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Old 05-14-05, 09:44 PM   #16
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every place has a ghetto.............so stfu mr "King" america isnt the only place to have gang violence......shit.....learn somthing then come talk about what does and doesnt have ghettos/gangs...........

now to the topic
i think love is overly used.......the word.......cuz you hear ppl say it all the time.......but really im sure they dont have the actual "love" feeling towards that person........cuz i mean you can lend someone money and then they reply..."ohh i love you" -as an xample...........but i agree some people see other as being inlove pussy....but they are just jealous because they cant have that type of relationship or arent in that type of one.........soo people envy those in love....so they feel the need to lash out at them by mocking them and calling them whipped and shit..........i mean damn i went out it a girl for 3 yrs and we never once had sex....granted i was young....but we both knew we were in love........so sex didnt matter........i really dont see the actual deal of sex...i mean yeh sure it feels good...but if you think about it.....it just gets younger people in trouble.....cuz they have kids at like the age of 12 or youngr........its really sad......plus sex can get you life threatening diseases.....so i mean im not a virgin......but its best for people to save it for the one they love or know they want to have their children...cuz if not......you can be in for a rude awakening.......and yet people mock others if they want to remain a virigin till their honey moon.......but in a sense it makes sense to do that.........so yes i agree love isnt pussy......your a pussy if you hate on love
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Old 05-14-05, 09:50 PM   #17
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i feel this topic 100%
honestly i think lots of guys scared ta fall in love
cuz for 1 nowadays lots of chicks are gold diggers and ho's
who fuck fa money
and the guys dont wanna catch a feelin for a chick like that
so dey go around fuckin chicks who fine n thick as hell
its basickally not the guys fault...its the ladies
guys wouldnt be like that if chicks dont make theyself seem dat way
I Mean come on,not any guy in they right mind gone love a video chick
or a project chick,or a chick wit a car house,nice clothes but she has no job......
Me personally..i wouldnt catch feelins for a chick until i know her like a family member and she keeps herself focused and got her head on str8
Love really isnt the issue on this topic ta me
its how the indivisual carries themself
U Act like a Thug u gone atract BITCHEs,in which ur not gonna love
U act like a gentlemen and ur gonna atract the WOMEN(not bitches or ho'z)


this prolly isnt on topic...but ay im highhhhh as fuck right now!
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Old 05-14-05, 10:09 PM   #18
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every place has a ghetto.............so stfu mr "King" america isnt the only place to have gang violence......shit.....learn somthing then come talk about what does and doesnt have ghettos/gangs...........

now to the topic
i think love is overly used.......the word.......cuz you hear ppl say it all the time.......but really im sure they dont have the actual "love" feeling towards that person........cuz i mean you can lend someone money and then they reply..."ohh i love you" -as an xample...........but i agree some people see other as being inlove pussy....but they are just jealous because they cant have that type of relationship or arent in that type of one.........soo people envy those in love....so they feel the need to lash out at them by mocking them and calling them whipped and shit..........i mean damn i went out it a girl for 3 yrs and we never once had sex....granted i was young....but we both knew we were in love........so sex didnt matter........i really dont see the actual deal of sex...i mean yeh sure it feels good...but if you think about it.....it just gets younger people in trouble.....cuz they have kids at like the age of 12 or youngr........its really sad......plus sex can get you life threatening diseases.....so i mean im not a virgin......but its best for people to save it for the one they love or know they want to have their children...cuz if not......you can be in for a rude awakening.......and yet people mock others if they want to remain a virigin till their honey moon.......but in a sense it makes sense to do that.........so yes i agree love isnt pussy......your a pussy if you hate on love.word.


@ first part I bolded. damn straight, well put, yo. I agree wit that 100% on. really same shit goes on wit me.

@ second bold. lmao weerd, good way to put it lmao
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Old 05-14-05, 10:11 PM   #19
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i feel this topic 100%
honestly i think lots of guys scared ta fall in love
cuz for 1 nowadays lots of chicks are gold diggers and ho's
who fuck fa money
and the guys dont wanna catch a feelin for a chick like that
so dey go around fuckin chicks who fine n thick as hell
its basickally not the guys fault...its the ladies
guys wouldnt be like that if chicks dont make theyself seem dat way
I Mean come on,not any guy in they right mind gone love a video chick
or a project chick,or a chick wit a car house,nice clothes but she has no job......
Me personally..i wouldnt catch feelins for a chick until i know her like a family member and she keeps herself focused and got her head on str8
Love really isnt the issue on this topic ta me
its how the indivisual carries themself
U Act like a Thug u gone atract BITCHEs,in which ur not gonna love
U act like a gentlemen and ur gonna atract the WOMEN(not bitches or ho'z)



this prolly isnt on topic...but ay im highhhhh as fuck right now!

