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Old 02-12-06, 03:53 AM   #1
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nobody minds being respected more lol...watch some of my fellow black people be mad at me for being honest though, ROFLMAO
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Old 02-12-06, 03:55 AM   #2
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Theres so many black people who hold respectable jobs and make real large contributions to society as a whole.. Theres black politions, black business owners, black lawyers, black doctors, black police, black teachers, high paid black actors, etc etc.

Man its jus a lot of cats think the whole worlds against em cause they live in the ghetto... There are white people living in ghettos too with the exact same problems... So whats the difference...

Thats what I wanna know.... It aint jus black people getting dogged out.. Its ALL poor people.. And untill cats open their eyes up to this theres always gonna be people from minoritys out there that jus think theres STILL big plans to eradicate them from the face of the earth.........
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Old 02-12-06, 03:58 AM   #3
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Theres so many black people who hold respectable jobs and make real large contributions to society as a whole.. Theres black politions, black business owners, black lawyers, black doctors, black police, black teachers, high paid black actors, etc etc.

Man its jus a lot of cats think the whole worlds against em cause they live in the ghetto... There are white people living in ghettos too with the exact same problems... So whats the difference...

Thats what I wanna know.... It aint jus black people getting dogged out.. Its ALL poor people.. And untill cats open their eyes up to this theres always gonna be people from minoritys out there that jus think theres STILL big plans to eradicate them from the face of the earth.........

The difference is in those other ghettos, people aren't judged from the fucking moment they are born as being a fuckin race and automatically fit in some sort of category that can never change because the skin color they have is different.
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Old 02-12-06, 04:19 AM   #4
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The difference is in those other ghettos, people aren't judged from the fucking moment they are born as being a fuckin race and automatically fit in some sort of category that can never change because the skin color they have is different.

Negative.

Black people arnt judged by their skin color. They are judged just like everyone else. By the way they act, the way they dress and the way they talk.

Skin color doesent hinder anybody. But black people raised in ghettos get taught to speak with slang, act rough and dress like thugs.. And it has nothing to do with white people holding them back...

If someone born in that situation went and bought some respectable looking cloathes, fixed their way of talking and carried themselves in a different mannor.. Provided they had the brains, they could go anywhere with their lives...

And dont act like its just a black problem too.. Theres poor white people who cant get a job cause of those same reasons too... Welcome to the concept of poverty bro...

It aint about skin color anymore.. Thats a BIG misconception...
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Old 02-12-06, 02:17 PM   #5
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some of the most successful black people in the world have come from some of the most adverse ciscumstances you can imagine...Maya angelous was raped when she was younger and I believe she was also a prostitute at a point...Oprah was poor as hell, and raped when she was younger...she's down in history as the 1st self-made black female BILLionaire...don't ever say you "can't" do this because of one reason or another, if you want it, you'll work for it...yes, some white people get handed kushy jobs and don't have to work their way up a company cuz someone in their family owns some shit but black people that own shit do the SAME thing...nothing is impossible and when you don't succeed it's always easier to blame someone else and you're circumstances aren't always your fault but you gotta fight to get what and where you want in life...when you get lemons, you make lemonade...would people really appreciate shit if they didn't have to work for it? no...they'd let go and wouldn't care because they wouldn't appreciate shit...you think if Oprah grew up rich and never worked to get where she is, that she'd make life better for other people in bad situations and help them, you think she'd wake up and pray thanking GOD everyday for what he's allowed her to accomplish? HELL NO...I've never once heard her say that the way some white people are prevented her from doing or becoming what she wanted...if you don't succeed, it IS your fault


(to your post directly above this)

everyone is judged from the time they are born and beyond..nah scratch that, from BEFORE they're born...you are 1st judged by your race cuz your parents are already here, but as an individual you are first judged on your gender...that's the first category you are put into and judged from there...EVERYONE is judged, not just people from a certain class or race

Ok, don't try to throw a bunch of exceptions at me to prove that anyone can make it. My dad grew up in worse circumstances, has been working since he was 16, like 30% of the time he had two jobs. He has been working hard all his life, he never gets to go to sleep before 11 pm and has to get up at 4 am everyday. SO if what you're saying is true, he should have gotten somewhere by now because he worked so hard. But guess what, it's not what happened. I'm tired of all this pat on the back shit for black people who make it because it makes it look like a fucking charity. And once again, I never said I was blaming it on white people. I blame it on the government for the way shit is run that allows racists to get places, that's all.

And uh, i'm addressing the second part below.

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Negative.

Black people arnt judged by their skin color. They are judged just like everyone else. By the way they act, the way they dress and the way they talk.

Skin color doesent hinder anybody. But black people raised in ghettos get taught to speak with slang, act rough and dress like thugs.. And it has nothing to do with white people holding them back...

If someone born in that situation went and bought some respectable looking cloathes, fixed their way of talking and carried themselves in a different mannor.. Provided they had the brains, they could go anywhere with their lives...

And dont act like its just a black problem too.. Theres poor white people who cant get a job cause of those same reasons too... Welcome to the concept of poverty bro...

It aint about skin color anymore.. Thats a BIG misconception...

Okay, so do you think a racist person who's hiring at a job is gunna stop and say "Oh, this black guy isn't ghetto, so I like him!"? Cuz it doesn't happen. When it comes to racist people, yes, black people are judged by the color of their skin. And there are a SHITLOAD of racists and undercover racists that I have seen in my life, don't try to act like it doesn't exist. Now, put the white person who made themselves better next to the black person who made themselves better in front of a racist person, who's gunna get the job?

