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Old 09-04-08, 02:05 PM   #1
Logic The Goonie
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I'm voting for McCain for a few reasons. The strongest belief I have in this election is that taxes shouldn't be as high as Obama wants to make them. I'm a firm believer in capitalism, and Obama's tax policies are coming close to bordering socialist. If Obama said he wouldn't raise taxes to outrageous levels I'd definitely consider voting for him.

Dude, I already explained this on the second page. I'm not talking about the top 1-3% of this population in terms of income. I'm talking about middle class people. Of course if you're making $50 million a year and the government takes half you should still be fine (though that's not always the case, but if you can't manage yourself with that much money, you're pretty much an idiot), but that's not the income bracket I'm talking about or arguing for.

I don't believe if you work hard to open a business or do something innovative that you should be required to give back half of your income. If you're already creating jobs and generating capital, doesn't that provide the "American dream" to other people? If I open a successful business and hire you, aren't you better off then if I hadn't opened a business and hadn't hired you? What's a person's motivation to put in the required work to open a business or do something innovative, create jobs, and generate capital if the government is going to take away half of it and give it to people who don't necessarily deserve it? That's why socialism will always fail. There's no motivation to work hard.

Your analogy about a person's mom isn't accurate and doesn't sum up this situation. I'd present a counter analogy but I can't think of one that covers everything I'm saying. It's just your analogy fails to factor in the good people who start businesses are already doing, both for the economy and for other people. It's not like the country gave me a bunch of opportunities and I turned that into a good thing for just me. The people who I'm talking about have given back to the country and continue to give back to the country everyday (via jobs, goods and services, taxes that they're already required to pay, etc.).

I get what you're saying and I respect the hell out of you for doing what you're doing, and I wish you the best of luck. I just can't support raising taxes very high, and that's the main reason I'm not voting for Obama.

Yeah, you do have a point, but for the record, I don't work 2 jobs, I work a full-time job and go to school roughly 3/4 time, so don't respect me TOO much, lol.

I think more than anything I'm tired of the level of corruption there has been on the federal level with Republicans in office, and that's the biggest reason I would vote Dem almost regardless of the issues, it just so happens I have liberal ideals as well. That's a whole other story though.
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