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Old 12-17-08, 04:42 AM   #1
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2v the master of pseudo intellect responses and philosophical ideology is here with yet another thread on subjective opinions and ways to look at Drug Users.

The government doesn't think twice when they feed you bullshit in the morning because it's the same bullshit that they were fed as children and they also think it's just- how they think the laws and structure of your nation works.

Though it's not. One way to see a human is as a robot using chemicals as fuel to get through their day, and we need germination to feed these chemicals to a larger germ, ourselves and our species.

This is just a perception of reality so don't think I'm being rhetorical just yet, that being said, we are humans that survive and flourish due to chemicals and because of that, ANY outside source of drugs excluding vitamins and essentials, are useless space-consuming and overall less progressive chemicals that are being added to our fine diet of current chemicals, already grown within our bodies as fetus', from a mother who is trusted to not put such things in HER body, as to not damage the fundamental chemical diet of the growing baby within.

In other words, in this philosophical view, there are two types of drugs. Any drug besides that which helps you survive on naturality, is a drug, and those that do help you survive on naturality, is a vitamin.

Stat commercial belief would have you believe my view is completely twisted and estranged from reality, no matter how simply I have just laid it down for you. People fear things that are new, but that's a whole different philosophy.

Let's move into an attempt to refute what I have provided.

But 2v (Nathan), chemicals are released by our body all the time! Such as Dopamine when our brain wants us to know we've done something good, therefore it attempts to train itself to be happy by doing a certain thing. Don't you see? The simple fact that we EAT causes a chemical change within our body, because we ARE chemical robots running on chemical fuel!

Now this view could stand, in an alternate universe.

Food, besides tetrahydrocannabinol laced food (Need I remind you marijuana is not digestible and is thus not edible) is damaging to your body if you eat it raw. Liquor laced foods is damaging to every cell in your body, as is anything extremely potently fermented. Food doesn't get you high or drunk, and finally, the Dopamine was in our body before our brain released it.

It's not something we put in, such as meth, which releases a spew of Dopamine from your brain, causing you to feel very happy very suddenly. In other words, Meth is an auto cure for depressed people, but would a government ever use Meth to cure people? No. Why? Because it's METH. *slap*

We're all lost in a little dream world where we think we can have gigantic billion dollar corporations feeding chemicals to our society like McDonalds with a hope that the future won't bring forth a bunch of fuck-brain deformities. Fat chance, society!

Share your thoughts.
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Old 12-17-08, 09:11 AM   #2
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I'm sorry.. are you proposing medical practitioners dont use meth to treat depression because of a pre-disposed prejudice towards the drug? Have you ever tampered with meth before? Have you ever had a big meth come down? I think majorly depressed people would probably have a far higher suicide percentage or rate if that particular drug was used to treat depression.

And just an FYI-- Anti-depressants are drugs that slowly block off the waste of excess setetonen in the brain so ones brain basically begins to hold more of this chemical, their generally 3 year courses to encourage the storage of seretonen.. Thats how you properly treat depression.. Meth would be like putting on a mega bandaid over a wound then ripping it off and stabbing it a few times to rip it open further.. THATS why its not used to treat such disorders..

2v I'm really not sure where you head is at with this thread man..

your going to have to attempt to use a slightly more directed approach if you really want to discuss drug philosophy. Because your all over the place at the moment, one minute your going off on a tangent about one thing, the next your compleatly moving onto a different topic... I'm sure it all makes a beautiful sense in your own mind, but a discussion is a discussion not a picasso portrayal of paragraphs randomly making a mixture of poorly directed points.

I can see where your comming from with your last part, technically some of the drugs used to treat conditions in people are pretty harsh on the system and can cause side effects and a lot of bullshit within the human.. But what are you going to do about it man?

Talk?

You live in a nation basically enslaved mentally by the conglomerate corperations and consumerism than spans far beyond the realm of simply drugs.

But ultimatly I feel as though you sort of need to get your head straight. I have a question for you.

How much weed do you smoke? ........on a weekly basis
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Old 12-17-08, 01:09 PM   #3
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You're the one dropping a bunch of poorly directed points. Don't accuse me.

