Propoganda.

Americans hear what the American Government wants them to. Unfortunately, too many swallow it up and actually believe there is something about the States that makes it above all from other nations. Every Nation has its advantages/disadvantages.
To be honest, sometimes the American Patriotism makes me sick. You are all so proud of having a military like you do, ' We Powerful, Do what we say or we whoop your ass ' Blah Blah Blah... and yet you have children starving living on the streets searching through trash cans to survive. You have such intolerance of others that it amazes me. (Priorities?!?!)
As far as Im concerned, leading through fear is defeat in itself. You can't command respect, you must earn it. And America aint doing so well on this in recent times.
The fact that your country chucked a nation wide hissy fit when France wouldnt agree to attack Iraq amazes me. Likened to a child in a grocery store chucking a tantrum cause they cant have a lollipop. When in all reality, the UN wasn't set up to do as the USA bids, it was set up so that all Nations would have a say in the decision making pertaining to Global Events. Sad to say, that the American Government feels they are higher than even this on the World Arena. Ignorant. Pompous. Asses.
As for freedom, I cant believe that you actually think you are free lol That cracks me up. Im not saying Im free either, but at least Im not bound by the misconception that I am lol And Im certainly not basing entire arguments upon it.
Money and wealth mean shit all, so take your prowess and offer an argument based on humanity, or the quality of life, the tolerance of people.. and then see how well America stacks up. You will be dissapointed.
There is nothing, absolutely nothing, that America provides that certain others Nations don't. If you think there is, by all means tell me. But I want to hear a good argument, no bullshit half witted wanker statements like -
'We are the most powerful Nation in the World'
For fucks sake. I hate this sentence, Im so damn sick of reading and hearing it... you need to address the racism issues in your own country before you start breeding it World Wide.
Wake up! We are not just Americans, or Australians, Canadians, Chinese etc etc.. We are fellow citizens of this World. Start acting like it.

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basically 9/11 was less about the hatred for americans and more about the (almost) never ending conflict between christians and muslims....unfortunately for us america is and will always be potrayed as a christian nation like it or not..........face it when the pilgrims landed here their religous beliefs were forever imprinted on this country...............those who write off the terrorists as simply hata's of america obviously don't know what a jihad is.......a holy war.........america is a great country however we have some very bad habits.........the biggest one being...in my opinion is attempting to walk in and tell soverign (misspelled i know) nations what to do and how to run their country...........personally i feel the war in Iraq took advantage of the mood of the country and george bush used our feelings of patriotism and fear to wage war for personal/political gain.........i mean with the exception of saddams sons what did we accomplish? what weapons of mass destruction did we find.........are the iraqi people free........hell we've lost more soldiers since the president declared the war a success than we did in the actual war..................basically what i'm saying is this every country has problems and the people respond to them in different ways.............america has the most freedom and we do alot of good things.............but we are not perfect by a long shot..........we have poor education lots of hungry and homeless.....but face it this is the land of OPPORTUNITY so there is the chance to make it and do well for yourselves......and if we were so horrible then why does everyone want to come here....it ain't for the big macs i'll tell you.....................1

sometimes at school or anywhere usually someone saids someone wacky about the united states.....Like some wacky lawsuit or something.....where if you dont have health insureance youre a dead man...and how you dont get money being unemployed america really is becomming a joke.......Its also hella commercialised/////////// i'd much rather stay where i am

also the person that said that every country owes america money is wo=rong it's the other way roung. The American government owes the un millions of dollars

America spend's like 100 times the amonut of money more than the other second biggest budget for weapons so for a country with so much money to spare you would think there would be no bums on the street

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Your a nice guy profiit...but..
Even what you say here has that pompous American attitude, you guys just dont see it do you... You really don't.

America has no more freedom than Australia does. Oh, except in the case of gun laws. Which, personally, isnt a form of freedom I'd take pride in. As for the land of opportunity, what makes Americans think Australia isnt? Access to our education system is far better than yours, as well as our government funded medical programs... so really, in essence, with better public health care and the ability for every Australian, rich or poor, to go to University (without the need for scholarship)... I think we actually provide better opportunities to our young people than the States does.
Lastly, you mention everyone wanting to go there.. Check international migration statistics... It might surprise you that plenty of Americans migrate from your country every year, not to mention the fact that America doesn't even have the highest national immigration intake in the World.

I just want to note also, that Im using Australia for reference simply because Ive lived here the last 13 years, not because I think its any better than any other country. In fact, sadly..I lack patriotism.
I see very little these days to be proud of, anywhere.

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this entire statement makes you a hypocrit. First off you're bad mouthing America and then you say "everyone" is citizens of the world??? Great display of humanity.

