They are just lucky that I am a pacifist otherwise I would knock them the fuck out. Word.

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there are so many blind sheep in this thread is pathetic. Dabatos, hop of the q's nut sack.

as you were.

agree with 1 thing...God is the winner here

nobody's mad except the devil...

this dialogue was great...

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lolz................. only rebuking bro, nothing else.

Haven't heard anyone say as you were since the marines bro dang lol.

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This is what Ive been trying to get across but the point has been dodged.




then to get this reply about the point is very sad. i appreciatte that you have a meaning in your life and it gives you fullfillment, i respect that 100%. But seriously? come one now.. come on now.

You speak the words of a blind sheep.

yes a lot of action in my life would fall under the catagory of this man made word called 'sin'.

But do I beleive they are a 'sin'? if they are morally wrong within myself then I wont do something.. if it harms another human and my actions effect another human.. i wont do it..

yes that guy is gay ( nothing against that.. everyone for there own) but you pointed the finger at me.. acusing me of all sorts of.. as you would call it 'sins'.. I dont beleive in what you beleive in.. so to me they are actions.. not sins.. they are pleasure.. not sins... they are part of life...

Now you and tha q are here tryna preach and point the finger at us.. tryna paint it like we are simple mediocre humans while you and him are above us because you 'beleive in god'.
double check yourself.. untill both of you are perfect and dont 'sin' and live perfect lives (in the aspect as your 'god' paints it) your preaching can fuck off!!
You admit you sin. so fuck off.
tha q admits he sins.. so fuck off!!


Ill watch porn.. ill drink my beer.. Ill have sex before marriage.. ill smoke a blunt..ill swear..
But at the same time I will help other people who need help.. I will respect another man 100% even if opinion differs.. i will allways be caring and helpfull.. i will do the best in my eyes.. and if I go to 'hell' for that.. then fuck your heaven.. if its a bunch a judgmental.. one eye'd no respect..contridicting humans like you two there.. i would rather be as far away from the place a possible..


done.

So because you believe its not a sin, its not a sin? If it says lying is bad but you think its right, that mean's its okay to lie? So when the bible says murder is a sin yet you think murder is okay because you believe its okay than its not a sin because you say its not a sin? Because you think its okay does not mean it is okay. These things that are written in the Bible are written to help us as well. For ex.

It says dont lie. Why? Lying isn't good period. Keep lying and it will come back to haunt you. If you dont care, than people will see you as a liar and who would trust you at that point? Thats why it says don't lie for your own benefit.

Porn, it talks about how that is wrong and not good for you. why? Porn is entertaining but also causes you to lust things in the world of fantasy. causing you to live in a world of fantasy to the point you would go to video's to feel content. Yeah Porn makes you horny and feels great to watch. But at the end, would you want everyone at work to know you watched that? What if they all knew? Yeah its normal, but what about to all the women you might want to date? They would get turned off, and you know they would. Why? Because it's not right.

Adultery: It talks about how thats wrong int he Bible. Why?!? Because you're hurting the one you loved and promised to only love until death does you part.

The bible is not judgmental. I never judged anyone, its not my job to do that. Who doesn't sin? Everyone sin's but its up to you if you want to try your best to repent from it. The things in the Bible isn't there to show us how good we can be but to show us how bad we are. That's awesome that you want to help other people and respect another man 100% even if their opinion differs. Thats great that you will always be caring and helpful. I never said anyone is horrible. All i have been doing is rebuking what everyone has been saying. They said "This" about the Bible, when it really meants "that."

I have double checked myself. NO ONE is perfect. No one can ever live a perfect life. But it does that mean you can't try to live as perfect as God would love to see you live?

sin = You doing what you believe what is wrong.

If you do what you believe is wrong than thats a sin.

done.

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done.

I didnt say because i beleive its not a sin. YOU call it a sin, i dont beleive in the word sin, ca n you not respect that I dont beleive the same things as you? or are you that closed minded that if I dont beleive the world turns exactly how you do.. that makes me wrong?

Im not saying your wrong.. I appreciatte and respect your beleifs. they are yours.. not mine.. but Im not here tryna prove your wrong.. Im here tryna tell you that we all beleive in diffrent meanings..outcomes..reasons..rights..wrongs.. your christians allways paint it like.. 'if they dont beleive what we beleive they are wrong' why? what makes you right and us wrong? I see it we are all right.. because we are living whats suitable for our lives.. I have the freedom to choose my own thoughts..ideas..knowledge and outlook on life.. and if you cant respect that..then its peace.

Stop tryna force your beleifs down everyones throats.. people will choose to beleive if an when they want to.. its not like its hard to go out and learn about god and his ways.. let people make the decision fcor themself.. no one likes to be TOLD how to think.. unless they are weak minded.. irony?


and to focus more directly on the content of your post:

Porn: how the fuck does the bible say porn is bad? you telling me that mary and her home girls made porn back in the day..?? outtahere.

Lies: yes lies are bad.. that goes without saying.. but EVERY hman on earth lies.. its a part of life.. even you lie and you will do untill the day you die.. I personally try my best to be straight forward and honest.. but sometimes a white lie is suitable.

Adultry: ye sits wrong.. but common sense tells me that.. not the bible.

everyone for there own brother..

i just have a quick question... Q, you are a christian than you believe that Jesus forgives you of your sins against him and the father. But also by being a christian you know that you will not be absolved from your sins unless you are TRULY sorry for your sins... and as i was tought in my 12 years of catholic school, if you repeat an action of sin than you are not TRULY sorry for that sin, and hence are not TRULY forgiven.....

i mean you can say your sorry but if you repeat the action you are not really sorry and to think you are sorry is lying to yourself, but as you would know...cant lie to god... so in fact you are not forgiven for your sins... unless you stop lying to yourself and become truly sorry for your ways.....

all in all its just something i wanted to clear up with your conflicting argument

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also the trying to save others by bringing jesus in their lives is actually against gods will....

he made everyone in his likeness and gave everyone free will to choose him....sure i understand (for the fire analogy) shouting out hey your house is on fire, but you would have no right to run in and save them unless they asked to be saved...sure you can give them the information but GOD gave them the right to choose what to do with that information, and if GOD isnt trying to make them believe anything in a certian way, what gives YOU that right.......

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would you fuck a monkey?

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i would if i were a christian and god told me to

Whose repeating an action? I mentioned this about 4 pages ago when I marked the distinction between us being sinners by nature (Original sin caused by Adam's fall) and sinning by practice...

I agree that sinning by practice, meaning not being contrite for sin, will bring judment and God hates it...

That SHOULDN'T be the life of a Christian...

Adam said earlier that he fornicates, lies, and that he makes no qualms about it...That = practicing sin...

A true believer will sin, be contrite, but STRIVE toward being more like Christ...not boast in rebellion.

So, again, I ask...where are your assumptions coming from? I don't practice sin. But, when I do fall, I thank God that he's given us Christ who is the propitiation for our sin...by the shedding of his blood.



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