^You really have no clue about what you're talking about do you? It doesn't matter. It's pointless arguing with someone so simple minded. Regardless of what you think, you've done nothing but validate your lack of intelligence for me. Anyone that's lived in St. Louis, Chi Town, NYC, LA, etc....knows exactly what I'm talking about. You're just some punk from a pretty town whose parents probably have a perfect marriage with 2 poodles in your house. In case you can't read...I grew up in South City. My parents lived in NoCo...but I was rarely there. South City = The Ghetto. I'm not claiming to be ghetto. I don't think ghetto's a place if you ask me...ghetto's a personality. It's all how you display yourself. It's where I grew up, but it isn't me. Get your facts straight. Pz herb.

Who are you speaking to?

Nevermind..im a little slow

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Naw i aint got 2 poodles, and my mom and dad split b4 i was born,and ghetto by definition is a fucking place, and somebody from the burbs can't 'display' themself as ghetto, its called being a wannabe.But according 2 what you say, any and everybody is ghetto.Go play somewhere small child.

^Go ahead, keep proving my point. If you're too stupid to understand that it is a personality trait that creates a ghetto...then you aren't even worth conversing with. What makes a ghetto so ghetto? 'I live in a crap place with all this violence and it's so dirty and the damn sink don't work, etc'. What's violence caused by? People. Why is a place so shitty? People are a large factor in that process. Why's my place so dirty? Get off your ass and clean it. How come I ain't got no money? Get a fucking job.

Ghetto's a personality...a mind state. Ghetto's a place by definition, but people are the cause. Now do you understand? Or was that too complicated for your mind to comprehend?

I've been in a lot of cities and stayed in many ghetto's, but you can not find more complex gang backdrop than in southern california. Yo have street gangs on every corner everywhere you look. Then those street gangs have less viloent counter parts, such a tag crews, party crews and drug runneres. The street gangs are controlled by the prison gangs. The prison gangs have modules which house different levels of power and control over the street gangs. There are several prison gangs competling for power of the prisons and the streets. Then you have the orginaized crime eleemnt, in LA, there not so much wise guy's, but professional type gang's. I mean the covert operations of these guy's amaze the authorites working to cathc them/ Then you have the different ethinic street gangs all waring. Then you have the infultration of cartel drug coops. They emploey,. recuirt and train the young street gangs of southerm cali, to run, smugggle breakdown, sell, and promote their drug products. This keeps an active participation of street kids who are looing to gain some repsect and earn a buck. All these elments domestic to the state, plus the addition of those spilling in over the border, makes thi ares more volitle that other areas. Los Angeles has one mean infestation of gangs, so the therm Gagnsta city really owns up here. It's has every federal agency spending more money and send more of their recruits to be trained in Los angeles. Living so close the TJ, just makes things crazy out here. It adds even more to the mix. I am not saying this cuz I live here, I am just calling facts...

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FUCKA BABYLON BANDIT!!!

Gangs, crews, whatever...

They're all blah.

Stand up on ya own.

Peace

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^STL lives up to everything you just stated except for the border situation and the street gang on every corner. Normally, the level of intelligence of these kids in the gangs in STL are extremely high. It's almost baffling some of the people you'll meet that are bangers. No shit, I think the majority of them are geniuses. The people they get to do the dirty work for them are the actual ignorant fiends.

Up here in Canada, the gangs are either asian, or the Hells Angles. Which is dope, cuz you can wear any color you want, go anywhere you want.......it's chill.

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^ I watched many smart kids get dusted growing up in gangs out here. Like I have said before, I was lucky to have got out before the worse. Others were not so lucky... I walked away and never looked back, to this day I still have homies looking me up, and telling me that was the best move I ever made. Tehy let me walk out with respect, but that not the case for everyone, smart kids get looked down on and worse for leaving the enviorment behind them. It really suck's die for a peice of land that they never owned in the first palce...

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FUCKA BABYLON BANDIT!!!

^I got out awhile back. Everything's all about drugs nowadays anyway. The only thing that makes it territorial is the fact that it's selling grounds now. Just a bunch of BS piling up that's bound to overflow. So, I got out. Unfortunately, Dime wasn't as respectful. I can't go down certain streets or in certain areas now. No thing though, now I don't have a need to go down those streets or in those areas.

Yep, it's all about drugs. See, I just grow my own weed, so it don't matter to me. But, for those who ain't down with you leave'n the game behind ya, fuck'm.

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^Fuck'em or be fucked...

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FUCKA BABYLON BANDIT!!!

yea true dat. then again, jus get'm before they get you.............................

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