Wth?? I just learned from this documentary that we trained Osama Bin Laden to fight against some enemies, and gave him hundreds of millions of dollars.. and same with Hussein which we gave billions..

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and? lol no wonder why hes rich,but i bet osama died

yea. i dont know bout hussein. but my teacher told me we traind osama. helped the taliban get out of "Depression" it was someone else to. i for get who. it was either Napolean or Hitler

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forgotten flow=illest sig on tha site rite now...hands down

Then that means your sayin Diabolic made the illest sig. and Tizzle did the words. so i cant take credit. i just inspired it

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well then diabolic+tizzle=dynamic duo

osama is/was rich because his family was rich...
billions of dollars in his family name.

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Long before the recent U.S./British invasion of Iraq, the charge that the Saddam Hussein regime had produced and used chemical weapons (such as mustard gas, VX and sarin), had the capability of producing biological weapons and was seeking to develop nuclear weapons has been bandied about by the imperialists to justify their unrelenting persecution of Iraq. This was the excuse for the whole charade of United Nations inspection and more than a decade of murderous UN “sanctions” which killed over a million Iraqi children. During the 1990s, the UNSCOM “inspectors” were shot through with U.S. agents, who planted surveillance devices and sent back espionage data to Washington on Iraq’s defenses. As we have emphasized, Hussein’s Iraq had every right to procure or develop any weapon needed to defend the country against the imperialist onslaught, and expulsion of the “UN”/U.S. spies was more than justified. When UN inspectors were readmitted last year, they failed to uncover any CBW (chemical and biological warfare) weapons at all and stated that everything indicated the Iraqi nuclear program had been shut down over a decade ago. Thereupon, Bush and Blair simply went ahead and ordered the attack anyway.

But beyond the bottomless hypocrisy and bushels of lies from Washington and London, for years the imperialists actively supplied Iraq with chemical and biological agents, built the factories to produce CBW arms, fed Baghdad intelligence data on where to use them, and dispatched agents to the battlefields to check up on their usage. Hussein’s regime did possess and use chemical weapons against the Iranian army during the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq War. This was a bloody slaughter between two reactionary capitalist regimes in which the workers and oppressed did not have a side. The Reagan administration in Washington early on backed Hussein’s Iraq in order to block the spread of Ayatollah Khomeini’s “Islamic Revolution”; then toward the end of the nine-year carnage, the U.S. secretly aided both sides in a cynical effort to produce a battlefield stalemate. Bits and pieces of information about the United States’ deep involvement in Iraq’s use of chemical weapons occasionally seep into the bourgeois press, but these snippets are quickly buried and the dots are not connected to show the whole picture.

After Baghdad’s initial successes in the war with Iran, Tehran launched “human wave” attacks with tens of thousands of Iranian soldiers overrunning Iraqi positions. The focus of these attacks was the Fao Peninsula, the spit of land south of the Shatt al-Arab (the river formed by the confluence of the Tigris and Euphrates), which is Iraq’s only access to the sea. Washington was worried that if Khomeini’s legions could storm across that narrow corridor, they could break into the vital oil-producing area of the Persian Gulf emirates and eastern Saudi Arabia (whose population is heavily Shiite). With a third the population of Iran, Iraq could not afford such heavy losses. As a last-ditch measure, Hussein began using poison gas. Last year when the Bush administration began citing Iraq’s use of gas in the war with Iran as an argument for “regime change” in Baghdad, the New York Times (18 August 2002) published an article revealing that: “A covert American program during the Reagan administration provided Iraq with critical battle planning assistance at a time when American intelligence agencies knew that Iraqi commanders would employ chemical weapons in waging the decisive battles of the Iran-Iraq war, according to senior military officers with direct knowledge of the program.”

