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Old 12-26-05, 06:14 PM   #1
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OH...one more thing

No one, including myself, in this thread is an expert on Virology or the AIDS virus. If you want the latest on the AIDS virus and research, read a science Journal. Anything else said in here is simply conjecture. The only FACTS are that people are dyign from a disease called AIDS. AIDS is a virus. If you want to understand why viruses are tough to combat, READ a science text book on viruses and how they work. Otherwise, arguing about where it came from is pointless. Meanwhile, people are still struggling to develop a vaccine for it. There IS NO vaccine for ANY virus. Why? Viruses are not technically ALIVE. That's why anti-biotics don't work on them. The root of antibiotics? Anti-BIOSIS...BIO = LIFE

You can't "KILL" what's not alive...The science involved is highly complicated...almost science fiction in nature.

But, there will be a vaccine sooner or later. It's only a matter of time now. The sad reality is, drug companies just have no incentive. Think about it. If you are well, they don't make money. And, the cost of development is more than some developing countries can afford.
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Old 12-26-05, 06:50 PM   #2
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OH...and ONE MORE THING APEXX...You and ya boy Invektive ran around this board at one point saying "Q has AIDS"...blah

So, now...u just said "ANYONE AROUND THE WORLD" can get AIDS from an auto-immune shut down, basically

So...where'd all that shit come from? Gay people aren't the only ones susceptible to AIDS...I've been saying that. And, yet, that's the only thing u can say to "hurt my feelings". I have AIDS?


pssf...nah...that I don't get.

I am HIV negative and I don't have AIDS. I believe in mind over matter. That's why I rarely, rarely even catch a cold. I get colds on average of once every two years, if that. The only thing I suffer from regularly is sinuses.
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Old 12-26-05, 06:54 PM   #3
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Aiight...I agree about the vaccines...We all got them as children...So, you're suggesting that vaccines for other diseases can predicate humans being susceptible to contracting AIDS?


So, if that's the truth, where does AIDS exist in your opinion?

Also, I was saying that it's possible--theoretically--that AIDS can exist in nature and simply be dormant, i.e. host animals. Ebola is certainly that way and only rears it's ugly head in spurts.
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Old 12-26-05, 07:08 PM   #4
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1 Aiight...I agree about the vaccines...We all got them as children...So, you're suggesting that vaccines for other diseases can predicate humans being susceptible to contracting AIDS?


2So, if that's the truth, where does AIDS exist in your opinion?

Also, I was saying that it's possible--theoretically--that AIDS can exist in nature and simply be dormant, i.e. host animals. Ebola is certainly that way and only rears it's ugly head in spurts.



1: Yes. That's what I was saying. Not just vaccines, but anything that puts a stress on the immune system, like drug use, lack of sleep, lack of iron and nutrients, fast food consumption, pork consumption, lack of certain sugars in the body, lack of excercise, etc. Any thing that will cause a strain on your body creates a strain on the immune system. Ever seen a person get sick with the Flu by doing nothing more than overworking them self and skipping sleep? How about people who seem to have a cold after a night of excessive drinking? Same thing. Run across this virus in that time and you'll suffer from it.

2: I have no opinion. I know that AIDS exists within our bodies waiting for the day it's unlocked. Even when you contract AIDS, it's shown that AIDS has an internal life of 30 days or less. Don't strain your system and you won't get AIDS. why? Because you can't get AIDS in a perfectly healthy body. Simple as that. Google for the key words that I mentioned earlier and we can skip this part of the discussion.
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Old 12-26-05, 07:29 PM   #5
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1: Yes. That's what I was saying. Not just vaccines, but anything that puts a stress on the immune system, like drug use, lack of sleep, lack of iron and nutrients, fast food consumption, pork consumption, lack of certain sugars in the body, lack of excercise, etc. Any thing that will cause a strain on your body creates a strain on the immune system. Ever seen a person get sick with the Flu by doing nothing more than overworking them self and skipping sleep? How about people who seem to have a cold after a night of excessive drinking? Same thing. Run across this virus in that time and you'll suffer from it.

2: I have no opinion. I know that AIDS exists within our bodies waiting for the day it's unlocked. Even when you contract AIDS, it's shown that AIDS has an internal life of 30 days or less. Don't strain your system and you won't get AIDS. why? Because you can't get AIDS in a perfectly healthy body. Simple as that. Google for the key words that I mentioned earlier and we can skip this part of the discussion.



Intersting theories...I'll be sure to look this up further...

I do agree that stress and illness are correlated. I've long heard this and read about it. But, I realized it myself when I stopped drinking and started working out 5 days a week. I stopped getting colds and headaches. And, my blood pressure went down. The only thing I believe stopping me from being 100% fit as a fiddle is my penchant for pork, fast foods, grease, salt, and other processed foods. I have completely eliminated junk foods from my diet. Pork is next.


but eeh...interesting stuff here
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Old 12-26-05, 07:27 PM   #7
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Yeah, I'm too lazy to go quote your post and shit..

But, I wasn't even going to post again because I'm not the type of person that needs to get the last word, but since you seem to be expecting a post from me.. it's all good.

For me it's just like.. I know I can get links, book references, etc. to back up 1. AIDs is not man made and 2. Viruses are living. Both on going debates, but there are scientists arguing both for and against both of them. You and me are on the opposite sides of the todom pole. Great. I don't really have anything else to say, though. I'm not going to leave a random post just to post. I'm not a fucking dumbass, and I wasn't about to come back in here and be like, "NAHH SUN, U'Z DA WRONG WUN!!" because I've already posted everything I've wanted to write.

