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Old 08-25-06, 11:30 AM   #1
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What are the deepest songs you've heard and why?

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Bruce Springstein - The River

This song is fucking beautiful; my personal favourite by Big Bruce and that's saying a lot. It's such a deep tale of how a young man fucked up his life by getting a young girl pregnant and then marrying her. The economy in the town runs dry and he has to work really hard to support his young family and had to say goodbye to all his dreams in life. The River drying up reflects this.

"Now I just act like I dont remember, mary acts like she dont care
But I remember us riding in my brothers car
Her body tan and wet down at the reservoir
At night on them banks Id lie awake
And pull her close just to feel each breath shed take
Now those memories come back to haunt me, they haunt me like a curse
Is a dream a lie if it dont come true, or is it something worse?"


^Dope as fuck, especially the last two lines.

Johnny Cash - Hurt

Despite what people might think Johnny Cash didn't write this song, but that doesn't change anything. The thing that makes this song so good is the way he sings it, the way his voice is riddled with such immeasurable sadness and pysichal affliction. Don't forget he was very very old when he sang this, and it was only a short time after his wife died. The way he plays the guitar and synchronizes it with the infinite sorrow in his voice makes this one of the greatest songs I've heard. Lyrically it's on another level, and was so appropriate to what he went through with his woman passing away.

"I hurt myself today, to see if I still feel
I focus on the pain, the only thing that's real
The needle tears a hole, the old familiar sting
I try to kill it all away, but I remember everything
What have I become? My sweetest friend
Everyone I know, goes away in the end
And you could have it all, my empire of dirt
I will let you down, I will make you hurt"


2pac - Wonder Why They Call You Bitch?

For me this is an overlooked classic by 2pac. Most people go on about Dear Mama and Until the End of Time but for me this is as good if not better, just because of how real it is. Brenda's Got a Baby is similar but it's a little too short in my opinion. This track is a classic and is very sad, just because of how real it is. It's tragic how many young women living in the slums see fucking rich men as the only way out of poverty. And it's equally tragic how many of them catch AIDS, lose everyone they ever loved, and die. This track deals this issue and although the title may raise a few eyebrows it's actually deep as fuck.

"I pass by can't hold back tears inside
Cause Lord knows, for years I tried
And all the other people on my block hate your guts
Then you wonda why they stare and call you slut.
It's like your mind don't understand
You don't have to kill your dreams plotting schemes on a man
Keep your head up, legs closed, eyes open
either a nigga wear a rubber or he die smokin'
I'm hearin' rumors so you need to switch
and niggas wouldn't call you bitch, I betcha."


Big Pun - Punish Me

For me this is the greatest love loss track ever written. It's not just lyrically amazing, it's word perfect, and there are hardly any tracks/songs that can be said about. Throughout the track he paints a subliminal picture of how he loved this woman and how she played him and used him for his money. Though that isn't the focal point of the track it's the bit that stands out the most. Not only does the bitch cheat on him she gives birth to his son and takes off with him, then has the audacity to beg his forgiveness. I'm sure many men can relate to this and know how painful these situations are.

"I was the luckiest man on earth, my wisdom was worth
Any purse but had a curse that hurt worse than givin birth
My first verse explains some of the game she was playin
Im blamin myself cause in my wealth was her pain would haven
Behavin like a money hungry hooker, funny how the money took her
From a average honey to a stunning looker
I look back and reminsce how we used to kiss
And smash hips in the gs I bought her last christ
She got too big for her britches but the britch is over
Not the one in queens I mean the one she dreamin wasnt sober
Told her how I felt, gassed me when she cried for help
Supplied the guilt trip and I was whipped without a fuckin belt
I felt stupid cupid struck me with a poison arrow
Shoulda drowned ya when I found ya crushin in my boys camaro
I didnt bother but you probably find your lover dead
You robbed me of my honor, you aint shit like my mother said"


Tracy Chapman - Fast Car

This is a sad song sang from the perspective of a woman who goes through a lot of shit and is in love with this guy who is obviously an asshole. First of all her dad becomes really ill so she has to skip school to look after him and because of it fucks up her education. Then when she gets older she meets this guy who is a lazy bastard and won't get a job so she has to work doubly hard and is stuck in the slumswith a dead dream that is going nowhere. Again this song is on the list because of how real it is. I'm not a fan of her singing but this song is extremely clever and is also very sad.

"You see my old man's got a problem
He live with the bottle that's the way it is
He says his body's too old for working
I say his body's too young to look like his
My mama went off and left him
She wanted more from life than he could give
I said somebody's got to take care of him
So I quit school and that's what I did
You got a fast car
But is it fast enough so we can fly away?
We gotta make a decision
We leave tonight or live and die this way"
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Old 08-25-06, 11:34 AM   #2
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The Obie Story by Obie Trice.. i'd quote lines but i'd hafta quote almost the whole damn song.. that shit seriously sounds like my life.. only difference is im 19 so the rest of that shit can't happen yet..
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Kanye West - Hey Mama.

