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Old 02-12-04, 10:08 PM   #1
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Arrow What is a Vet? What is a Newbie? The Truth of RB

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you got cats upset cause their pieces don't get checked
like the fat kid on the court! They collapsin' on the floor
tears seepin in their necks and in back of their throats
Their battles are laggin' and slow cause no cats will vote!
Or no cats that they wanted, cause "vets" are actin' funny
On some, "My album drops when my company has the money!"
Knowin' damn well the computer screen is as far as they'll go!
So they act big on the net, keep their feelings lodged below

The first way you can tell a real veteran of letterin'
is that he knows he's better than cats without them registerin'
on the board to say, "You're ill son," or that they feel 'em
"You're iller than that crap that's wacked by penicillin!"
Self-concscious measures, they always embrace their records
and whine and b*tch to get their battles "suade" like leather !

The next way to spot vets is they don't count the time or days
that they've been here, like, "Bitch, I was here in '98!"
It's worse when the cat's rappin sucks and he's actin' tough
B!tch has been here for TEN YEARS and still wack as f*ck!!

Then there are the cats with no lives, allergic to sunlight
call themselves vets cause they post "Hi" nine billion times!!
When few lost thier post, these were the main ones b*tching
Causin' Pen's twitchy trigger finger to start itching!

A vet doesn't care if he loses, this is for amusement
A vet is half-student and does this for the improvement
A vet doesn't ALWAYS lose it if his posts get secluded
He won't make an alias or pop in threads to feel included
A vet is half-teacher, doctors and word professors
teaching lessons by sending wack cats out on a stretcher
or he just does this for fun, between his girl and his job
couldn't give a damn whether or not you think that he's hard!
A vet can act rude or nice, rap sweet or slap dudes
Vets are the nice guys or the sh*t-talkers with attitudes
the one common thread is that they know in their heads
they've been through the flames and it shows in their threads

do you whine alot...or do you spit with assurance
do you rhyme alot .... mostly for reassurance

these are questions you need to ask yourselves to check
to see if you're a newbie, pathetically claimin' vet(I know a few!)


a newbie.... that's a different matter altogether
a newbie stupidly thinks that vets are acting together
voting against them..."You guys are always d*ck riding"
Never considering that they may just SUCK at writing
Droppin' nonsense posts and starin' in light-headed shock
when they REFRESH the page and find fifty threads on top!
Thinkin' they're the center of attention because they're spoiled
like broken freezers, recognition only comes through your toils
sweat and fire, vets get tired of peepin' everything
wanna get noticed, spit something that makes the letters sing
Otherwise, don't think your the sh*t cause you do this in real life
If you're that ill, why did you trade music for still life!?
Stay on that side of the screen, no one gives a damn
if your man knows a man who can't get you a deal...

...maybe...

These babies whining they ain't gettin' the time of day,
from us, while a million other peeps sign on in our place
Do you ask a vet for a favor? Why not ask a newbie next
get together and learn how to avoid misusing texts
that's what we did...I never once asked for help
when I was a starting out,I got everything for myself!!

WHY DON'T YOU PEEP ME!!! Shut up, it was so much harder for me!!
I started beef and ripped bodyparts off peeps with my armory!
I fought my way to the top, why should you ride the escalator!
Lazy ass mega-faker, and you ask why vets are haters?!

These are signs you need to look for when you get pissed
cause maybe all this whining is what's getting you dissed
But don't get mad if you come after me and get ripped badly
It ain't my fault you don't know that I'm a Legend inthe making!

and if you still don't get what separates newbies and vets
you may never know,it comes down to one word: respect...


{I know this is something different from what you are use to seeing from me..Just letting you know...I'm this fu*king good!)


..I'm still a newbie...I'm just better than 99% of ya'll...I'm sure you'll disagree..go back and read this again and again and again....some people ask me "why do you try so hard to be in Legends" I don't...I try hard to write a good piece,which people will enjoy...(My OM's should be in there though )

Do not PM me to vote on your Battles! I will vote against you!