So, whatever. I still don't think AIDs is man made.
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Yeah, I'm too lazy to go quote your post and shit..

But, I wasn't even going to post again because I'm not the type of person that needs to get the last word, but since you seem to be expecting a post from me.. it's all good.

For me it's just like.. I know I can get links, book references, etc. to back up 1. AIDs is not man made and 2. Viruses are living. Both on going debates, but there are scientists arguing both for and against both of them. You and me are on the opposite sides of the todom pole. Great. I don't really have anything else to say, though. I'm not going to leave a random post just to post. I'm not a fucking dumbass, and I wasn't about to come back in here and be like, "NAHH SUN, U'Z DA WRONG WUN!!" because I've already posted everything I've wanted to write.

So, whatever. I still don't think AIDs is man made.



In th face of dictionaries, medical science, disease tracking by the W.H.O. it self, hard documented evidence that shows no co-relation of AIDS to HIV, and a whoooooooooollllllllllleeeeeeeeeeee avalanche worth of evidence, you still ignore these? Of course you do. You had your mind made up before anyone said anything. To ignore facts is, well... the definition of ignorant. The definition in the same dictionaries that shape our entire language and grounds for comminucation, but you say is non-factual and proves nothing. Go fig.

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wat u mean wen u say even if u contract aids but right before it u said every1 has aids within their bodies

and aswell so if u have a perfectly healthy body u say u wont get aids?? so if u hav unprotected sex wit sum1 that has aids n u yourself hav perfectly healthy body u wont get it?????

oh and i did google the word n learned alot still readin it but none of wat i saw put it simple to just explainn wat it is its all articles and essays on it so i still aint got around to wat your sayin im gettin most it but sum parts are still abit dark



AIDS exists in our environment in a stage, say stage 2, which is the suffering of AIDS which can start the dying process. The form of AIDS dormant in our bodies is stage 1, where it's doing nothing other than waiting to be triggered by either a stage 2, or enough strain on your body to cause the dormant form in your body to become active.

But yeah, you're not gonna find a simplified answer to any question about AIDS because you're tlaking about the habits of virii. Its liek expecting a simple break down of cloning.

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during 1969
to 1971 to Africa and some countries such as India, Nepal and Pakistan where they thought the
population was becoming too large.13 They gave them all a free vaccination against smallpox;
but five years after receiving this vaccination, 60% of those inoculated were suffering from AIDS.
They tried to blame it on a monkey, which is nonsense. A professor at the University of Arkansas
made the claim that while studying the tissues of a dead chimpanzee she found traces of HIV.
The chimpanzee that she had tested was born in the United States 23 years earlier. It had lived its
entire life in a US military laboratory where it was used as an experimental animal in the
development of these diseases. When it died, its body was shipped to a storage place where it was
deep-frozen and stored in case they wanted to analyse it later. Then they decided that they didn't
have enough space for it, so they said, "Anybody want this dead chimpanzee?" and this researcher
from Arkansas said: "Yes. Send it down to the University of Arkansas. We are happy to get
anything that we can get." They shipped it down and she found HIV in it. That virus was acquired
by that chimpanzee in the laboratories where it was tested.14





that basically explains the whole monkey theory there is so much talked about the monkey theory wen takliun bout aids so thought id post since its used so many times in arguements


That paragraph above is completely false. No primate can contract HIV, seeing that the "H" stands for "Human" which therefore makes it impossible that HIV OR AIDS came from primates and spread to humans.
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Old 12-27-05, 12:05 AM   #10
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Oh...for the record, the theory that Apexx is referring to is one of MANY theories floating around

http://www.freeglossary.com/AIDS_conspiracy_theories


^^There are some more.


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Oh...for the record, the theory that Apexx is referring to is one of MANY theories floating around

http://www.freeglossary.com/AIDS_conspiracy_theories


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Please note Q, what I'm presenting isn't a theory. This isn't my guess or my take on things. The statements I'm discussing are medically proven and documented, so there's no ground to break to make any discoveries really, there by taking the "theory" out of the equasion.


BTW, also contrary to popular belief, AIDS is far from incurable. It breaks down easily once the blood is oxygenated like literally every other virus or illness or parasite in the world.
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Old 12-29-05, 07:50 PM   #12
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Please note Q, what I'm presenting isn't a theory. This isn't my guess or my take on things. The statements I'm discussing are medically proven and documented, so there's no ground to break to make any discoveries really, there by taking the "theory" out of the equasion.


BTW, also contrary to popular belief, AIDS is far from incurable. It breaks down easily once the blood is oxygenated like literally every other virus or illness or parasite in the world.



Technically, it is a theory until it's widely "accepted" enough to be called a "law" or in this case "fact/truth". That's how the science community works.


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Old 12-27-05, 03:47 AM   #13
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aids came from monkey......and no no one fucked a monkey the tribes in the rain forest ate the monkeys and gained it like that........i didnt read what everyone posted so if they all ready said that then blow me
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aids came from monkey......and no no one fucked a monkey the tribes in the rain forest ate the monkeys and gained it like that........i didnt read what everyone posted so if they all ready said that then blow me



lol, yeah, we can tell you didn't read anything in this thread becaus they theory's been shot to shit like 2-3 pages back lol.
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Old 12-28-05, 07:10 PM   #15
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meh worthless pitter patter.....the only thing that matters is what i say
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