oldest living person in the bible lived to be over 900 years old, Methuselah.


P.S. The account of God's flooding of the earth is in Genesis, as well as the statement, "It repented him that he made man." God felt sorry that so much wickedness had overrun the earth. So, he put an end to it.
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Geological studies show that's it's scientifically impossible for the Great Flood to have occured...ask any knowledgeable geologist..p.
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