I honestly dont understand why anyone would vote for John McCain. I'm looking to find out?

I'm not interested in cutting the heads off of people who generate all of this capital in this country. I can't vote for somebody who doesn't know anything about capitalism. Sorry guys!

the guys who generate all the capital...generate it by taking their companies over-seas and getting people to work for less then americans would. Yeah, they bring in capital. But, no..it's not good for the country. People need jobs in order to continue to put money back into the economy..it's all one big cycle...and a lot of the bigger companies...are skipping an essential part of the cycle. We can have a ton of a capitol..but if people arn't working..the value of our dollar goes way down...so essentially..it doesn't matter if they are generating capital..or not.

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Well, essentially it just keeps the money where it's been since forever. It will stay in the hands of people who run those big corporations and not trickle down to people like Mime. The value of the dollar plummets, but since they have all the dollars anyways, I guess it doesnt really matter, right?

uhh...wrong...

if people are working, they make money. If they make money, they spend it. If they spend it, it filters back through the economy. If it filters back through the economy, the value of the dollar goes up...they have all the dollars because instead of employing and then paying americans...keeping the money within out economy...they take business elsehwere..and pay half of what they normally would

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All of the capital isn't being brought in from people working overseas. Some is, but not all -- not even most. I agree people need jobs and while unemployment has risen slightly, the natural unemployment rate should be about 5%, and in a couple of months that's where I expect it to go back to. There are plenty of jobs right now, and the unemployment rate isn't high relative to where it has been in the past (25% during The Great Depression, etc.).

I'm not really even talking about the big CEO's and shit, the people ranking in the top 1-2% of the population when it comes to income. I'm talking about your middle to upper-middle class people, mostly. There's way more of them then there are extremely rich people. I can't vote for somebody who, in a capitalistic economy, is going to tax the shit out of people when they start businesses, create jobs, and generate capital, so that it can be transferred down to the low income people (the people who aren't creating jobs and generating capital).

Taxes as a whole are a socialist concept, but drastically raising them is socialist and it's bullshit. Obama may win this election because there's a lot more bottom feeders in this country then are providers, but if the taxes do get raised by a lot you're going to see the people generating capital leaving or jumping through every loophole possible to avoid paying as much taxes as they're supposed to.

I know you know what you're talking about, so I'm hoping you can at least understand why I'm not down to ride with Obama's tax policies. I didn't make this thread to beef with anybody, I just wanted to see if I was the only person here planning to vote for McCain. Right now it's looking like I'm standing alone, so oh well hahaha.

yeah, i misunderstood you at first..but i got you now..very valid points too. Im with obama....but i definately don't disagree with your decision to go with mccain.

and you know me mime..it's never anything personal between us.

and i don't understand why other people take politics so personally.....BUSH IS LEAVING....that's all that really fucking matters at this point

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Yeah, I got you man. I was more directing that last bit to the people who are coming in here like voting for McCain makes zero sense whatsoever, when that's not the case at all. Bush's incompetent ass is leaving which is definitely a good thing, but at least he kept taxes down, hahaha.

Oh, and for those of you who think Bush gave tax cuts to the rich, you should really double check your figures because that hasn't been the case. In fact, if anybody would like to see the statistics behind who actually received the tax breaks, let me know and I'll post up the figures tomorrow. "Bush's tax cuts for the rich" has been political bullshit the entire time, as the facts suggest something completely different.

some valid points. but....really, why would Obama tax higher on people who are gerneating revune? if anything he'll tax the corpartions more, not the small end business's. N by taking money and giving it back to the 'bottom feeders' more money will be spend on things, pushing the value of the dollar back up. hopefully lowering costs of things.

i see your points, and i was for Mccain in 2000. So i'm not a Mccain hater, but after he went full blown Republican, he sure did loose his way

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yeah, hes going to tax the big buisness companies.. and going to tax less on the starting companies.. was stated on the dem convention.

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I don't know why Obama would tax the shit out of people who are generating capital -- that's been my whole point. And the economy doesn't work like that. Giving bottom feeders unearned money won't push the value of the dollar up, and it definitely won't lower the cost of anything. Who taught you macroeconomics?

Name one thing that you feel is priced too high and I'll explain why it's priced that high in 1-2 sentences max.

bro...who taught you econmics? Its common sense that if you give people money, most people spend it.

By givin money to lower income families, its goin to put more money back into smaller business's...and smaller business is what the economy needs.

Look @ the stimulas package....i'm not sayin that it did really anything spectaular, but it did help, regardless of what anyone says.

N what are you talkin bout? how is a higher dollar not goin to push prices down? Thats why prices are up, is because our dollar is so in the fuckin tank.

So please do explain....

--1 more thing, we have no middle class ne more...so until they figure out a way to make a middle class again...America will continue to be fucked.

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