You said we're insecure for a particular reason and then said you would refuse to listen to any of our reasoning. Once more, stop acting like some conceited little shit who thinks just because we dislike a particular thing we are jealous of it. Hiding behind your little Zen bullshit is annoying. Especially when you say things like 'you should hide how you feel instead of saying it' and you think you have a right to tell us when we say something we have another motive behind it. When I see a shitty movie I don't go 'i'm going to trash this movie because I wish I had made it'. I trash it because I don't like it.

Now sit back and smile in that annoying, unconscious ass way of yours when you think you've figured out some deep meaning of life and stoicism we haven't figured out yet, only to make yourself out to be a fool.

I didn't even say anything at first, because I didn't want a bunch of people calling me a hater just cuz I don't like a track. If we were supposed to point out all the good things then yes, the video was done pretty well, yes, it has a chance of being a hit, and yes that bitch could get the long strokes.

But after a bunch of people came in here dickriding him over a sellout ass song, I had to kinda state my opinion. I am an insecure person in general, but I am pretty damn secure about shit like this. Half of RV is doing more with their shit than me, but that'll never be a reason I hate on them. That's like saying Kingdom Come got bad reviews because the critics were jealous of Jay-Z for being an even more successful business man now, IMO.*shrugs*

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not reallt feelin it, sounds like yall have a weak mic quality for firsts or yall just have no emotion. either your mic quality is compressed or yall got no emotion. I'm used to hearin better from yup Phenom i dont know what happened in the past year. the chicks are not bad, asian/native type looks. its alright just not that good of a video. the production is good though just the song aint that good in my opinion sorry duke,

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This is different to a shitty movie, the context is not the same. You didn't just see the video on TV and go "that was shit." We are on a rap forum, and a member of the rap forum we are on has done something that deserves merit. He was just giving us the links so we could take a look. He didn't come on here like "LOL @ you wack nobodies, look, I got a video, I am awesome." He was cool about it.

So when I came in here and saw so many people giving him shit about it, I was just like whoa, what is wrong here. If you don't like the video or the song, cool, I am not trying to tell you you should like it. Club music isn't my thing either... You don't have to love the song, just give him a bit of credit for what he's achieved.

If you have come into this thread solely to mention that you hate mainstream style club music, therefore the song is shit in your eyes, therefore the video is also shit in your eyes, or anything like that, then you are either insecure or you're a jerk. Why would you say that? Of course, this is a public forum and you are entitled to your opinion... But really why? If you are saying negative shit, there can only be one thing you are trying to do and that is make him feel bad. And you wouldn't try to make him feel bad if you felt bad by doing it, so you feel good when making other people feel bad. Whether you do it consciously or not, I don't know, but you're doing it, even if you don't mean to. And yes, I realize I am doing the very same thing to you in a different context, and I am trying to make you feel bad about something you've done.

Look at what sir voltaire said... He expressed his honest opinion without being a complete cocksucker about it. Here are some others that did the same thing:







That isn't DR... That's appreciation while retaining your own opinion. In my post I was basically only referring to hades, soc and tzar... I think, there might be more though. How do you expect me to think you DON'T have ulterior motives in what you said when you guys were just saying stuff like "You the fat one?", "WTF wiggle dem toes?" and "You didn't even have nice flow." Tzar was just expressing his opinion badly, and calling phenom a sell out and shit. There are different reasons why he shouldn't do that.

Soc: To me it seemed like they were just giving him props for his moves and shit. Some of them might have liked the song, that's just because it probably was their taste in music.

And about the song being a sellout... The world runs on selling out. If you are getting mad at people for selling out, you should remember to get mad at basically everyone. Businessmen would do anything to get the top of the employment ladder, that is a form of "selling out." Food places entice you to buy their shit with colors and climates and pictures, instead of it just being about the taste of the food.

If a cook is a good cook, is he selling out by charging money for his food? If there is a stronger demand for a particular kind of dish, is he selling out if he favors and promotes that dish instead of other dishes that he or other customers like better? People are just trying to make a living in this crazy world. Don't forget to get mad at your priest next time you go to church. What nerve. Selling out and being PAID to teach people about Christianity.. If he was a real Christian he would do it for free. If phenom was a REAL rapper he would stay true to his underground roots and not make music that appeals to a wide audience. If you are going to blame anyone, blame the majority of people that likes something different to what you like, don't blame the man shaping his products into something that will make money.

I'm sure you have/want a job, so you can make money, so you can get things you want. Why sell out? Why feed the commercial and industrial machine? If you were really true to existence you would run away and live in a hermitage by yourself. THEN you wouldn't be a sell out. I'm just kidding, not really calling you a sellout... But do you see what I mean? Selling out IS bad, but you can't blame people for it. They were raised in that way, it's just how society works.

When you were growing up, did your mama say to you "Now son, if you ever discover something that you can do that a lot of people will pay for, a thing that will make you successful and wealthy, DON'T do it."?

blah blah money isnt everything etc success isnt measured by wealth. You know all that, but there's not much that can be done.. It's just how the world works.

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Why can't you all just shut up? Say what you have to say about the video and that's it.


Anyway, this shit is cool, could've used a bit more variation in the scenes but it's real nice for a first one, no doubt about it. The song is aight, the hook is catchy, mixing ain't that smoothe though. I'm sure you coulda got more girls to feature as well. I like the bit where the girl is dancing and there's like fluorescent paint or w/e on her, woulda been dope with some more chicks.

But props for sure, keep doin what you do

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that's a really well-filmed video for an amateur, like Apexx said, probly the best first video i've seen, but ya'll have like no energy on the mic =/

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PS - we bout to film our first video, and its being done by an NYU graduate school film student, gonna have like a Sin City feel to it
shits gonna be dope...

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Sir, why do you talk so much? That's insecure.

Now wait while I read this.

Back. Good argument.

that vids pretty cool

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I'd like to say that I wouldn't sell out for hip-hop but I can't say it's a definite truth. Difference being hip-hop isn't some hobby or way of making a living IMO, it's art, and to sell out and fuck up a genre of art that continually gets shitted on when you're supposed to love it, is fucking whack. But like I already said, I can't sit here and say there's no fucking way I'd sell out, I'm just saying from where I see it now I don't think I ever could.

But yeah, I did come at him kinda shady, but thats the way Phenom and I work, if you couldn't tell.

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honestly i can point out plenty of flaws in the song itself....but then again i cant say shit about the video, and the direction your headed in the industry...all i can say is damn you fucker for beating me there....and i hope to be sittin next to you one day laughing at the idea of rv at the grammys.....i unno.....good progress...keep making moves

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lol...wow @ turning dudes Vid thread into a shit talking contest like ya'll r simon off american idol...LOLOL


idk...song was ehhhh......Vid had good quality....deff coulda used more chicks....but thats pimp dude got a vid....good stuff man..is what it is..a club track, not my thing but i've deff heard worse ones....

good job man, keep kickin ass

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