I don't smoke weed anymore man, I said that in another thread a long time ago.

and I see what you said about meth does hold water, but in a certain level of dosage, what you said does not hold water.

The only place it holds water is within a society that force feeds its citizens drugs. Otherwise, a meth comedown won't be nearly as harsh as you've portrayed it, as with any drug.
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Old 12-17-08, 03:56 PM   #4
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lol, meth is a stimulant.

when i was depressed it was hard to get out of the fuckin' bed in the morning. everyday sucked.

I really needed a stimulation at the time..

and in short, this thread was about expressing a certain philosophy on life regarding drugs, and I basically said that any chemical already within our body is a vitamin if taken from an outer source via digestion.

And because chemicals play a broader role, I can expand this philosophy by saying that although meth is a stimulant class of 'drug', using my simple methodical philosophy on life would say any outer drug that stimulates the body in a strict positive way (positive/positive), is a 'stimulant'

a drug is a 'chemical' that gives the 'human chemical' a 'chemical reaction', and every drug that affects the human being in a positive/negative or negative/negative way, is a depressant.

So 3 classes, vitamins, depressants, and stimulants.

Drug classes of all types Lollllllllllll.
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Old 12-17-08, 05:51 PM   #5
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lol, meth is a stimulant.

when i was depressed it was hard to get out of the fuckin' bed in the morning. everyday sucked.

I really needed a stimulation at the time..

and in short, this thread was about expressing a certain philosophy on life regarding drugs, and I basically said that any chemical already within our body is a vitamin if taken from an outer source via digestion.

And because chemicals play a broader role, I can expand this philosophy by saying that although meth is a stimulant class of 'drug', using my simple methodical philosophy on life would say any outer drug that stimulates the body in a strict positive way (positive/positive), is a 'stimulant'

a drug is a 'chemical' that gives the 'human chemical' a 'chemical reaction', and every drug that affects the human being in a positive/negative or negative/negative way, is a depressant.

So 3 classes, vitamins, depressants, and stimulants.

Drug classes of all types Lollllllllllll.

Bro, I've got a close friend who was on anti depressants for a few years..

Thats exactly one of the main things he said about them... They give you, so to speak.......more pep...... better ability to feel good and wake up in the morning, more energy.. etc... Their not generally classed as a stimulant, their as I said, drugs that help keep the wasted seretenen that your brain makes because that is the cause for most symptoms when were talking depression...

Treating depression with meth? Lmao... say that to a doctor and watch their response... Dont think you know more than them because your more 'open minded'.. just watch them go........eh? uhh, i dont think so buddy.... .,......(And thats putting it nicly)

Meth is a short term stimulant with fucking shit house side effects on the come down, is very addictive and makes people do really dumb things sometimes bro because of its extreme mind altering effects..

depressants also arnt exactly always negative when it comes to effects, i mean heres you telling me alprazalam is used as an anti-depressant in another thread...and your correct, anxiety is a lead up to depression, but the specific active ingrediant has a lot more uses than that being a heavy depressant.

I'm NOT 100% convinced you really know what your talking about bro...

and you didnt answer my question either.....

how much weed do you smoke during the course of a week.........just out of interest....
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Old 12-17-08, 08:19 PM   #6
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Ok, don't be sure that I know what I'm talking about.

That has no affect on me at any time of day, bro.
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Old 12-17-08, 10:54 PM   #7
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2v how much weed do you smoke per week.......
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How many pills do you do a day?
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usually about 4 to 6, opiate pain killers and benzos... now your turn, how much weed do you smoke bud
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I don't smoke any at all..

Do you think you should sign up to study those medications for memory loss/faulty comprehension?...
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Old 12-17-08, 11:39 PM   #11
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Oh, well that was an answer I wasnt really hoping for...

It would have explained why your mental mush of writing techniques is so all over the place and your brains not functioning to an acceptable level recently.....
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oh so now I'm not acceptable is that it?
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Nah youve just been slipping a bit latly man....

It sort of seemed to me like youd been smoking too much pot and you needed to chill cause a lot of the time your posts have been utter introspective weird badly directed crap...

well talk about it if you like... Is your uncle touching you in your private places? or are you just getting off stuff and your brain isnt coping very well?
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