And by the way, you can't just change the way you are raised, it goes in and the rest of your life is based on it no matter what you do. So don't come give me some shit about how it's our parents fault because I already explained how the shit has carried on through the generations.
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Old 02-12-06, 07:44 PM   #6
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Okay, so do you think a racist person who's hiring at a job is gunna stop and say "Oh, this black guy isn't ghetto, so I like him!"? Cuz it doesn't happen. When it comes to racist people, yes, black people are judged by the color of their skin. And there are a SHITLOAD of racists and undercover racists that I have seen in my life, don't try to act like it doesn't exist. Now, put the white person who made themselves better next to the black person who made themselves better in front of a racist person, who's gunna get the job?

And by the way, you can't just change the way you are raised, it goes in and the rest of your life is based on it no matter what you do. So don't come give me some shit about how it's our parents fault because I already explained how the shit has carried on through the generations.

Now your addressing hypotheticals... "What if" the employer is a racist..

Well thats fine.. "What if" a white man goes to a black employer and isnt hired due to racial prejudice either.. In a world as diverse as the one were living in, you cant act like all white people are evil job bosses that are racist towards all those of a different skin color..

Infact thats pretty damn obsurd... Because you cannot base your entire argument on a hypothetical situation that would probably not be the case a good 95% of the time...

Now do you REALLY have an argument, or are you clutching at straws to keep the issue alive when the pendulum really isnt leaning your way....
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Old 02-12-06, 04:02 AM   #7
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some of the most successful black people in the world have come from some of the most adverse ciscumstances you can imagine...Maya angelous was raped when she was younger and I believe she was also a prostitute at a point...Oprah was poor as hell, and raped when she was younger...she's down in history as the 1st self-made black female BILLionaire...don't ever say you "can't" do this because of one reason or another, if you want it, you'll work for it...yes, some white people get handed kushy jobs and don't have to work their way up a company cuz someone in their family owns some shit but black people that own shit do the SAME thing...nothing is impossible and when you don't succeed it's always easier to blame someone else and you're circumstances aren't always your fault but you gotta fight to get what and where you want in life...when you get lemons, you make lemonade...would people really appreciate shit if they didn't have to work for it? no...they'd let go and wouldn't care because they wouldn't appreciate shit...you think if Oprah grew up rich and never worked to get where she is, that she'd make life better for other people in bad situations and help them, you think she'd wake up and pray thanking GOD everyday for what he's allowed her to accomplish? HELL NO...I've never once heard her say that the way some white people are prevented her from doing or becoming what she wanted...if you don't succeed, it IS your fault


(to your post directly above this)

everyone is judged from the time they are born and beyond..nah scratch that, from BEFORE they're born...you are 1st judged by your race cuz your parents are already here, but as an individual you are first judged on your gender...that's the first category you are put into and judged from there...EVERYONE is judged, not just people from a certain class or race
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Uhh... Why have EVER jehoavas witness ive seen, the ones that come to your door.. every one has been black..
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Uhh... Why have EVER jehoavas witness ive seen, the ones that come to your door.. every one has been black..



Because jehovas have white fever and wanna see how it looks inside a real life white person's house.
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L veracity seems like the type of black girl that's ashamed of her race to the point where she turns into an uncle rukkus, and she feels like its okay for HER to judge black people because she's black. Just because you're black it doesn't mean you can judge all of us like that.
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L veracity seems like the type of black girl that's ashamed of her race to the point where she turns into an uncle rukkus, and she feels like its okay for HER to judge black people because she's black. Just because you're black it doesn't mean you can judge all of us like that.


And so if a black person doesn't say "Yeah, the white man is trying to hold us down" they're considered a traitor to their race? Maybe that's where the fucking problem is, dude.

She didn't judge anybody, you need to reread her post or something.
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And so if a black person doesn't say "Yeah, the white man is trying to hold us down" they're considered a traitor to their race? Maybe that's where the fucking problem is, dude.

She didn't judge anybody, you need to reread her post or something.



That's where I think people mess up at. People never can keep a good balance of what is their fault and what isn't. People are either blaiming EVERYTHING wrong with their lives on the government or they're just being naive to the obvious drawbacks their race has been given. I don't blaim shit on white people, if you really listen to what I'm always sayin, its the black people's fault. And reperations don't come out of your pockets, it comes from the government. If they can spend all this money on wars and shit I think they can help us out. You get what I'm sayin?
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That's where I think people mess up at. People never can keep a good balance of what is their fault and what isn't. People are either blaiming EVERYTHING wrong with their lives on the government or they're just being naive to the obvious drawbacks their race has been given. I don't blaim shit on white people, if you really listen to what I'm always sayin, its the black people's fault. And reperations don't come out of your pockets, it comes from the government. If they can spend all this money on wars and shit I think they can help us out. You get what I'm sayin?


Just in case you obviously missed what I was saying.

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L veracity seems like the type of black girl that's ashamed of her race to the point where she turns into an uncle rukkus, and she feels like its okay for HER to judge black people because she's black. Just because you're black it doesn't mean you can judge all of us like that.

and just because you're black doesnt mean you can judge all white people like many do
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