Jay-z is considered one of the best rappers of all time...............well i don't think so............For someone who braggs about money and getting women he should be critiziced for his record selling ability.............in 9 lbums he has sold 17-18 million records all together, now that may sound good but in 3 albums eminem has passed that.........in 2 albums nell has tied it or right behind it...........jay-z got name reconition just not a quality product and thats why ppl don't buy it alot...........maybe if he waited a couple of years like a normal rapper to drop a cd it would be better and not just wack songs thrown together.............He won't even admit his relationship with beyonce and he quit rap for movies........like that will ever happen...............i know alot of you will say records sales don't mean anything he still the best......well he's not.........if he was the best he'd atleast be in the top 5 best records sales and he's not..............mc hammer is passed him................(i bet i'll be getting sworne at for this thread)

im with ya man...

i aint feeling much of jay-z...

yea he had acouple of hits...but IMO he is overrated big time...

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That is just fuckin funny...of course your lyrical skill depends on what your sales are, and of course Nelly is WAY better than Jay-Z, and of COURSE Jay-Z is always rapping about women and money...get a fuckin life Hova is dope

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its because jay-z has less appeal to teenage wwhite suburban kids... kinda like the peoples that say hes wack on this board. Jay's got the most street credit. the man built himself a dynasty. get ur mom to take u into the city one day (if u even have a big city) and everytime u see a car that bumpin rap music take note of who theyre listenin to... most likely its jay z. why? cause he appeals to the streets. why? because he raps about things that only people from that lifestyle can feel and truly relate to.

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That proves record sales dont mean anything. When Jay-z is surpassed by MC hammer. Jay-z's first few albums were...ight. But the blueprint and the blueprint 2 are two of the best albums of all time. Besides Eminem has the appeal of white America. White america isn't exactly knocking down the record stands to get a glimpse of Jay-z's hustler/drug dealer life before rap. So be real. The Eminem Show was one of the best selling rap albums ever but Em's first 2 CDs were six times better than that... tells you something.

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jay z is alright but hes not

Jay-z isn't one of my favourite rappers, but i can see how he appeals to as OPEY put it:
"the streets".....he has some dope lyrcial ability, don't hate on it, to put out what...9 albums or something in the space of a few short years..you gotta have some talent n' integrity to do that.....

"of course Nelly is WAY better than Jay-Z" i do seriously hope that was an act of attempted sarcasim..cos even thought i'd listen to Em or Obie before J...Nelly needs to go back to his farm.

What I find the funniest thing of all, Gunna XL's avatar is of Jay Z.

Jay has sold over 25mil..and he now is part owner of the nets..and last year..roc-a-wear did better in sales than,phat farm and sean john...

See ... Now that's a dope response to a wack thread ... Mad props for that Opey

LMAO ! I didn't even notice that ... That's some funny shit ... Damn

wow jay-z has not sold over 25 million........go to his website for the total count the put it up...............i hate fake niggaz sayion some stupid shit like he sold over 25 million.....................and jay-z is aight but he's not that good..................if he was that good he would be selling better but he isn't cuz he dosen't take time...........if jay-z did an album every 2 years then he'd be alot better but he drops one every week and the shit gets sickning cuz it's just thrown together.

Over 17 million albums sold….

Reasonable Doubt | 6/96 | 1xPlatinum

Vol 1. – In My Lifetime | 11/97 | 1xPlatinum

Vol. 2 – Hard Knock Life | 9/98 | 5xPlatinum

Vol. 3 – Life and Times of S. Carter | 12/99 | 3xPlatinum

Dynasty – Roc La Familia 2000 | 10/00 | 2xPlatinum
Blueprint | 9/01 | 2xPlatinum

MTV Unplugged | 12/01 | Gold

Best OF Both Worlds | 3/02 | Platinum

Blueprint 2: The Gift & The Curse | 11/02 | 2x Platinum


^^^^^^^^^^^^thats from www.rocafella.com see he hasen't even got to 20 million sold in 9 albums.