So, your friends are idiots?

My grammar needs tuning, and you started a sentence with and.......tisk...


Listen douche bag...i'm sorry I don't go out of my way perfect my grammar on rapverse. I'm in college, writing scholarship. I'm going to graduate early..with over a 3.8. One of the classes I took. J202. 1 page paper every morning of class. 15 minutes...any grammatical or spelling errors..you fail the paper. The papers are worth over 50% of your grade, i got an A..easy....so i apologize if I value your opinion on my grammer, a lot less than my college professors...but you'll understand once you get there if you make it. Terumoto doesn't think your an idiot. He knows you are wrong though. This other dude that just posted in here, said we were both right...simply because he didn't understand the argument. And, i've told about a total of 10 people....about how im trying to explain "nothing" to this guy....and they are all curious as to how you don't fucking understand it yet.....so really, do I give a shit about your stupid ass friend who is just as narrow minded as you? No. Do i care if you arn't willing to accept the fact that nothing doesn't exist....no. It's common sense. I bet I could ask my youngest sister, and off the top of her head, she could show a better understanding of this subject than you have shown after it was explained to you very thoroughly.



All i can say to you now is, to argue with me...is to argue with just about every scientist thats ever walked the face of the earth.



Now, if you are going to reply....please show me one possible example where "Nothing" in it's entirety...not just used as a word for measure....can exist in this world..right now....think real hard...think of ONE example...where you can say there is nothing, and there will be no way to deny it.....if you can't do this...just shut the fuck up....i'm tired of seeing your un-educated nonsense over and over.

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"watch what you watchin...fox keeps feedin' us toxin's..stop sleepin' start thinkin outside of the box and unplug from the matrix doctrine....but watch what you say cause big brother is watchin" - nas - sly fox

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I imagine that what it was like before I was born is exactly what it will be like after I die. So, on a related note, I suppose to be scared of death is to be scared of the same thing that was before life. There was nothing, from the perspective of 'me' at least, and when I die it will be that way again. No blackness, no space, no lost memories, no time, no emotions, no knowledge, no pain, no bliss even........just absolutely nothing.







Just trying to un-mutilate this thread. =/

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finally, someone with something of value to say.


like you said though, that "nothingness" isn't nothingness in it's entirety. That is soley your perspective. All those things still exist in the world, only difference is, you have lost the ability to recognize anything.


And i wouldn't say that to fear death is to fear the pre-birth experience all over again....I would say it's more, the fear of death is the fear of never being happy again. Never getting to do the things you love doing. While you are free from suffering, you are also kept from happiness. Not to mention, some people are a little shook by the idea of hell. But realistically....I think fear of death is a condition that is un-avoidable, it can only be treated when you reach a certain level of maturity and acceptance. As humans, especially americans...we're afraid of change. And Death is the biggest change any of us can possibly go through. It's not something we think about and spook ourselves with, but I think sub-conciously it's definately an active thought.

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Time is not long, and indecision is hells cemment. So the well is rented, untill heaven is relevant. Untill then, to be eloquent, sex cells, so le'ts cellibate.

"watch what you watchin...fox keeps feedin' us toxin's..stop sleepin' start thinkin outside of the box and unplug from the matrix doctrine....but watch what you say cause big brother is watchin" - nas - sly fox

The I.H.C.J.S.F.M.T.R.H.P.M.M.W.T.S.M.S.I.T.F.F.W.A.S. O Crew

I'll tell you something interesting. Have you ever seen that thing that cats do where they just stare out into space for long periods of time? Like they'll sit on a porch or a fence or a couch and just stare, it looks like they're daydreaming or something. Well a study was done, and in fact when cats do that, they have NO brain activity whatsoever. None. Not a brain wave at all besides the very tiny ones that keep them breathing and shit. No actual brain activity occurs.

Just another reason why cats are so awesome.

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This thread is somthing, nothing would of not been making a thread.

if this thread wouldn't have been made...it wouldn't exist..just like i've been saying the whole time.


however....you cannot say...."there is nothing" because i didn't make a thread on an online hip hop forum....


thats the whole point of this....there is a vast difference between there is no thread, and there is nothing. But, why am I explaining this to you....you arn't that yuppy ass un-educated pretend to be intellectual type that I was dealing with earlier

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Time is not long, and indecision is hells cemment. So the well is rented, untill heaven is relevant. Untill then, to be eloquent, sex cells, so le'ts cellibate.

"watch what you watchin...fox keeps feedin' us toxin's..stop sleepin' start thinkin outside of the box and unplug from the matrix doctrine....but watch what you say cause big brother is watchin" - nas - sly fox

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I'm sorry but you failed to persuade me and I failed to persuade you, and in SOME cases, we were both right. However, I see this and you don't, which gives me an easy upper-hand over you.

