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Old 01-30-04, 01:15 PM   #16
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Befor the black album dropped, Jay had 17million in sales. The only people ahead of him were beastie boys with 18million and 2pac with 35million. He probably passed the beasties already, but no one will pass pac. Anyway, just the fact that people make thread for thr single purpose of hating him proves that he is great.

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Old 01-30-04, 01:40 PM   #17
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Jay Iz Tha Greatest .... His Flow Is Dangerous .. Better Then Anyone Else ...
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Old 01-30-04, 01:54 PM   #18
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2pac
eminem
beasties
Mc hammer
and i think jay may have just 1 more million than nelly

don't get me wrong jay-z has sold alot of albums.......but he released 9 of them eminem just released 3 and has already passed him.

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Old 01-30-04, 02:21 PM   #19
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^^^oF course Eminem has........He's a house hold name that appeals to surban kids and is hyped by middle america so thats going into a market that Jay don;t have, or really care to have for the most part...Alot of people who don't even listen or like hip-hop who got a Eminem record, or didn;t start liking hip-hop until they got Eminem record....When you start selling like 7 or 8 mil...thats not all hip-hop fans that other folks....

But the flip side is Jay has a market that Em dosn;t have, and thats the streets and the the ground level respect.....which is very important in hip-hop....so when those greatest emcee list and convos come up thats why Jay is always #1 or close to it...and Eminem prolly won;t never get that type of respect no matter how many he sold.....
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Old 01-30-04, 03:30 PM   #20
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jay-z dosen't have the streets............and jay-z is one of the most commercial rappers i've ever seen............thats why noone can quote one of his lines without lookin it up.
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Old 01-30-04, 05:51 PM   #21
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^^your replies are stupid

Jay-Z has the streets..no1 except pac or big will pass him in that, even 50 or Nas
he a lyrical genius, switch up his flow every track, and spits real shit ppl from the street can relate to
Eminem of course will have more sells, HE'S WHITE!!!, most white people didnt even start rapping or liked rapping till Eminem arrived, plus he has the media attention on everything he does, why?, because HE'S WHITE
and Nelly is garbage, but he makes singalong, club & radio tracks, for all types of races and personalities...ppl from the street, suburbs, white, black, doesnt matter..every1 can dance to his shit, plus his sex appeal is reason being he selling so many records
so w/ them facts you cant knock Jay

i swear you are one of the stupidest ppl i heard
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Old 01-30-04, 06:38 PM   #22
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jay z is tite as fuck, one of the best mainstream artist out. who the fuck cares how much albums he's sold? immortal technique, canibus, aesop, and all them underground artists have sold way less than the mainstreams and theyre still better lyrically wise, message wise, poetry wise, and almost everyfucking way. Jay knows the streets but he doesnt always talk about the streets, he switches up what he raps about, he touches on every subject from his relationship with his father, drug deals,, inspiration, and life. Definetely not the best emcee but does deserve alot of respect for some of the shit hes done. Since when the fuck do record sales have mattered when comparing how good an artist is? only ignorant fucks take that shit seriously. to quote immortal technique "so if you go platinium, it has nuthin to do with luck, it just means a million people are stupid as fuck"
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Old 01-30-04, 07:52 PM   #23
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you ppl say who cares about hios record sales................well if he's one of the best and always braggs about money and women shouldn't his record selling ability be critiziced?................look theres no comparing em to jay......em is better...............and it's not cuz he's white and trust me noone hates whites more then i do..................em has hot lyrics that stay stuck in yo head................jay-z only makes a hit if he got a hot chorus and beat, eminem don't need a corus or a beat to make a hot song he relies on his lyrics.............u can endlessly quote em but i still don't see anyone being able to quote jay.................
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Jay-Z?...........................hahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! U kno' whut? I don't even think I HAVE to explain mah laughter! Jay-Z used to be coo, but he whack now! He just whack! that's it!
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Old 01-30-04, 08:27 PM   #25
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you ppl say who cares about hios record sales................well if he's one of the best and always braggs about money and women shouldn't his record selling ability be critiziced?................look theres no comparing em to jay......em is better...............and it's not cuz he's white and trust me noone hates whites more then i do..................em has hot lyrics that stay stuck in yo head................jay-z only makes a hit if he got a hot chorus and beat, eminem don't need a corus or a beat to make a hot song he relies on his lyrics.............u can endlessly quote em but i still don't see anyone being able to quote jay.................




"It goes, Reggie, Jay-Z, Tupac and Biggie, Andre from Outcast, Jada, Kurupt,
Nas and then me."

Hmmm...wonder who said this line in one of his songs...
answer Eminem

even the great eminem himself thinks jay is better...now that was not to
withdraw your opinion of who u think is better.you have the right to your opinion..
all these jay -z haters...be the main ones making the jayz is overrated/should just give it up threads...
if you dislike him..why even waste your time making threads about him
i hate jarule..never made not one "who hates jarule" thread
its a waste of time

record sells dont mean shit...listen to Jayz lyrics
he explains in more than one song why he is mainstream...
its all about money...going platinum is not easy...especially today
with bootlegging n shit..

get off jay....personally i thinks he dope..
and i dont need record sells to prove that to me either..
i dont give a dam how many records tupac...nas...Em...50...
fucking Nelly <--- lol for even mentioning his name)or
Mc hammer sold
with the exception of nas cus i think he's dope
none of these other cats can even hold a candle to jay...
so fuck the sells...and the media because they promote who they feels
should represent the main stream which is where Eminem comes in
no disrespect to Em...he took advantage of his skill and his skin color
to get where he is...which he makes mention in several of his songs
the truth is in the content and the lyrics my friends not records sells...
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Old 01-30-04, 08:46 PM   #26
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Sales dont mean shit Gunman, just cos he doesnt sell as much as weak MC's like Nelly who could be merked by 99% of this site, doesnt mean hes worse.

And for the record, the only commercial rapper comparable to Jay-Z is Nas; otherwise, Jay-Z is the best commercial rapper out there - fuck sales.
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Old 01-30-04, 08:50 PM   #27
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This whole thread is BS, HOVA is the best emcee out. Fuck record sells
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Old 01-30-04, 09:06 PM   #28
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i know alot of you will say records sales don't mean anything he still the best......


no jay-z's not the best, not ever one of the best. but record skills still dont mean shit for how much skills you got.alot of underground rappers arent selling shit but they are still better then 98% of the mainstream rappers.

fuck using record sales to prove if someone is good or not, get the fuck out of here with that bullshit
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em is better...............and it's not cuz he's white and trust me noone hates whites more then i do


and u are now the biggest fuckin idiot on the site. dont even post anymore asshole. u just lost any thread of credibility u had in this discussion. racist asshole
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Hard knock life vol.2 was his best.....it sold the most and was the best thats it close the thread.


he said that in another thread.

you a idiot. using record sales to determin how good someone is. get out of here with that bullshit.

rakim, canibus, brother ali, louis logic, vakil pete rock and cl smooth, gangstarr, oc, mos def, talib kweli, de la soul, pharoahe monch, krs one, big l, InI, jean grae, raekwon, common, az, jeru the damaja, big pun, notorious big, redman, non phixion, the roots, atmosphere,cormega, immortal techinque, zion i, chino xl, planet asia, binary star, .......i could go on forever.

all of them are better then these shitty ass pop artists selling millions of CDs, CD SALES DONT MEAN SHIT! the way to rap is what makes you dope, not how many CDs you sell.

i could tell your into that pop rap bullshit, because you seem like one of those people that doesnt have his own opinion, you probabley let other peoples opinon on music influince your opinions, thats why your making the stupid ass arguement about record sales.
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