*coughs*

werd

oh and someone bring up the point i made, since i was like, the only one to make a point. lol @ someone saying white people traveled everywhere and got lost. Again, my argument: Culture

The white dude's had kings and queens and wanted to Explore in the name of Kingdoms and Religion, so they borrowed money and went on white Quests. This wouldn't be possible, if they weren't white and in a white society created and maintained, by whites.

>_>

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i agree wit everything exept there reasons for the quest. their quest was for anything that could make them more powerful. now exclude everything i just said if you meant that to be included when you said kingdoms. but as far as religion im sure thats not why they originally left on these journeys. after they discoverd new places, they mightve had religious reasons then, but i just dont think that was on of their reasons for the initial voyage

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You can't really say. You don't know what was going on through their heads at the time, I just know from recorded history that some of the reasons were:

Kingdom building, Migrating to new lands, Being pioneers, Converting Religions.

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I knew you wouldn't have a rebuttal for my post.

^ sorry, i didn't even see it until just now.

when i said "your views on this issue are tainted by..." that wasn't talking down or insulting your point of view at all. that is expressing that it is MY opinion (as well as most scholars on Marxism) that the hegemonic (or dominant) society in which someone lives taints the way in which they view issues and what they assume to be the "natural" way to think. that was all i was saying. that wasn't me trying to talk down your opinion or anything, i think you misunderstood me... that was me expressing MY opinion.

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the world is a beurocratic asshole..

blay your right, however you look at this from the perspective of someone who will be successful due to schooling...

i got a friend who did a network admin course at a local education institute much like your community colleges.. he now earns around 7 to 8 grand a week, sometimes more through running his own IT business. the course cost $3200 this is quite similar to what im doing.


thats easily a good future for your family.. not to mention with that sort of money it opens doors to making a lot more through the right avenues.

its funny blay, after 12 months study.. i can probably earn a hell of a lot more than most university students busting their ass for years.

ill also have no debt..


and shit im glad ive had a few years swinging hammer and rapping, living life in the fast lane with absolutly no schooling obligations...... its been good.. and it also hasnt effected my ability to get a career and earn a lot of money....

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^ yup. and see, and in reality i understand that. i'm actually one of the kids who gets into arguments with kids here who think their degree will get them everything and that a degree is necessary in order to live a successful life. thats not what i believe... i think my opinion about alot of this stuff might be skewed in this thread b/c of the fact that i felt like i needed to defend myself against attacks from people claiming i "don't have a life" or "am taking shitty classes," etc. etc. etc. so, in an attempt to prove them wrong i may have given the false impression that i over-interpret the necessity of a 4-year degree.

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thats understandable.

but doesnt that bear similaritys to a lot of the apsectives of argumentitive behavior you were implying all the 'simpletons' on rapverse are acustomed to?

were you sinking to everyone elses level?

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^ in a sense, yes... i guess you're right.

but if i don't prove them wrong, then all of those "simpletons" will claim "victory" in their minds and go on living their e-lives thinking they are some kind of geniuses and have the world all figured out.

oh well, i guess you're right - the solution is just not giving a damn and saying PEACE.

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exactly..


unless your into verbal jousting... but i think youll find its actually a common trait to make accusations on other people based on characteristics that you present yourself.. you notice other people doing it because youve been there and done that yourself.. gotta always keep an eye on that one.. even the best of us fall for it now and then whether people notice or not..

but in not giving a damn.. youve done the right thing dude.. so its all gravy really on chatverse.

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