It was long known that the U.S. supplied Iraq with satellite photography of the deployment of Iranian forces. But now the Times revealed a “highly classified program in which more than 60 officers of the Defense Intelligence Agency were secretly providing detailed information on Iranian deployments, tactical planning for battles, plans for airstrikes and bomb-damage assessments for Iraq.” DIA operative Lt. Col. Rick Francona reported directly from the battlefield on Iraqi use of nerve gas. The senior DIA official at the time, Col. Walter Lang, said the U.S. was “desperate to make sure that Iraq did not lose” the war with Iran. “The use of gas on the battlefield by the Iraqis was not a matter of deep strategic concern,” he said. The Pentagon “wasn't so horrified by Iraq’s use of gas,” said another veteran of the program. “It was just another way of killing people – whether with a bullet or phosgene, it didn't make any difference.” But the Times article neglected to mention that the U.S. not only knew Iraq was using chemical weapons, but it also supplied the precursor chemicals to produce them as well as “starter strains” for biological weapons.

Rumsfeld’s Handshake with Hussein

Documents declassified in recent months revealed that by November 1983, Secretary of State George Shultz was receiving intelligence reports that the Iraqis were resorting to “almost daily use of CW” against the Iranians and that “Iraq has acquired a CW production capability, primarily from Western firms, including possibly a U.S. foreign subsidiary.”1 Yet simultaneously Ronald Reagan issued National Security Decision Directive 114 (26 November 1983) which declared that the U.S. would regard “any major reversal of Iraq's fortunes as a strategic defeat for the West.” It was decided to reestablish diplomatic relations with Hussein. For this purpose, none other than Donald Rumsfeld (who had been secretary of war in the previous Republican administration of Gerald Ford) was dispatched to Baghdad in December 1983 where he cordially met with the Iraqi strongman (see photo) and informed him of Washington’s new attitude. Rumsfeld was not a government official at the time but emphasized the importance of this “direct contact between an envoy of President Reagan and President Saddam Hussein.”



Donald Rumsfeld (now U.S. secretary of war) warmly greets Saddam Hussein in December 1983. Rumsfeld was personal envoy of Ronald Reagan to arrange U.S. support for Iraq in war with Iran. (Photo: CNN)
Among other things, Rumsfeld pushed a project for a pipeline from Iraq to the Gulf of Aqaba in Jordan, next to Israel, to be built by Bechtel Corp, Shultz’s former company. Rumsfeld was back in Baghdad in March 1984, meeting with Foreign Minister Tariq Aziz the very day the UN cited Iraq’s use of chemical weapons against Iran; again he pushed the pipeline plan and offered Israeli support, to no avail (see Institute for Policy Studies, Crude Vision [March 2003]). In the wake of the U.S. invasion, Israel has raised the issue of a Baghdad-Haifa pipeline, and Bechtel (once headed again by Shultz) is in line to get the contract (London Guardian, 20 April). Accompanying Rumsfeld was National Security Council official Howard Teicher. In a sworn court affidavit in 1995, Teicher wrote that the United States “actively supported the Iraqi war effort by supplying the Iraqis with billions of dollars of credits, by providing military intelligence and advice to the Iraqis, and by closely monitoring third country arms sales to Iraq to make sure Iraq had the military weaponry required” (quoted in Washington Post, 30 December 2002). That weaponry included cluster bombs, supplied by a Chilean company at the CIA’s request.

It was not just “third country” sales. The Post article cited a $1.5 million order for pesticide chemicals from Dow Chemical, notorious for its production of napalm and Agent Orange for use in Vietnam. Approval was granted even though the export control officer noted that these chemicals would cause “death by asphyxiation.” That was not all that U.S. companies supplied. In an article titled “Anthrax for Export” (Progressive Magazine, April 1998), William Blum noted that “private American suppliers, licensed by the U.S. Department of Commerce, exported a witch’s brew of biological and chemical materials to Iraq,” including bacillus anthracis, clostridium botulinum and dozens of other pathogenic biological agents. This was detailed in a staff report for U.S. senator Don Riegle of the Senate Committee on Banking on “U.S. Chemical and Biological Warfare-Related Dual Use Exports to Iraq” (7 October 1994). The report notes that these deadly organisms “were not attenuated or weakened and were capable of reproduction,” and it adds: “It was later learned that these microorganisms exported by the United States were identical to those the United Nations inspectors found and removed from the Iraqi biological warfare program.”

