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Old 10-29-09, 10:58 PM   #1
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also the trying to save others by bringing jesus in their lives is actually against gods will....

he made everyone in his likeness and gave everyone free will to choose him....sure i understand (for the fire analogy) shouting out hey your house is on fire, but you would have no right to run in and save them unless they asked to be saved...sure you can give them the information but GOD gave them the right to choose what to do with that information, and if GOD isnt trying to make them believe anything in a certian way, what gives YOU that right.......




If contending for the faith isnt your call...then DON'T DO IT...

The bible tells us in 2 timothy to REBUKE...encourage...TEACH...in season...and out of season...meaning...when it's popular...and when it's not...

You are Catholic...and that has something to do with your belief system...fair enough...

But, it is not only the RIGHT, but DUTY of every believer in Jesus Christ is to spread God's word to unbelievers...

There are many ways to do that...And, the way I addressed Adam and others here is what God instructed me to do...

You don't have to like it...it's not your call...

I'd rather piss MAN off than God...

I was obedient.


Furthermore, not every situation calls for certain things...

Paul says in 1 corinthians 9 that "I have become ALL THINGS to ALL MEN"...so that..."I may be able to save some"

That means Paul met people at their level of Faith...

If I were witnessing to a 10 year old...I'd talk a ten year old's language...

If I'm witnessing to a 22 year old named ADAM on Rapverse, Imma meet him at his level to spread God's word...

And remember, much of what happened in this thread was planting seeds...perhaps someone will come along and water...but, as 1 corinthians 3 says "GOd provides the increase"...meaning he does the growing.



We act bold and stupid for everything else in life that doesn't matter...Imma act "bold" and "stupid" for God...Crazy faith.


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Old 10-30-09, 12:36 AM   #2
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also the trying to save others by bringing jesus in their lives is actually against gods will....

he made everyone in his likeness and gave everyone free will to choose him....sure i understand (for the fire analogy) shouting out hey your house is on fire, but you would have no right to run in and save them unless they asked to be saved...sure you can give them the information but GOD gave them the right to choose what to do with that information, and if GOD isnt trying to make them believe anything in a certian way, what gives YOU that right.......


What gives us the right? Okay first of all. The Bible says make disciples of Jesus. What does he mean by that? Does he mean dont do anything? OR actually spread the word? Hmmmm. Only Jesus can save them. We never said we can save them. Jesus saves them, but we deliver the word and they choose to believe and accept Jesus into their life or not. What gives us the right to try to save people? Um God. Tell me this. What gives priest's the right to say "God has forgiven you." Why go to priests and ask for forgiveness when the Bible clearly states that only Jesus can forgive them and only confess TO JESUS. Not the priest. What gives catholic priests the right?
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Old 10-30-09, 08:37 AM   #3
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What gives us the right? Okay first of all. The Bible says make disciples of Jesus. What does he mean by that? Does he mean dont do anything? OR actually spread the word? Hmmmm. Only Jesus can save them. We never said we can save them. Jesus saves them, but we deliver the word and they choose to believe and accept Jesus into their life or not. What gives us the right to try to save people? Um God. Tell me this. What gives priest's the right to say "God has forgiven you." Why go to priests and ask for forgiveness when the Bible clearly states that only Jesus can forgive them and only confess TO JESUS. Not the priest. What gives catholic priests the right?




Exactly...not to mention in Matthew 23 where Jesus says "Call no man on Earth FATHER"...and the FIRST thing you say at confessional is "Bless me FATHER, for I have sinned..." hmm


Well...let me be real right now...through all this talk...through all this speak of holiness and righteousness, we've been sinning in the meantime like Dabatos said...

No one is perfect...

But God is able to purge us...and cleanse us from our sin...

Even if we don't have a MAJoR slip up...we're still imperfect beings saved by a perfect Savior.


Jesus.



I think anyone who posts in this thread should read all the comments first...that'll save on the redundancy.










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Old 10-29-09, 10:02 PM   #4
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Old 10-29-09, 10:12 PM   #5
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i would if i were a christian and god told me to
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Old 10-29-09, 11:08 PM   #6
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OH...and for the record people, temptation is NOT a sin. Jesus was tempted.

The analogy most often given is of a bird hovering above a nest...You can't control the bird hovering, but you can stop it from landing..i.e., you can't stop the temptation, but you can control whether or not you ACT on it.

