Are you really so drunk with prejudice that you scum of the brain media knock-offs honestly didn't look at the two mainstream candidates and think for a second that it should be NEITHER of them in office?....... No, you most likely voted for who your friends voted for.

Throughout the 20th century, presidents were elected to STOP wars, hell, Bush was elected in 2000 because of what he preached, peace, ending of Nation building, Eisenhower came in to stop the Korean war, Nixon came in to get us out of Vietnam, and after two terms of dumbass war thanks to Bush we have a candidate on the left talking about continuing Bush policies and labeling it "Change" versus mainstream combatant candidate of the right preaching "Change" and continuing of Bush policies based on rationality.

In the end we wound up with this:

Stay in Iraq until the invisible job is done
vs.
Stay in Iraq until the next president can handle it

The type of voting you morons did wasn't even like traditional America.

Sign of the times. Thanks for the change, dickheads.

I love the "I maybe have a promise" our president has to live up to or face the consequences of bad publicity we have now.

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Of course neither of those two morons should be president. But of course it was going to be one of them. What do you know of politics? Are you saying we all should have voted for a third party? Not really how this country has ever or will ever work. And as for voting for who my "friends" voted for, like most of the youth in this country they ALL voted for Obama. You can bet your ass i didnt vote for him.

2v...you going thru your Ron Paul dick withdrawls again?

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man shut the fuck up phil

third party candidates are traditional in america too..
and yes, that's the path you shoulda went.. maybe towards one of the very limited amount of people who said they actually would withdraw the troops ASAP

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Shit, Adam, where u @?

Take it from your man Bill Hicks

'It woulda been a war but a war involves more than one army.'

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What the hell do you mean, "you people"?

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Black people, duh

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typical fuck head response from 2v.

Yeah, lets just withdraw our troops tommorow so that way, theres no stabilty in the region!

Dont get me wrong, douch bag, i agree we need to get out as soon as the situation allows us to. But we made our own mess, and we need to make sure that we fix that shit before we leave.

Think about Vietnam...Korea...same principles, HORRIBLE results


fuck man, for someone as 'smart' as you, you'd think to have looked at the whole fucking picture.

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dude, fuck you, what's our obligation to them?

We helped them simply by merking Saddam.

so we're training their soldiers, and we gave them democracy, but they assassinate all their fucking leaders, and they're assassinating OUR soldiers, yet you don't think the stupid thing to do is pull out? Why? To risk the Muslims having Muslim country?

Yes we caused a mess, but all America has to do is open up relations with Iran and tell them not to fucking take over Iraq, no where else is a threat to Iraq and if Iraq has insurgents everywhere and if they really wanted a democracy then they would have it, but they don't, their people don't, mentally they are not ready for such a bullshit government system.

We're talking people that are comparable to 1600 Christians, in modern day, and you think we're helping? No, we're giving the countries surrounding Iraq a reason to kill us and we're giving Iraq a central bank, an easy-to-flaw government and leaving them right next to a patch of Muslim countries that will have their fucking head without us being around there to protect Little U.S.

so shut the fuck up.. we need to pull out and let what happens happen.

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Ya well not everyone wants Iraq to fall into the hands of the insurgency. If your like most Americans who aren't in the armed forces and you disagree with getting into this war, you probably think that pulling out all forces as fast as possible is a good idea. Its not. We cant go usurp the government of a country just to say peace were outty good luck.

I know we can't.

But we do it all the time-

It's just this time we convinced the american public to stick up for our armies, instead of sending in spies to take care of saddam.

We needed a massacre fit as payback for 9/11.

Now we're in a fake bullshit war with an invisible army and we already got our massacre, why waste lives?

"Peace we're outty good luck" is pretty much in order.

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Ok, your right about 2 things

We can't win a war on terriosm ...becuase it is an ideology, not an army

2nd...its true, american's only agree'd to go to war because we did need to do something, we needed to do anything in order to go, 'ok, now were even'

but, we did do that...when we went into afghanstan

unfourtnely, a majority of people thought we should go into Iraq....

but, pulling out would be even worse than staying in there....for 2 reasons

1. It would make us look like fucking murderes

y? 'yeah, lets go into a country, kill kill kill, than go fuck this shit...let them kill each other'

tell me that wont improve our already fucked imagine among the world's population

2. We need to have a strong alliances in the middle east, if we can maintain a great realtionship with Iraq, we can start to help solve our problems with Iran. Although it seems like that wouldn't make sense, because Iran is saying that we are trying to build a colony out of Iraq...they are prob. right by saying that with Bush in office. But with Obama, you can already tell that the world wants to talk. Amedajen (spelling?) already sent a congratulations letter and wants to tlak with Obama.

Obama winning office was the best thing to happen in America since JFK.

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we dont have a democracy in america, we are a REPUBLIC!!! why people keep sayin we're a democracy, shit pisses me off, if we were actually a democracy i may actually vote in our shit government system.
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the rest you said made sense. but imagine why we decided to go after a random country right in the middle of a bunch of muslim countries, i think we're staying there longer on purpose 1. cuz we're scared to actually go into iran and 2. we just want to be close to iran to keep a better watch on that regions ability to make nuclear weapons.
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u ever seen seriana with matt damon and ocean, i mean george cloony? shits pretty crazy.
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makes u think how much america is hated in the middle east and how seriously americans aren't allowed in entire countries like that. dude had to say he was canadian while working for the american government just to move around in the middle east.
..i still dont fully understand half of that movie

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Achmedinejad ? lol Amedajen.

Ach - me - dine - jad

annoying name... easier to say, and most politicians still can't. ha.

"1. cuz we're scared to actually go into iran and 2. we just want to be close to iran to keep a better watch on that regions ability to make nuclear weapons."

Your point 2 is contradictory because we do have spies in and around Iran trying to find out if they are making nuclear weapons and if we go into war with Iran then it would be completely pointless to even worry about nuclear weapons because we'll be on their soil.

Imagine getting assaulted by Russia in Alaska and then nuking them on Alaskan soil, stupid as fuck much?

So in other words we're already spying on Iran and attacking the country, we wouldn't have to worry much at all about spies, we'll be parading through their streets trying to win them over.

Problem? They love their country.. They are the future of Persia, remember, King Xerxes attacking the Spartans? Yeah, that shit originated in Ancient Iran. So now they have a bunch of Shi'ite Muslims showing patriotism towards their country leader, who, for the record, has never killed any of their own people to test things like nuclear weapons, so running into Iran would actually take fighting against a standing army and airplanes.

That's what people don't get, and you need to apply that to your brain, right now.

Iraq didn't have airplane wars with us, Iraq didn't have a few tanks on the field and soldiers being lead by generals, it had a few standing squads who gave in on sight of the Allied forces and a few squatting squads hiding in caves with their Presidential dictator who has 8 doubles running around Iraq. We could have executed a fake fucking Saddam Hussein.

With Iran, you have an airforce that bought its planes from the U.S. and Russia, is allied with Russia, has standing armies that are willing to fight and defend their land of Iran, and has a few tanks, now trying to get into nuclear energy for their own purposes, in fact, I'm willing to bet that the insurgents are a majority consisted of Iranians, because Iranians are so fearful that America might come in and attack Iran and threaten take over, that they are causing ruckus in the country next to them to make America feel like they still have a problem to deal with in Iraq and can't handle a second war.


There.

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