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Old 11-12-08, 12:02 AM   #31
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^ i'm just saying, it seems that you're buying into the popular interpretation of what Islam is... which is far from the truth.

which is the defence mechanism everyone plays on..


but have you seen the moral laws of the countries run by islamic rule?

dude......

if your down with the type of opressive limited freedom their people endure.. then by all means, stick up for them...


i say get a grip on whats actually going on out there bro...
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Old 11-12-08, 12:59 AM   #32
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Yeah f'real. The 'Salem Witch Trials' was a terrrrribbbllleeeee Christian fault.

but compare that to Sharia Law and I'd vouch that the Christians are much more humane.

An eye for an eye is Person to Person in Albania.
A reasonable punishment for a crime is Authority to Person in America.
An eye for an eye and pain for for self rights and pleasures is Authority to Person in Land Of The Sunnahs.

Women get killed for not wearing masks over there.

Fuck slaves and women being second class citizens in America, ever,

if you're not an islamic person and you live in their area, you'll be a fucking second class citizen. Why? you tell me..

and I already posted my angry threads about the bullshit that is said in the Qu(Ko)ran. It is NOT a peaceful book, and before you idiots bring up the bible, let me remind you that the Old Testament does NOT apply to modern day. The OLD testament has all the gruesome crazy fucked up laws, and they all belong in OLD times.

Check out the NEW testament ya fuckwads, before you argue with me.

fuck islam repetition, repetition, etcetera.
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Old 11-12-08, 01:16 AM   #33
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The old testement rocks man..


I wrote most of it.......
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Old 11-12-08, 01:20 AM   #34
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countries run by fascist Islamic governments are not examples of the principles of Islam.
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Old 11-12-08, 01:27 AM   #35
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how so buddy? really...

i was talking to someone in one of said countries just yesterday and i asked him why women cant show their hair........he said "because of religious law"

so thats comming straight from the horses mouth.. i could of asked him a lot more.. but hey.. religions a shit topic right...


but blay... your rebuttal?
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Old 11-12-08, 01:30 AM   #36
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Are you saying the bible doesn't promote any restrictions for women?
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how so buddy? really...

i was talking to someone in one of said countries just yesterday and i asked him why women cant show their hair........he said "because of religious law"

so thats comming straight from the horses mouth.. i could of asked him a lot more.. but hey.. religions a shit topic right...


but blay... your rebuttal?

Indeph already said it for me... what I am saying is that all of the same "rules" are there in the Bible. the fact that certain countries are governed by extremist interpretations of the word doesn't change the word.
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Old 11-12-08, 01:47 AM   #38
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if you all would stfu and sell some drugs you might be doing something with your lives
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Old 11-12-08, 02:38 AM   #39
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for the record the "crusades" europe did back in the day, were catholics not christians the pope got sick of all the european countrys fighting each other so he joined them and went to isreal.
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Old 11-12-08, 03:13 AM   #40
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Ok so lets break it down:

War in Iraq started why? "Weapons of Mass Destruction"...although I don't agree with that "war", is it because christians hate muslims? No...actually it JUST MIGHT BE that they assumed they had "weapons of mass destruction".

Ok next war

The war in Afghanistan. That one must have started because Chrsitians hate the Taliban. Oh no wait. I have a feeling it would fall under the same category as the war in Iraq.

Okay I think I got something with this Sudan war. No..when I think about it, for some reason I don't get the message that war has started because Christians hate Muslims.


So.....what countries are CHRISTIANS attacking?

so the fact that they have satellite survalance,spies and a army that sacked the country means nothing?how about the fact that they've found no weopons of mass destruction in any of the countrys?how about the fact that they attacked 3 muslim countrys in a row?how about the fact that they broke united nation laws to do it?naw the american christian army aint attacking muslims.im blind and deaf and cant see nothing.fucking idiot
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Old 11-12-08, 12:38 PM   #41
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so the fact that they have satellite survalance,spies and a army that sacked the country means nothing?how about the fact that they've found no weopons of mass destruction in any of the countrys?how about the fact that they attacked 3 muslim countrys in a row?how about the fact that they broke united nation laws to do it?naw the american christian army aint attacking muslims.im blind and deaf and cant see nothing.fucking idiot



How about the fact that it REALLY isn't Chrsitians attacking Muslims? How about the fact that its about America trying to be world police? How about that? Or how about the fact that you dug yourself a really deep hole so now you'll say anything to try to get out when in reality you just look even more ignorant? How about THAT?


And for you to say that it's Christians because it's America is even more ignorant. Hmm...that's why we have this freedom to belong to whatever religion we want, right? Because America says everyone in America has to be christian. Oh yeah..thanks for bringing that to light. Oh wait...isn't that why those sailors from Europe even came upon America in the first place? Oh right..they wanted freedom from the religion that was forced upon them.

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Are you saying the bible doesn't promote any restrictions for women?



The Bible does NOT promote restrictions for women. During the times of the New Testament where they gave laws such as women submitting to men and keeping their hair long and not speaking out in the church, those were part of that culture at that time.

Study the context in which these verses were written. Don't just read something and run with it. That's like reading the book of Job and then running off and saying God is cruel and mean and unjust.


All of the laws in the Bible hang on 2 commands. Love God and Love Others.

If women were still restricted, we wouldn't have Palin running for political office and we wouldn't have women preaching in churches. As a matter of fact, if women were still restricted, then we'd look a lot like the Muslim countries. But....we don't.
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Indeph already said it for me... what I am saying is that all of the same "rules" are there in the Bible. the fact that certain countries are governed by extremist interpretations of the word doesn't change the word.



Again, study the context in which the Bible was written.

Hermeneutics and exegesis. Studying the times, cultures and writers in order to understand what the Bible is saying.

A lot of the Bible can't just be taken for what it says. You have to understand who's writing that portion, who they're writing to, where they were and what the culture was like.
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Again, study the context in which the Bible was written.

Hermeneutics and exegesis. Studying the times, cultures and writers in order to understand what the Bible is saying.

A lot of the Bible can't just be taken for what it says. You have to understand who's writing that portion, who they're writing to, where they were and what the culture was like.

no shit. lol, that's my whole point... i am a FIRM believer that the Bible promotes living a loving life like Christ. BUT, it is often misinterpreted and used in ways not intended... just like the Quran.

my point wasn't to criticize the Bible, but to draw similarities to the Quran.
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for the record the "crusades" europe did back in the day, were catholics not christians the pope got sick of all the european countrys fighting each other so he joined them and went to isreal.

Catholics, not Christians??? lol, wtf?

study the history of your denomination man...
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