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You failed to persuade me because there is nothing to persuade me of. Your argument was empty, and based on nothing but a personal interpreation of a word.


In many cases, we could have argued and been both correct.

However, that is not possible in this case. Because for me to be right, which I am, because it's an un-deniable truth...would completely reverse any possibility of the latter.

Just like if you were right, which I, as well as most human beings over the age of 12, can gaurantee that you are not. But hypothetically speaking, if you were...I could not possibly be right.

That's just how it is. There is no grey area.


And i could flip this, and say that..."And your failure to see this as true gives ME the upper hand"

You can make your own rules about anything and everything, that doesn't make them effective though.

so instead I'll say.

By admitting i was right, even thought it is only partial, is admitting i was 100% successful in my intention.


Thanks

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I asked a 42 year old adult male who's been in the navy and studied Universe Relevance before and he told me I was closer to right than you were.

And this is the exact reason he gave me -

Because you spent the entire time in our so called "Argument" babbling about the importance of Nothing. Which obviously made it Something, which obviously made you contradict yourself all the way through the near-end of page 2.

You're a stupid fuck. lmao

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see, this is where you look stupid.


I never once argued the importance of nothing. I argued that nothing, in it's entirety, didn't even exist.
that it could not exist...because it's existance completely reverses the possibility of being nothing.

And please don't try to say I'm making nothing into something, by saying it's something that doesn't exist...because that just displays how basic your mind really is more-so than ever.

By saying nothing doesn't exist, i'm not contradicting myself, i'm doing my best in explaing something that is impossible for the human language to fully explain.


Oh yeah, the part that makes you look stupid. Is you claiming you understood me 100%. When you just proved that you didn't at all.

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Time is not long, and indecision is hells cemment. So the well is rented, untill heaven is relevant. Untill then, to be eloquent, sex cells, so le'ts cellibate.

"watch what you watchin...fox keeps feedin' us toxin's..stop sleepin' start thinkin outside of the box and unplug from the matrix doctrine....but watch what you say cause big brother is watchin" - nas - sly fox

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Oh, and I hope you understand what universal relevance is. It's a theory that suggests that there are things in the world, that are completely relevant to everything else....and the idea of this possibility.....would have to mean that EVERYTHING is relevant to everything.

It's basically a religous theory, from the perspective of science and science alone, that has absolutely nothing to do with him being able to judge who is right or wrong in this conversation.

Studying universal relevance you're entire life will not get you anywhere closer to understanding this topic.....

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Time is not long, and indecision is hells cemment. So the well is rented, untill heaven is relevant. Untill then, to be eloquent, sex cells, so le'ts cellibate.

"watch what you watchin...fox keeps feedin' us toxin's..stop sleepin' start thinkin outside of the box and unplug from the matrix doctrine....but watch what you say cause big brother is watchin" - nas - sly fox

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There are no answers to nothing; but there is infinite definitions.

Nothing is what it is: nothing; yet at the same time, nothing is almost everything.



[/Jimi Hendrix on LSD ]

I like the idea of you trying to contribute. And I like the idea of jimi hendrix on acid as well.

But that makes no sense. Human translations of perceptions mean don't mean anything in reality. They are just ways to communicate. The difference is, we can never fully explain any 1 thing in the world. So our babel is really just a feeble attempt to explain what we cannot.

You can say nothing has infinite definitions. But that is the tricky part. You can't define what doesn't exist. You can try to define the idea that something doesn't exist, but that's as close as you will ever come.

Human translation of human realities is a product of conditioning. Not truth.

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Time is not long, and indecision is hells cemment. So the well is rented, untill heaven is relevant. Untill then, to be eloquent, sex cells, so le'ts cellibate.

"watch what you watchin...fox keeps feedin' us toxin's..stop sleepin' start thinkin outside of the box and unplug from the matrix doctrine....but watch what you say cause big brother is watchin" - nas - sly fox

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Well, I'm sure technically, and I guess obviously, nothing really doesn't exist.

But a definition is not a fully explanation, I've found myself confused still and wondering about things after looking up a word or whatever.

noth·ing –noun
1. no thing; not anything; naught: to say nothing.
2. no part, share, or trace (usually fol. by of): The house showed nothing of its former magnificence.
3. something that is nonexistent.
4. nonexistence; nothingness:
dictionary.com

I guess what I'm trying to say is, how are you so sure our own human communication did not make up the literal thought and creation of "nothing". Or even if nothing exists.

"In the beginning, there was nothing."
^I guess that just makes things harder to understand for me.