No, you ARE on topic. And said it nicely. props yo

wow... that is good shit right there. And really tru. By acting like a "thug", girls jus fall for you and jus wanna have a one night stand, or jus wanna fuck you for your money. That's all they care about. But if you act kind, like a gentlemen and such, then you gonna attract the real down to earth type girls. Who kno what they wanna do wit their lives, and aren't "loose" if you kno what I mean.

However actin like a gentleman where im from...u don't attract as much coz most the women here wanna roll wit so called "bad boys"...so people act like "bad boys " to pull

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haha yeah i know about love........but ive only been inlove twice.......and both times i had to end it......first was cuz we only saw each other over the summer.....and the second was cuz i was moving from PA(pennsylvania) to MD(maryland)
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Old 05-14-05, 11:08 PM   #21
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^yea, I feel ya. But I still think long distance relationships can work. But the hard part is, you'll feel bad a lot of times cuz you can't be wit them, and you'll lose focus on other things and worry bout that all the time.
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^yea, I feel ya. But I still think long distance relationships can work. But the hard part is, you'll feel bad a lot of times cuz you can't be wit them, and you'll lose focus on other things and worry bout that all the time.



^word fa real. i been in a long distance relationship. itz hard as hell to make it work. in the end we bof decided that it would be mutually beneficial to bof of us if we were jus friends. but as far as love being pussy...well i guess i've been a pussy once in my life. i dont let niggas who think dat luv is pussy botha me cuz i kno that their simple minded asses cant comprehend the depths of the heart and emotions and feelings that feed off of it. hell they dumb asses prolly gone get sum kinda STD cuz all they do iz fuck ne female who sayz they will give it up. yea all guyz luv pussy...but pussy cant come no where close ta real true love. so if i'm a pussy cuz i've been in love and i believe in love and all dat...then i accept dat. but wut does that make erybody who doesnt?
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Old 05-15-05, 11:35 AM   #23
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^word fa real. i been in a long distance relationship. itz hard as hell to make it work. in the end we bof decided that it would be mutually beneficial to bof of us if we were jus friends. but as far as love being pussy...well i guess i've been a pussy once in my life. i dont let niggas who think dat luv is pussy botha me cuz i kno that their simple minded asses cant comprehend the depths of the heart and emotions and feelings that feed off of it. hell they dumb asses prolly gone get sum kinda STD cuz all they do iz fuck ne female who sayz they will give it up. yea all guyz luv pussy...but pussy cant come no where close ta real true love. so if i'm a pussy cuz i've been in love and i believe in love and all dat...then i accept dat. but wut does that make erybody who doesnt?

yea, def agree. And about the sex. I jus don't wanna have sex wit some hoe that I met last night in the club. I'd rather do it with a girl I really love, and enjoy bein wit. Especially for the first time. nah mean? But yea, some mainstream artist really should make a song about this shit, and try to get it heard by a lot of people, but he'd prolly be to worried about his image and shit.


and to Mad Dog on the bad boy thing, yea, I feel you on that, but I mean, you can still be a bad boy, but you shouldn't be doin' like stupid shit, like you shouldn't try to act something you aren't. Just be yourself really. Because think about it, if you ACT like something to get a girl. When you get her, are you gonna ACT like a "Bad boy" all the time wit her? No, you'll prolly act more like yourself. So it's best just to be yourself and see what happens.
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mad dog.. ya if you got a kid and u in love be in love you got resposiblitlies... but for cats dat aint got a kid and dont have responsibilities like me... i want to be able to live my life and experience different things and different girls and i dont know how old you are, but im 18 and need to live still so even if love comes along at my age i aint takin the shit cuz i wanna live and shit... when i live for a while and that loves true it'll be there later, and if not i prolly am ganna have more fun with life and not get stuck with a girl i aint really in love with.
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At the end of the day all hip hop is, is music....all the prechers, politicians, activists, etc protesting rap did they suddenly turn into hores after watching 50 cent's "jus a little bit" video once on MTV?......your arguement is stupid....under your arguement you are a womanizer too becuz u like rap...its on a individual basis....rap is a reflection of society..pimps & hoes been around long before rap....jus rap is the only music to bluntly showcase it....same as black men been calling each other niggas long before rap ever started....but when rappers do it...all of a sudden "OMG this is an outrage"...its a real shame that rappers get judged for talking about REAL LIFE in a real way but thats how it is in america, the phony are appluaded, the real are shunned...an this thread is a prime example of that