^^ that was almost better than Tupac's Dear mama.
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Old 08-25-06, 12:02 PM   #4
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The Obie Story by Obie Trice.. i'd quote lines but i'd hafta quote almost the whole damn song.. that shit seriously sounds like my life.. only difference is im 19 so the rest of that shit can't happen yet..


Word Obie can come up with some nice tracks.
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Old 08-25-06, 12:44 PM   #5
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I cant say a deepest.......

'Immortal technique - you never know' would rate pretty highly.. And 'The philosophy of poverty' by him.......

Tupac has way too many songs to mention....and their all 100% on point...

Eminems got a few..........shit like 'If I had', 'When I'm gone', 'Rock bottom', 'Sing for the moment'.......etc

Biggie - Suicidal thoughts is the best I've heard from him...

Nas - We Will Survive is a fucking tight song......hes got a few others aswell..

Thats all I can think of for now...........


Rap songs are way better for deep shit than rock... But rock sets the mood better.......
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Old 08-25-06, 01:07 PM   #6
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Most deep rock songs are found in more classical music. Ie. Pink Floyd, Various Blues Artists... But there is one newer song that I find pretty deep...

Thursday - War All The Time

Standing on the edge of the palisades cliffs
In the shadow of the skyline very far away
A lightning rod that couldn’t pull the storm from me
I was 5 years old my best friends older brother died
He fell from these cliffs
The river washed him away the current pulled him downstream
In our eyes, floating in the headlights, so we parked these cars
Parent’s garage
Listen to the lullaby
Of Carbon Monoxide

War all of the time
In the shadow of the New York skyline
We grew up too fast falling apart
Like the ashes of American flags
The sun doesn’t rise
We replaced it with an h-bomb explosion
A painted jail cell of blood in the sky like Three Mile Island
Nightmares on TV they used to sing us to sleep
They burn on and on like an oil field
Or a memory of what it felt like
To burn on and on and not just fade away
All those nights in the basement the kids are still screaming
On and on and on and on

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Old 08-25-06, 01:55 PM   #7
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"Let me touch you and see if you are real" ... Kirk Franklin and the fmaily off the "Wutchu Lookin' 4" album... listen to that song when you are going thru a rough time... gets me thru mine almost every time
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Old 08-25-06, 02:24 PM   #8
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DL Incognito - Fight This (www.myspace.com/dlincognito)
Shai Linne - Slow Down
Kris Cain (RB) - Church
Phene - Stories & Hopeless
T.I. - Live in the sky
Common - I used to love H.E.R.
Common - Retrospect for life ft. Lauryn Hill
Jadakiss - Why remix ft. Styles P, Common, & Anthony Hamilton
Mase - Gotta Survive
Talib Kweli - Lonely People
CunninLynguists - Mindstate, Seasons, The Gates ft. Tonedef
G-Dep - Everyday
Lyfe Jennings - S.E.X.
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Old 08-25-06, 02:29 PM   #9
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dead prez. nuff said.
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Old 08-25-06, 03:03 PM   #10
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I cant say a deepest.......

'Immortal technique - you never know' would rate pretty highly.. And 'The philosophy of poverty' by him.......

Tupac has way too many songs to mention....and their all 100% on point...

Eminems got a few..........shit like 'If I had', 'When I'm gone', 'Rock bottom', 'Sing for the moment'.......etc

Biggie - Suicidal thoughts is the best I've heard from him...

Nas - We Will Survive is a fucking tight song......hes got a few others aswell..

Thats all I can think of for now...........


Rap songs are way better for deep shit than rock... But rock sets the mood better.......


I find Rock sets my mood much better and hits me much harder than rap songs do, unless the rap songs are godly (such as the ones I listed). If I Had is dope as hell and is my personal fave by Eminem, but I didn't include it in my list as I wanetd to keep it down to 5 and writing a synopsis for each track is a bitch. Sing for the Moment and Rock Bottom are also otherworldly dope.
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Big Pun ft Donnell Jones - It's so Hard.
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2pac - Wonder Why They Call You Bitch?

For me this is an overlooked classic by 2pac. Most people go on about Dear Mama and Until the End of Time but for me this is as good if not better, just because of how real it is. Brenda's Got a Baby is similar but it's a little too short in my opinion. This track is a classic and is very sad, just because of how real it is. It's tragic how many young women living in the slums see fucking rich men as the only way out of poverty. And it's equally tragic how many of them catch AIDS, lose everyone they ever loved, and die. This track deals this issue and although the title may raise a few eyebrows it's actually deep as fuck.

"I pass by can't hold back tears inside
Cause Lord knows, for years I tried
And all the other people on my block hate your guts
Then you wonda why they stare and call you slut.
It's like your mind don't understand
You don't have to kill your dreams plotting schemes on a man
Keep your head up, legs closed, eyes open
either a nigga wear a rubber or he die smokin'
I'm hearin' rumors so you need to switch
and niggas wouldn't call you bitch, I betcha."