So UN inspectors “found” exactly what the U.S. firms sent to Iraq with the permission of the U.S. government – some discovery! Yet to this day the New York Times (14 April), while admitting that the means for making Iraq’s chemical weapons “came primarily from Western companies years ago,” pretends that: “The data reveals that firms in Germany and France outstripped all others in selling the most important thing – specialized chemical-industry equipment that is particularly useful for producing poison gas.” So it’s supposedly the perfidious French and Germans at it again! But wait. Explaining an accompanying map, which lists no American firms, the writers state, “The countries of origin are compiled based on the exporter, not the manufacturer, because it was the exporter who decided to sell a sensitive item to Iraq.” So if the U.S. manufacturer exports it to Germany or France for re-export in order to evade U.S. export controls, as regularly occurred, or sends it via its own German or French subsidiary, for the Times this counts as a French or German export! This piece, from the Washington-based Wisconsin Project on non-proliferation, is the U.S. war propaganda machine at work again.

Fallujah 2: Britain’s Dirty Secret

In fact, not only did Monsanto and Dow Chemical and dozens of U.S. laboratories supply Iraq with materials for chemical and biological weapons, with full approval of the Department of Commerce, but the very industrial plants cited today by U.S. and British leaders as supposed proof that Iraq has “weapons of mass destruction” were built for Hussein with full knowledge that they could be used to produce CW arms. A case in point is the Fallujah 2 plant 80 km. outside of Baghdad. Spy satellite photos of the plant identifying it as a chemical weapons site were published by the CIA, and Colin Powell featured it in arguing for an invasion of Iraq at the UN Security Council in February. The same plant figured prominently in last September’s dossier by Britain’s Joint Intelligence Committee, which claimed that the plant (rebuilt after the 1991 Gulf War) was “formerly associated with the chemical warfare programme.” What Blair didn’t say, but the London Guardian (6 March) later revealed, was that the Fallujah plant was exported to Iraq by a British subsidiary of a German company, after approval by Margaret Thatcher’s cabinet over internal objections that it could be used to produce CW arms.



Fallujah 2 chlorine plant. CIA published satellite photos of plant, identifying it as chemical weapons site. UN inspection showed plant was inactive. (Photo: National Security Archive)
The Guardian exposé, titled “Britain’s Dirty Secret” shows that “British ministers knew at the time that the £14 million plant, called Falluja 2, was likely to be used for mustard and nerve gas production.” A Foreign Officer minister objected to the sale, but he was overruled by the trade minister in line with London’s policy of backing Hussein against Iran. The plant was built in 1985 by Uhde Ltd., a British subsidiary of Uhde, GmbH of Dortmund, which in turn was a subsidiary of the German chemical giant Hoechst. Not only did the British government approve the deal, it granted an export credit guarantee and eventually paid Uhde (now owned by Thyssen-Krupp) £300,000 when Iraqi payments were interrupted by the Gulf War. If Fallujah did produce chemical weapons before 1990, the responsibility is to be laid squarely on the doorstep of the British prime minister’s residence at No. 10 Downing Street.

Whether this was ever a poison gas plant is another question. Repeated UN inspections since last November reported that the plant was inactive. The plant formerly produced chlorine, which can be used to produce epichlorohydrin (a precursor to mustard) or phosphorus trichloride (a precursor of nerve gas). Yet chlorine is the key chemical for water purification, which is what Baghdad said it was used for. The Foreign Office argument in 1985 was that Iraq already had enough chlorine plants. But after the Gulf War, Iraq’s entire chlorine production capacity was destroyed, and the U.S. deliberately targeted Iraqi waterworks. The resulting contaminated water supply produced massive sickness and disease. The Fallujah plant’s chlorine was desperately needed for water purification, and there is not a shred of evidence it was used for anything else in the last decade. Yet under UN sanctions, the U.S. refused to allow any import of materials for chlorine production. The Iraqi people paid the price with hundreds of thousands of deaths.

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^read all of it...i know its long but its worth reading...

if youd like to see even more fucked up shit about the iraq war go here...

http://www.internationalist.org/chemwarhoax0503a.html
^PART1

http://www.internationalist.org/chemwarhoax0503b.html
^PART 2

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i didnt read all of schema's post, shit i didnt read past the first sentence (sry, im lazy) but im sure it said somethin to the effect of America gave Iraq billions of dollars worth of weapons which they eventuall used on us...