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^yo sucka foo, it don't matter. They still ARE HEroes AND Idols to the youth. Look at sports players. You think they want to be idols? I read Sports Illustrated and they were talkin' about what you think fo players as idols (it was right after Ron Artest shit) and Ken Griffey Jr. Said, "It's wrong for fans to make us out to be idols. But since we get a lot of money to do what we do, and we are all over the place, video games, TV, etc. We gain that responsibility whether we want it or not" <That is the same wit rap. All the rappers prolly don't wanna be idols and shit, but people look up to them whether they like it or not. They get played all the time, and all the lil kids see it.
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your arguement is stupid....under your arguement you are a womanizer too becuz u like rap

Nah, jus because you like to listen to somethin' doesn't mean you follow everything it says. I jus follow the good messages they send, I ain't all up in player/pimp shit. Jus like you can like somebody as your friend, but you ain't gonna follow everything they say, like if they told you to jump of a bridge, you wouldn't do it. So jus because I listen to rap, don't mean I am a womanizer.

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same as black men been calling each other niggas long before rap ever started....but when rappers do it...all of a sudden "OMG this is an outrage"..

^well were those black men gettin' paid millions of dollars and are they bein' played all over the place on radio, TV, and shit like that? nope. So of course there is gonna be an outrage.

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its a real shame that rappers get judged for talking about REAL LIFE in a real way but thats how it is in america, the phony are appluaded, the real are shunned...

Yea, they can talk about it. But what this whole thread is is about how they glorify it, sayin' it's the way to be. please don't tell me "P.I.M.P" is showin' how REAL LIFE is. Because it doesn't. It jus is 50 tryin' to show how to live the "cool" life. Playin' women and shit. Like theirs a different in sayin:

" I went to chill wit my man, he be playin' 3 girls, lyin' like damn"

^that's not promotin' anything, jus sayin' what people do.

"Shake that ass girl,do that shit right, look at me, I'm a pimp, fuckin' 20 girls a night"

^thats glorifyin' bein' a player/pimp.

Yes, the examples sucked, but still there is a difference between sayin' what is REAL and glorifyin' it. this thread has nothing to do wit what rappers sayin' as REAL LIFE shit, this is talkin' about how they glorify playin' women as bein' somethin' "cool".

