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Old 10-28-09, 08:06 PM   #1
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That is why your God is a jealous cunt and even though it probably doesn't exist, I fucking hate it and always will.
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Old 10-28-09, 08:07 PM   #2
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All I can say is I'll pray for you bro.
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Old 10-28-09, 08:54 PM   #3
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wow...Glory to God man...


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Old 10-28-09, 10:23 PM   #4
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Wow, nothing accomplished.

it started in another thread with "they always see it how they see it, and they're always gonna see it as if we always see it how we always see it."

which turned into 'Adam come on in, we're here to talk about why you don't believe'

which evolved and finally ended with "That's why the God you believe in is a stupid fucking concept and I hate the God that you believe in"

debated with "glory to god!"

Winnar in atheism's eyes: Adam
Winnar in theism's eyes: God
Winnar in agnosticism's eyes: neither

it s33mz tharz 3 winnarz h33r mabe loool
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Old 10-29-09, 08:14 AM   #5
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Wow, nothing accomplished.

it started in another thread with "they always see it how they see it, and they're always gonna see it as if we always see it how we always see it."

which turned into 'Adam come on in, we're here to talk about why you don't believe'

which evolved and finally ended with "That's why the God you believe in is a stupid fucking concept and I hate the God that you believe in"

debated with "glory to god!"

Winnar in atheism's eyes: Adam
Winnar in theism's eyes: God
Winnar in agnosticism's eyes: neither

it s33mz tharz 3 winnarz h33r mabe loool



agree with 1 thing...God is the winner here

nobody's mad except the devil...

this dialogue was great...

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Old 10-29-09, 03:11 AM   #6
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They are just lucky that I am a pacifist otherwise I would knock them the fuck out. Word.
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Old 10-29-09, 04:02 AM   #7
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there are so many blind sheep in this thread is pathetic. Dabatos, hop of the q's nut sack.

as you were.
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Old 10-29-09, 12:15 PM   #8
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there are so many blind sheep in this thread is pathetic. Dabatos, hop of the q's nut sack.

as you were.


lolz................. only rebuking bro, nothing else.

Haven't heard anyone say as you were since the marines bro dang lol.
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Old 10-29-09, 07:55 PM   #9
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So because you believe its not a sin, its not a sin? If it says lying is bad but you think its right, that mean's its okay to lie? So when the bible says murder is a sin yet you think murder is okay because you believe its okay than its not a sin because you say its not a sin? Because you think its okay does not mean it is okay. These things that are written in the Bible are written to help us as well. For ex.

It says dont lie. Why? Lying isn't good period. Keep lying and it will come back to haunt you. If you dont care, than people will see you as a liar and who would trust you at that point? Thats why it says don't lie for your own benefit.

Porn, it talks about how that is wrong and not good for you. why? Porn is entertaining but also causes you to lust things in the world of fantasy. causing you to live in a world of fantasy to the point you would go to video's to feel content. Yeah Porn makes you horny and feels great to watch. But at the end, would you want everyone at work to know you watched that? What if they all knew? Yeah its normal, but what about to all the women you might want to date? They would get turned off, and you know they would. Why? Because it's not right.

Adultery: It talks about how thats wrong int he Bible. Why?!? Because you're hurting the one you loved and promised to only love until death does you part.

The bible is not judgmental. I never judged anyone, its not my job to do that. Who doesn't sin? Everyone sin's but its up to you if you want to try your best to repent from it. The things in the Bible isn't there to show us how good we can be but to show us how bad we are. That's awesome that you want to help other people and respect another man 100% even if their opinion differs. Thats great that you will always be caring and helpful. I never said anyone is horrible. All i have been doing is rebuking what everyone has been saying. They said "This" about the Bible, when it really meants "that."

I have double checked myself. NO ONE is perfect. No one can ever live a perfect life. But it does that mean you can't try to live as perfect as God would love to see you live?

sin = You doing what you believe what is wrong.

If you do what you believe is wrong than thats a sin.

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Old 10-29-09, 08:40 PM   #10
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So because you believe its not a sin, its not a sin? If it says lying is bad but you think its right, that mean's its okay to lie? So when the bible says murder is a sin yet you think murder is okay because you believe its okay than its not a sin because you say its not a sin? Because you think its okay does not mean it is okay. These things that are written in the Bible are written to help us as well. For ex.

It says dont lie. Why? Lying isn't good period. Keep lying and it will come back to haunt you. If you dont care, than people will see you as a liar and who would trust you at that point? Thats why it says don't lie for your own benefit.

Porn, it talks about how that is wrong and not good for you. why? Porn is entertaining but also causes you to lust things in the world of fantasy. causing you to live in a world of fantasy to the point you would go to video's to feel content. Yeah Porn makes you horny and feels great to watch. But at the end, would you want everyone at work to know you watched that? What if they all knew? Yeah its normal, but what about to all the women you might want to date? They would get turned off, and you know they would. Why? Because it's not right.

Adultery: It talks about how thats wrong int he Bible. Why?!? Because you're hurting the one you loved and promised to only love until death does you part.

The bible is not judgmental. I never judged anyone, its not my job to do that. Who doesn't sin? Everyone sin's but its up to you if you want to try your best to repent from it. The things in the Bible isn't there to show us how good we can be but to show us how bad we are. That's awesome that you want to help other people and respect another man 100% even if their opinion differs. Thats great that you will always be caring and helpful. I never said anyone is horrible. All i have been doing is rebuking what everyone has been saying. They said "This" about the Bible, when it really meants "that."

