Fletch just subliminally admitted his defeat.... according to his own logic.

Besides, the entire argument was stupid as shit and took a turn for the worst when people who do not know how to define beliefs by using a simple title took the stage to debate.

I could have easily majorly butted in but I just sat back and watched.

Then again there's a lot of things I could say on this site that I don't say...

well I'ma go check my RIP thread.

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couldnt have worded it it better myself.

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"the loudest one in the room is the weakest"- frank lucas..

and he still doestnt get it, ALL NON BELIEVERS WILL GO TO HELL..U CAN END UP THERE.
CUZ THATS WHAT HAPPENS TO NON BELIEVERS..how do u not understand simple logic.

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"the loudest one in the room is the weakest"- frank lucas..

And you just failed miserably at trying to use my own logic against me. I didn't admit defeat, simply because you can't admit defeat to a person who has just admitted defeat to you.

That's like a dude in a game of chess knocking over his King to grant victory to the other guy, who in return knocks his down and tries to admit his own defeat. It's fucking redundant.

Nice try though.

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That's what you believe, not me.

I don't believe in life after death, no Heaven, no Hell.

Open your eyes son. There is no Hell. There is no Heaven. When we die, we die and are cremated or put in the ground. There we remain. There is no existence after death. This is my belief. So, you will not go to Heaven.. I don't give a fuck what you believe.. I am an atheist, so therefore according to what I believe in... you will rot in the ground or become ash.

Congratulations.

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"my point is that u proved my point that is all"

then

"SO YOUR POINT IS THAT YOU'RE A MORON? HERES SOME PSYCHOLOGY, CHANGING THE SUBJECT OR SAYING "I DIDNT READ IT" OR SOMETHING ELSE IN ORDER TO BRING THE TOPIC TO AN END IS JUST ADMITTING DEFEAT. YOURE AN IDIOT. DONT EVEN WASTE YOUR TIME, YOU ADMITTED DEFEAT. I HAVE NO FURTHER INTEREST IN THIS DISCUSSION. HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY"

2v: "that's reverse logical"

same guy who 2v said something about:
"YOU FAILED MISERABLY. I DIDN't ADMIT DEFEAT. 'CUZ SHE DID. LOOOL"

when in reality 100% of psychology is hypothesis.

Maybe you just don't know what psychology is :0

have a wonderful day

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I never said what I believe in, but I did say that doubting anything was ignorant. I think you misunderstood the point I was trying to get across.

I believe in the possibility of a higher power or who knows, maybe an equal power, but there was definitely something that starting everything and what started that? Who knows..?

I believe that religions are fucking retarded, one could be right, I won't count that possibility out, but I think they are used more so to control people or as a crutch for the lonely and unintelligent.

As John Lennon said..

You say you found Jesus Christ
He's the only one
You say you've found Buddha
Sittin' in the sun
You say you found Mohammed
Facin' to the East
You say you found Krishna
Dancin' in the streets

Well there's somethin' missing in this God Almighty stew
And it's your mother (your mother, don't forget your mother, lad)
You got to serve yourself
Ain't nobody gonna do it for you
You got to serve yourself
Ain't nobody gonna do it for you
Well you may believe in devils and you may believe in lords
But if you don't go out and serve yourself, lad, ain't no room service here

It's still the same old story
A bloody Holy War
A fight for love and glory
Ain't gonna study war no more
A fight for God and country
We're gonna set you free
We'll put you back in the Stone Age
If you won't be like me - get it?

You got to serve yourself
Ain't nobody gonna do for you
You got to serve yourself
Ain't nobody gonna do for you
Well you may believe in devils and you may believe in lords

'But Christ, you're gonna have to serve yourself and that's all there is to it.
So get right back here it's in the bloody fridge. God, when I was a kid.
Didn't have stuff like this, TV-fuckin' dinners and all that crap.
You fuckin' kids are all the fuckin' same! Want a fuckin' car now...
Lucky to have a pair of shoes!'

You tell me you found Jesus Christ
Well that's great and he's the only one
You say you just found Buddha
Sittin' on his ass in the sun
You say you found Mohammed
Kneeling on a bloody carpet facin' the East
You say you found Krishna
With a bald head dancin' in the street ('Well, Christ, now you're
being heard')

You got to serve yourself
Ain't nobody gonna do for you
You got to serve yourself
Ain't nobody gonna do for you ('that's right, lad, you better get that straight
into your fuckin' head')
You got to serve yourself ('you know that, who else is gonna do it for you, it
ain't me I tell you that')
Well, you may believe in Jesus, and you may believe in Marx
And you may believe in Marks and Spencer's and you may believe in bloody
Woolworths
But there's something missing in this whole bloody stew
And it's your mother, your poor bloody mother ('she worked for you in the
back bedroom, full of piss and shit and fuckin' midwives. God, you can't
forget that awful moment, you know. You should have been in the bloody
war, lad, and you would know all about it. Well, I'll tell you something.')

It's still the same old story
A Holy bloody War, you know, with the Pope and all that stuff
A fight for love and glory
Ain't gonna study no more war
A fight for God and country, and the Queen and all that
We're gonna set you free
Bomb you back into the fuckin' Stone Age
If you won't be like me, you know, get down on your knees and pray

Well there's somethin' missing in this God Almighty stew
And it's your goddamn mother you dirty little git, now
get in there and wash yer ears!

the basic meaning of religon is that there is right and wrong...everythign else is just peoples attempt to twist how and what is right and wrong.

s'long as you belivie in your heart you doing right, then there is no wrong...

simple as that

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So if Micheal Jackson believed in his heart that he should be "molesting" children, that's not wrong?

let me rephrase what cd said

as long as you believe that everything is right, then there iz no wrong.

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you know what cracks me up...people were laughing at MJ jokes while he was alive but now they magically respect him a great deal more now he's dead...people are so full of shit, i don't know any of you lot but i've noticed it around a lot of people i know