I understand there are those who don't like our government and things we done in the past, and in most instances I agree. My only problem with your statement, is that you're talking about stuff you don't seem to know much about. The UN would not exit if it weren't for America, and some countries wouldn't even be represented. Rascism spans the world not just America. And if I remember correctly Australia houses the most hate groups, you guys. Yes there are arrogant people claiming America is great and the best or what have you, but they do not represent the entire country. Any proud person would say their country is the best, at least for them. I'm pretty sure your country has at least one or two less fortunate? OR is Austrailia that perfect?

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^thank you i try to be a nice guy!..........i wasn't trying to be pompous i am a little patriotic but my point is that America is a land of choices and our freedoms are better than in some countries......true there are other countries with the same types of freedoms but there are many that lack democracy (though ours is iffy at times) judicial systems and law and order in any sense.....what i am trying to get at is this........we have our faults all nations do......we however also have our good points.....don't knock our country based on what you hear.......we are really not that bad................1

Yeah Profiit, it is A land of opportunity, among many. But not THE land of opportunity.. you dont hold the monopoly on that
And I know you werent trying to be pompous, hence my comment your a nice guy, I was just trying to illustrate to you, how sometimes, Americans are oblivious as to how they are percieved my non-Americans.. And you know I agree, there is no perfect Nation. Which is why I don't understand why so many people spend so much time claiming theirs is.

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Now Jes.. First off, I must assume you didnt bother to read my second post in this threa, I stated I don't believe Australia to be any better than any other Country...I don't see anywhere that I say Australia is perfect.. and there is only one thing I hate more than bullshit arguments, its people putting words in my mouth.
As for your comments on the UN, well.. you are almost correct on one account..

'The name "United Nations", coined by United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt, was first used in the "Declaration by United Nations" of 1 January 1942.

However, this doesnt, at least in my book, mean that the American Government controls nor dictates the decisions made by the UN Nations. It was created so that Countries could work together toward-for one, global peace.. among many other issues. The decision making process is very clear within the UN. Within each of the seperate councils set up within the UN there are Nation members who hold a vote. With the recent events in Iraq it was the Security Council that held the responsibility.

'The UN Charter gives the Security Council primary responsibility for maintaining international peace and security. The Council may convene at any time, whenever peace is threatened. Under the Charter, all Member States are obligated to carry out the Council's decisions.
There are 15 Council members. Five of these — China, France, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States — are permanent members. The other 10 are elected by the General Assembly for two-year terms. Member States are discussing making changes in Council membership and working to reflect today's political and economic realities.
Decisions of the Council require nine yes votes. Except in votes on procedural questions, a decision cannot be taken if there is a no vote, or veto, by a permanent member.'

This being said, can you imagine Roosevelts reaction to President Bush and his total lack of respect towards the UN's decision on this subject? It makes it all the worse in my books, that the UN, an International Co-ordination founded by an American President is so totally dis-regarded by President Bush. And don't go off saying that this was the actions of one man (Bush) because I saw plenty of discussions online on forums just like these where Americans were hating on the French because they wouldnt yeild on the decision.
And yes, the minority don't speak for the majority, as is life... However, I was addressing people on this forum, whose attitudes were pompous and arrogant regarding America and its supposed might.

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Well that was a fucking long winded way of saying "fuck off you dipshit". Well put though, and I want you to know that I'm feeling that shit man.

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It's about time we get some discussion out of this topic. Most keep referencing our involvemnt in Iraq, just read some pages back, where I listed our main agenda in Iraq. I respect all of the world countires, but am sure respect is not what is keeping hostile nations from invading those borders. The only thing opposing that scenerio is the balance of world power as it stands today. The minute there is a shift in that balance, most of you will understand the volitility of this world. I wish I had the misconceptions of most, but I do not have that luxory, sometimes I guess it's better not to be informed...At least you sleep better at night, and have no ulcers to worry about...

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Apparently you don't read either, because I never said "you said" Austrailia was perfect. I was making a point ABOUT Austrailia, there is a difference but I guess you didn't catch that. It was a rhetorical question. Taking my statement as an attack, is your fault. I'm glad you're reading up on the UN, at least you'll get your facts straight. And yes, President Bush went against the UN, but how many times in UN history has people gone against its wishes? How many times is the Geneva Convention been broken. America has been very independent of other countries thought and such when it comes to home, and that I agree. So disreagarding the UN is not new, if it was America would be ousted from its postion.

I really see no point in your lastest post. you skimmed through information to find something to support your idea, which seems to me a weak argument. Don't get me wrong, I'm not for war at all, I in fact am a non-violent protester. So I'm not arguing about why we went to war, because I think it was incorrect. I'm asking you about your orginal post. You had lots of good opinions, but I feel were backed up unjustly. I guess your first post was made in anger about somethings said in this thread, but generalizing everyone and pointing out flaws which you're own country has, seems pretty arrogant.

I guess it's time for another cliche, "don't speaks in others eye until you realize the log in your own."

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