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Old 02-12-04, 10:17 PM   #2
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I'd say this was a really good piece...the delivery was complex with great points one of the best i've read from you. I enjoyed the flow some very creativ lines...the letter sing...that was really good. I enjoyed thisread not only for the value but the truth in your words...very well done...keep it up man
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Old 02-12-04, 10:21 PM   #3
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You ripped this as usual - and I'm sure you know that - so there's nothing else for me to really say. You got talent out the gazoo - much respect.
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Old 02-12-04, 10:22 PM   #4
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^Thanks you two!!
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Old 02-12-04, 10:24 PM   #5
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You right all the way dawg........*plays Jay-Z* "What more can I saaaaaay?!, What more can I Dooooooo!?".......the truth has been spoken RB pay attention....peace

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Old 02-12-04, 10:26 PM   #6
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You right all the way dawg........*plays Jay-Z) "What more can I saaaaaay?!, What more can I Dooooooo!?".......the truth has been spoken RB pay attention....peace

^Thanks....but too many of this fucks are too busy holding each others nuts!!
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Old 02-12-04, 10:27 PM   #7
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It was nice to see you prove your adaptability too. You might have done it before I came but this is the first non-story piece I've seen from you. Hit my "Broken Metamorphosis" if you can.
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Old 02-12-04, 10:46 PM   #8
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this was good... lacked a bit on rhyme style. Ur definately a legend...in the making. U know what to say... a little bit of work on more original ways to say it n u'll be there.
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Old 02-12-04, 11:57 PM   #9
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Hum, i really liked this. I think if it would've been me i woud've done something a bit different than the rhyme scheme but it was a solid read, a lot of good concepts. The flow was good. My only real complaint was that it seemed a bit too stream of conscious, you kind of delved off sometimes instead of keeping the structure of concepts tight. That's more of a choice of style really but if there was some structure scheme or motifs that unified and appeared in the peace throughout maybe it'd improve a bit. I'm just a stickler for organization though, I've written far too many essays. I'm becoming a fan of yours (though clearly less vocal than those who frequent Legends pushing your pieces...lol) and i liked seeing you branch out from your usual surreal style, attempting pieces rooted in realism will definitely help your writing a lot. It's good to try new things, your writing will becoming stronger and more compact in the end because of it. I liked the part about vets being through flames in their threads and the part about newbs should try to make their words sing off the screen, that also registered well with me. I think it stands overall and you come across as honest and genuine, this is a dope piece man. Keep writing, i'll keep reading.

And the only reason I really responded is in hopes of appeasing you to christen me with vet status. Haha. : )

Nice work man.
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Old 02-12-04, 11:57 PM   #10
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A vet doesn't care if he loses, this is for amusement
Total RB record 6-8
A vet is half-student and does this for the improvement
Nope, i reached my peak
A vet doesn't ALWAYS lose it if his posts get secluded
I just wanted a custom title
He won't make an alias or pop in threads to feel included
Umm...
A vet is half-teacher, doctors and word professors
Iv helped out a person here and there
teaching lessons by sending wack cats out on a stretcher
I dont battle
or he just does this for fun, between his girl and his job
Girls...Ha!
couldn't give a damn whether or not you think that he's hard!
I like B2K...what!
A vet can act rude or nice, rap sweet or slap dudes
I Love Dimez, Fuck each and everyone one of you - Sig on Am At Cha
Vets are the nice guys or the sh*t-talkers with attitudes
Neither
the one common thread is that they know in their heads
they've been through the flames and it shows in their threads[/b]
Umm yea i guess...
Im a vet!!
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Old 02-13-04, 12:22 AM   #11
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Nice drop related easy cuz sum people are lazy as fuck and can't do shit for themselves
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Old 02-13-04, 07:35 AM   #12
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A vet can act rude or nice, rap sweet or slap dudes
Vets are the nice guys or the sh*t-talkers with attitudes


That's me right there. Not saying I'm a vet. I'm just saying...that's me right there.

Is it just me...or does it feel like this whole piece should be a wakeup call for Camarac?
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Old 02-13-04, 08:02 AM   #13
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this is sum gud stuff......U makin vets like cam seem shit
at open mics....
any way...Pen...Ur stuff was gud...flow immaculate
vocAB N wordplay perfect...9/10
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Old 02-13-04, 10:00 AM   #14
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damn penskills...nice ass drop homie, vocab n evrything was nice...really said sumthin to me cuz i really dont know where i stand...am i a newbie or flyweight...i really dont know..but its wuteva...the drop was dope homie n i think anotha legend piece in my opinion...speak the truth n let evry1 else see....and if you still don't get what separates newbies and vets
you may never know,it comes down to one word: respect...
^^dope line

keep spittin to de fullest

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Old 02-13-04, 06:17 PM   #15
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YOOOOOOO! penskillz u really got skillz dawg u speakin' the truth, obviously u rhymed about the newbies and vets strictly, what more can i say.....real reconize real.....and this piece mos def defines them......HOTNESS!! i know the difference, but with you? u tell it LIKE IT IS! And thats What im talkin' ABOUT!!!! Peace and LOve ~GONE~
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