If a person is a fornicator (GAY OR STRAIGHT) then...they may be tempted to "get wit" somethin nice that they see...

However, there's nothing that can make you pull your PENIS out your pants and stick it in...That's YOUR CHOICE.

It's time to grow up people...y'all are grown now...not 13 year old boys with no self control.

So...don't confuse constant TEMPTATION with constant SIN. They're not the same thing...and being tempted often isn't "living in sin". Not the same.

God knows we're going to struggle. There's no sin in that. Get real.


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Penis.


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Old 10-30-09, 10:08 PM   #8
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everyone for there own. Im happy to do my thing and live by my own morals. I am my own god, i am my own saviour, I pave my own path.
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sidenote: You two are not doing so well to 'spread gods word' Because Im just finding you both ignorant and non respective to anyone elses personal views. May be with a bit more respect to how others see things and be open minded to what others have to say then people will listen.
but no one.. and I mean no one.. wants to listen to 2 people who show no respect for the next mans opinion as long as its 'against' there 'god'. Im in no way against what you beleive.. and i 100% respect what you beleive.. but I doubt I will ever see either of you respect my point of view and accept it.
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sidenote: You two are not doing so well to 'spread gods word' Because Im just finding you both ignorant and non respective to anyone elses personal views. May be with a bit more respect to how others see things and be open minded to what others have to say then people will listen.
but no one.. and I mean no one.. wants to listen to 2 people who show no respect for the next mans opinion as long as its 'against' there 'god'. Im in no way against what you beleive.. and i 100% respect what you beleive.. but I doubt I will ever see either of you respect my point of view and accept it.



Then...based on your own argument, YOU are not doing a good job spreading your own word since, as you claim, "neither of us" are respecting it.

If you 100% respect what we say, then, what we've said here has been effective by admission.

Now what?




This entire discussion has hinged upon the fact that we (Christians) believe Jesus is the way to true purpose, peace, and salvation...

So...I'm not quite sure how that wasn't made clear. It's your choice bro...like it's my choice and everyone else's to accept God's plan for our lives or not...

But rest assured, there is a plan.





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Old 10-31-09, 03:21 PM   #11
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Then...based on your own argument, YOU are not doing a good job spreading your own word since, as you claim, "neither of us" are respecting it.

If you 100% respect what we say, then, what we've said here has been effective by admission.

Now what?




This entire discussion has hinged upon the fact that we (Christians) believe Jesus is the way to true purpose, peace, and salvation...

So...I'm not quite sure how that wasn't made clear. It's your choice bro...like it's my choice and everyone else's to accept God's plan for our lives or not...

But rest assured, there is a plan.





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I respect in the sense of 'its your choice' so you should. Im not here to spread my word homie. Just do ya thing and accept people dont beleive in the same thing.
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Old 11-02-09, 01:06 AM   #12
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sidenote: You two are not doing so well to 'spread gods word' Because Im just finding you both ignorant and non respective to anyone elses personal views. May be with a bit more respect to how others see things and be open minded to what others have to say then people will listen.
but no one.. and I mean no one.. wants to listen to 2 people who show no respect for the next mans opinion as long as its 'against' there 'god'. Im in no way against what you beleive.. and i 100% respect what you beleive.. but I doubt I will ever see either of you respect my point of view and accept it.



Okay, showing no respect. So, by being open minded, when you say its okay to have sex before marriage I should say sure thats okay? OR because I believe you shouldn't do that I should say thats wrong. Or when you say Jesus never existed I'll say sure no problem. So I'll just go ahead and agree with everything you say? When you say problems in your life and say this is why I dont believe in God. Than sure i'll understand where you are coming from. But when you say things that are totally against the bible, or when the bible says this isn't true, than why should I agree with it? Same reason if you dont believe in what I say, you never agree with it. You keep saying I don't respect you. You keep saying that I'm weak. People keep saying that I believe in a God that doesn't exist. When I say anything like this right from the beginning I just rebuked and rebuked. If i said anything wrong than correct me. By constantly saying Your stupid in believing in Jesus than tahts being disrespectful. From what I could remember, I have not shown any disrespect at all. No anger, no nothing, just responses.
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Old 10-31-09, 04:45 AM   #13
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explain your point of view again dont feel like backtracking and looking for it
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Old 10-31-09, 06:35 AM   #14
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mine? It would be easier for you to click the mouse than me to type.
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Old 10-31-09, 08:13 AM   #15
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