I have double checked myself. NO ONE is perfect. No one can ever live a perfect life. But it does that mean you can't try to live as perfect as God would love to see you live?

sin = You doing what you believe what is wrong.

If you do what you believe is wrong than thats a sin.

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I didnt say because i beleive its not a sin. YOU call it a sin, i dont beleive in the word sin, ca n you not respect that I dont beleive the same things as you? or are you that closed minded that if I dont beleive the world turns exactly how you do.. that makes me wrong?

Im not saying your wrong.. I appreciatte and respect your beleifs. they are yours.. not mine.. but Im not here tryna prove your wrong.. Im here tryna tell you that we all beleive in diffrent meanings..outcomes..reasons..rights..wrongs.. your christians allways paint it like.. 'if they dont beleive what we beleive they are wrong' why? what makes you right and us wrong? I see it we are all right.. because we are living whats suitable for our lives.. I have the freedom to choose my own thoughts..ideas..knowledge and outlook on life.. and if you cant respect that..then its peace.

Stop tryna force your beleifs down everyones throats.. people will choose to beleive if an when they want to.. its not like its hard to go out and learn about god and his ways.. let people make the decision fcor themself.. no one likes to be TOLD how to think.. unless they are weak minded.. irony?


and to focus more directly on the content of your post:

Porn: how the fuck does the bible say porn is bad? you telling me that mary and her home girls made porn back in the day..?? outtahere.

Lies: yes lies are bad.. that goes without saying.. but EVERY hman on earth lies.. its a part of life.. even you lie and you will do untill the day you die.. I personally try my best to be straight forward and honest.. but sometimes a white lie is suitable.

Adultry: ye sits wrong.. but common sense tells me that.. not the bible.

everyone for there own brother..
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Old 10-29-09, 08:09 PM   #11
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*runs 3 miles, walks 2 miles, drives home, drinks a bottle of water, sits in his reclining chair, turns on the computer, signs on rv, reads the last two posts, and begins typing:*

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Old 10-29-09, 09:33 PM   #12
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i just have a quick question... Q, you are a christian than you believe that Jesus forgives you of your sins against him and the father. But also by being a christian you know that you will not be absolved from your sins unless you are TRULY sorry for your sins... and as i was tought in my 12 years of catholic school, if you repeat an action of sin than you are not TRULY sorry for that sin, and hence are not TRULY forgiven.....

i mean you can say your sorry but if you repeat the action you are not really sorry and to think you are sorry is lying to yourself, but as you would know...cant lie to god... so in fact you are not forgiven for your sins... unless you stop lying to yourself and become truly sorry for your ways.....

all in all its just something i wanted to clear up with your conflicting argument
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i just have a quick question... Q, you are a christian than you believe that Jesus forgives you of your sins against him and the father. But also by being a christian you know that you will not be absolved from your sins unless you are TRULY sorry for your sins... and as i was tought in my 12 years of catholic school, if you repeat an action of sin than you are not TRULY sorry for that sin, and hence are not TRULY forgiven.....

i mean you can say your sorry but if you repeat the action you are not really sorry and to think you are sorry is lying to yourself, but as you would know...cant lie to god... so in fact you are not forgiven for your sins... unless you stop lying to yourself and become truly sorry for your ways.....

all in all its just something i wanted to clear up with your conflicting argument



Whose repeating an action? I mentioned this about 4 pages ago when I marked the distinction between us being sinners by nature (Original sin caused by Adam's fall) and sinning by practice...

I agree that sinning by practice, meaning not being contrite for sin, will bring judment and God hates it...

That SHOULDN'T be the life of a Christian...

Adam said earlier that he fornicates, lies, and that he makes no qualms about it...That = practicing sin...

A true believer will sin, be contrite, but STRIVE toward being more like Christ...not boast in rebellion.

So, again, I ask...where are your assumptions coming from? I don't practice sin. But, when I do fall, I thank God that he's given us Christ who is the propitiation for our sin...by the shedding of his blood.



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Old 10-30-09, 12:33 AM   #14
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i just have a quick question... Q, you are a christian than you believe that Jesus forgives you of your sins against him and the father. But also by being a christian you know that you will not be absolved from your sins unless you are TRULY sorry for your sins... and as i was tought in my 12 years of catholic school, if you repeat an action of sin than you are not TRULY sorry for that sin, and hence are not TRULY forgiven.....

i mean you can say your sorry but if you repeat the action you are not really sorry and to think you are sorry is lying to yourself, but as you would know...cant lie to god... so in fact you are not forgiven for your sins... unless you stop lying to yourself and become truly sorry for your ways.....

all in all its just something i wanted to clear up with your conflicting argument


So you're telling me this. You have lied. You have prolly accidently stolen a pen from work or school. You have looked at a women with lust and even watched porn. And you were prolly sorry for your sin. Yet, you will always do it accidentally. You will always commit sin. Everyone sin's. You will always sin. Its impossible to not sin. God will "always" forgive you when you ask for forgiveness but truly mean it. So since you are a catholic. You know that none of your sins are forgiven because most of the sins you are sorry for will be committed again.
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Old 10-29-09, 09:36 PM   #15
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also the trying to save others by bringing jesus in their lives is actually against gods will....

he made everyone in his likeness and gave everyone free will to choose him....sure i understand (for the fire analogy) shouting out hey your house is on fire, but you would have no right to run in and save them unless they asked to be saved...sure you can give them the information but GOD gave them the right to choose what to do with that information, and if GOD isnt trying to make them believe anything in a certian way, what gives YOU that right.......
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dad said, son you're fucking high
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so i took my old man's advice
three sad semesters
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i thought about the army
i dropped out and joined a band instead


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