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Old 04-24-07, 10:18 PM   #1
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is there a way to turn up my vocals without turning up the static or hissing in the background. cuz i know i can reduce the hissing but that takes a lot away from my vocals at the same time. i just want my words to be loud with out the hissing. i been tryin forever and it comin to me. plz help
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Old 04-24-07, 10:58 PM   #2
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It's easier if you record louder and lower the volume. It makes the final product sound better.....or to make it easier, just lower the beat instead of raising the vocals
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Old 04-25-07, 12:56 AM   #3
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^^^ yeah i been doin that, then my last song sounded to quiet... im thinkin now my shit is too bassy. not that i have a real low voice but when i hear it, it seem like all my vocals are hittin the base on the speaker and not fadin in with the beat. is that eq'n? if so what would i do to fix that.
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Old 04-25-07, 02:53 PM   #4
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to start you don't use any bulshit "de esser" you learn how to mix and strip it out manually. That hiss is ALWAYS gonna be on your vocals though, its stuck "inside" your highs.

a good fix is a noise gate when you record, a better fix is to get a mic that's actually worth a damn. the best fix is to have a professional mix your vocals.
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Old 04-25-07, 04:48 PM   #5
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de esser in the directx... ya i had that at first. whats wrong w/ that and whats strip out manually... and no i dont have money to pay for u to fix my stuff, just help a brotha out
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Old 04-25-07, 11:32 PM   #6
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you want to know what's wrong with a de esser? you already said it: "i know i can reduce the hissing but that takes a lot away from my vocals at the same time". Once you said that I already knew you were using a de-esser. Personally, I never have and never will use a de esser. Noise gates. Volume envelopes. Equalizers. These are the tools i use to extract hiss out of a vocal with surgical precision. "Presets" butcher the sound. Everything I use is custom made. I can't think of one tool i use that's fresh out the box.


im not suggesting you spend money because i want you to spend money. im suggesting you spend money because what you want to do is not do-able on your budget. With Cooledit and "presets" you're trying to get an Escort to run like a Ferrari. "champagne tastes on beer money" is fitting.
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Apexx make a studio type quailty tutorial for cool edit

that's an oxymoron lol. nah furreal man I'd be here all day if i broke down why you can't sound pro via cooledit but the #1 handicap is its sample rate. cool edit is hobby grade man, its like you doing graphics on MS Paint. best way to get studio quality out of cooledit, my bad, best way to TRY to get studio quality out of cooledit, is to record your session and export it into an entry level Pro grade program like Nuendo or Cubase. or even better, just flat out record it in a better program with a real sample rate like nuendo or cubase.
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Old 04-26-07, 03:21 PM   #13
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^lol these cats dont have logic pro money. or logic pro skills, logic is definitely what i'd call "advanced" on both the pocket and the ability. besides, you know my chant is DP anyway lol.

El Rey, a noise gate should trim some of that hiss off and you still want to set the mic input gain at an acceptable level where you're not clipping where you record. to get the left chanel back to center set the recording chanel input from Stereo to the Left chanel. as for tuts, i dont know of any. i dont know of any tuts for any programs specifically champ i don use em and i dont need em. what i do need is to find out how to get my damn input how to read in DP and still send to the default out. but that's another topic.
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Old 04-26-07, 11:27 PM   #14
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shit take so long to do manually, other than settin your own presets to speed up the process can u set a preset with all your presets? so i dont have to go through each one individually each time for each track. if i could just hit one preset for all my presets, for each track that would be dope. if not is mixin all the vocals down to one track then mixin'em all at the same time take a lot from the quality? cuz that would be one way i know to speed it up.
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either way my biggest deal is distortion now wit the co1u. i got the hissin to a respectable level but i can't do anything to the distortion. should i spit further away, is there any way to do my set up to cut down on distortion? or is it an effect i can play with?
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and also is there any link to those cool edit replacements that are free like cool edit? i had acid pro, dude told me that was better but shit wasn't workin right for me. should i try that agian or can someon hook me up wit somein else? if i gotta spend money dont worry about it
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Old 04-27-07, 12:19 AM   #15
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if you expect there to be a "quick way" to do something right in mixing, there isn't. i mix all day and even my "quick ways" are the exact same processes as "the long way", just done faster thanks to DP's Window Templates (which go from my Sequencing arrangement to my Mixing arangement in one step rather than 20), quicker interchanges that load the files exactly where and how i want them to, no exporting, etc. so make no mistake about it, there's no shortcut to good quality man. I can mix a track to "good" status in under an hour. But If you knew how long it took to mix a track to perfection you'd be surprised.

for distortion, step the hell back. you should be recording at least 4" away from your mic. recording with your lips on the mic is that made for TV or live performance shit.

and the only program you can get that'll be a substantial improvement to cooledit without being a brainraping program for a beginner is Cubase or Nuendo. i dunno if you can get it free or not, but El Rey did. Audition, Audacity and the like are all in the same hobby grade category and basically a paralell step to cooledit..
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