Big Pun - Punish Me

For me this is the greatest love loss track ever written. It's not just lyrically amazing, it's word perfect, and there are hardly any tracks/songs that can be said about. Throughout the track he paints a subliminal picture of how he loved this woman and how she played him and used him for his money. Though that isn't the focal point of the track it's the bit that stands out the most. Not only does the bitch cheat on him she gives birth to his son and takes off with him, then has the audacity to beg his forgiveness. I'm sure many men can relate to this and know how painful these situations are.

"I was the luckiest man on earth, my wisdom was worth
Any purse but had a curse that hurt worse than givin birth
My first verse explains some of the game she was playin
Im blamin myself cause in my wealth was her pain would haven
Behavin like a money hungry hooker, funny how the money took her
From a average honey to a stunning looker
I look back and reminsce how we used to kiss
And smash hips in the gs I bought her last christ
She got too big for her britches but the britch is over
Not the one in queens I mean the one she dreamin wasnt sober
Told her how I felt, gassed me when she cried for help
Supplied the guilt trip and I was whipped without a fuckin belt
I felt stupid cupid struck me with a poison arrow
Shoulda drowned ya when I found ya crushin in my boys camaro
I didnt bother but you probably find your lover dead
You robbed me of my honor, you aint shit like my mother said"



^^^ i agree with those right there nice pick....

also dear mama!! cuz i dont care how tuff u think u are or what beef u have with u'r moms there is mad respect u have to give ya moms for raising u the way u are if it wasnt for her u would be a no-body.... an everything he said in that song was so so true....

RANSOME= off that so sincre beat.... because he spit true facts about life an what am going throu he spit about so perfect that i couldnt say it any better an i dont think anyone will....

QUOTE:
let me know if times to split ways,
i love making music, but aint got noting to do with how i get paid
i gotta hit the filed an grin like a sick slave
i wore these same rip jeans for like 6 days
look in the mirra an seen 6 graves
am not a child no-more this aint the 6th grade
yo last night was the first time this kid prayed
i asked god to help me get out this big maze
they spit strays across the street where my kid play
this aint a quick phaze this is how the shit stays
grimmy as hell u be lucky to get grazed
then have that big gauge blow off like 6 braids
how can u be so broke especially at this age
how can u fuck that bitch raw an risk aids
how can u not feel that pain deep in ya rib cage
dog u only got dro money.. how u gonna get haze??
every slick phraze sharp like a switch blade
narc with that quick raid, spark where that snitch stays
prison nah its dark in that brick cage
the water aint clear theres sharks in them thick waves
going to court for trail... now thats tortchure pal
how u paying child support when u support ya child
if this is the life then toss me in a cuffin now
the liquer an smoke is probley why am coffin now
you lover her to death cant think about abortion now
your wify is a ryder you know u cant devorce her now
an the provider danm you done lost it now
she doing her thing an now u getting boss around
so u hit the block, its time to start flossin now
show her you aint that niggas to start crossing now
you get locked up cant get ya back up off the ground
the prison system i call it the black lost an found
you got the game twisted
you think a mixtape can prevent myt daugther from having another lame christman
am in the same district with bitches that flames biscuit
you get ya brains shifted just to get ya chain lifted
HOMMIE... i sacrafist my life for this
my babymother dont really know how am nice with this
she think am playing around cant pay the lights with this
that shit aint meat on the table cant eat no rice with this
DANM...
i spit pain till it reach the center
of ya stomuch i lethal i hope the street remember
cant wait to reach december
cuz why ya arguing ova who got the summer my niggas trying to keep the winter...
* thats where most niggas cop boundles*

^^^^ thats like 99.9 precent of my true life story so yea i feel this to the MAX DAGREE.....
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Old 08-25-06, 04:49 PM   #13
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What's the title and artist of that track Rex? I'd like to hear it.
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The deepest songs too me are as follows

Joe Budden - Walk Wit Me
T.I. - Live In The Sky
Immortal Technique - Caught In A Hustle
2pac - Keep Ya Head Up
Lyfe Jennings - S.E.X
Lyfe Jennings - Must Be Nice
Proof - Kurt Kobain
Dead Prez - I Have A Dream Too
2pac - Ghetto Gospel
2pac - Po Nigga Blues
Louis Logic - All Girls Cheat
Big L - Street Struck
Brother Ali - Picket Fence
Canibus - I honor You
Immortal Technique - Industrial Revolution
Sevendust - Ugly
Sevendust - Failure
Staind - Outside
The Game - Start From Scratch
The Game - Like Father,Like Son
2pac - My Block(REMIX)


this is all i can think of
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Old 08-25-06, 05:06 PM   #15
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Not many of them are deep in that they're sad dealing of real life issues and are full of emotion.
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