weerd, this has been a page out of SPuL's huge ass book of knowledge, yo. pc one.
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Believe it or not but it's easy for someone to be in love and be in "the hood".. well in chicago hoodz yeah, i dated 2 gang members before and they never disclaimed me nor showed less affection near their boyz, but they had enough repect for me and my fam to not have me around their "business". When something went down, my guy Law would be tell me not to wait up cuz he dunno what's gonna happen that night. And it got nerve recking because how do you go on knowing that someone you really care for is setting themselves up to die or know their gonna die and tell you not to worry. That was the hardest thing, and there's not many ways to get outta gangs. So you can't just be like oh baby plz leave the gang when they have feelings for you they start feeling like they shouldn't be in it no more. But they stuck. If i feel like someone's lifestyle is going to harm my family, then i can't deal with it. So i left both them cuz that's just plain unhealthy, if i was to see either one of them til this day, i'd be happy and say what's up but they know how the lifestyle is so they ain't mad or pissed or nothing about me leaving. I put my feelings on hold for the safety of my family. @ king thug
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.............I've noticed that on RV, AND in the hip-hop community as a whole, the majority think that love is pussy, and that you should be a pimp or player. Go around having sex with a different girl everynight, and playing with their emotions and such to their advantage. These people see this as "cool". As you can see in all the music video nowadays. Barely covered women, all throwing themselves over the rapper, and getting drunk with them and such. I, myself, don't see ANY reason at ALL why this would be considered "cool". I mean what makes you so "cool", or "gangsta", by treating a girl like dirt? Why is it so cool to have sex with every single girl you meet? I mean, I hear about people who been doing it since they 11, and keep playing girls, having sex with them and shit. Hopefully the lil' bastards end up getting HIV, herpes, or some sort of STD.
..............And to talk about the love being pussy... WHY? Why is it so bad to react to your natural feelings of being attracted to the opposite sex? I mean God created us to have feelings like that, so why should people be calling love "pussy"? Is something God himself wanted us to feel, pussy? I don't think so. The people who started this extremely stupid title for love, must be some lonely ass pimpled faced motherfuckas, who probably got rejected by 100+ women, and prolly 20+ men as well. Then the sad part is this. For example:
...............12 year old Bobby is a big hip-hop fan. He doesn't like listening to the radio, so he turns the TV onto MTV2. He is happy to see that it is on "Hip-Hop countdown" on "Sucka Free Sunday, AIIGHT?!?". His favorite song, "On Fire", comes on and he happily turns the volume up in anticipation. As he is watching, Bobby sees Lloyd Banks rapping away acting all thugged out, dropping shit on guards, and then he sees all these barely covered ladies shaking it like they punch drunk or some shit. In one clip this girl pretends to take off her bra, but doesn't do it. He also sees Lloyd Banks and 50 Cent near a pool with many different women. After seeing this Bobby thinks to himself, "Damn, fuck this love shit. I wanna be like 50, yo. 20+ women. Damn, yo. I wanna be a P.I.M.P. Fuck love!!! fuckin' whipped losers." He then turns TV off and goes off to do his so called "Pimping".
.......... ^Ok shit, like this is the reason why more and more people keep thinking love is pussy, and that they NEED to play women and be lil Pimps to be considered "cool". I don't blame people who talk bad on hip-hop for this. There are soo many nice songs out there, that send good messages. Songs like "Just A Moment", "Lose Yourself", etc. But what songs get the most song play? songs that say "Down these females crawl, down to my sweaty balls". So the people who ain't "hip-hoppers", only see this side of hip-hop, and then have a bad attitude towards hip-hop. Hip-hop is killing itself by potraying this image. Hip-hop really should focus on making their songs with POSITIVE messages be the songs that they play around the most. But then again, artists want to sell and make money, so I don't think that will ever happen. So there's nothing that can be done.
............Also, another topic. If a guy who is going out with a girl, shows his girl a lot of attention and treats her right (Which he SHOULD), his friends call him "whipped" and "She got you on a leash". I mean, seriously, again, WHAT THE FUCK? Just because you might be some ugly little pimpled faced brat, and don't have a girlfriend, doesn't mean you can make fun of someone who is in love. If you're in love, and you're going out with a girl, you should treat her with the utmost respect, block out what your so called "Friends" say to you. I find that mostly it's the people who jealous of the guy being in a relationship and shit like that. Me, myself, I was REAL close friends with this girl. And we used to chill a lot, and I used to walk her to class and shit, and if she didn't have any money, I'd lend her a dollar. My friends were like, you're whipped, and shit like that. I mean, damn, this type of peer pressure is another reason why people go in the wrong direction towards "Pimpmanship". Seriously, just block out your "friends" and do what comes natural to you.
...............In conclusion, girls are people too. You should treat them how you want people to treat you: with respect. If everyone is hating on you for being in love, just grow some balls and just ignore the hate, and keep doing what you do. I mean, really, which would you rather be: Someone who meets a girl in high school and end up marrying her in your early 20's. And having a nice family with her and a nice long relationship that lasts till you die, around 70 or 80. Or someone who is a "pimp", who plays girls till he like 30, and then realizes, that he should get a girl to be with for the rest of his life or so, but can't because he has a reputation for being a "player" and no girl will want to have a relationship with him. And as his looks go away, and he loses his hair (if he had hair to start out with), and then he starts getting none. And he lives out a lonely life and dies without a loving wife. You choose.

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i feel this topic 100%
honestly i think lots of guys scared ta fall in love
cuz for 1 nowadays lots of chicks are gold diggers and ho's
who fuck fa money
and the guys dont wanna catch a feelin for a chick like that
so dey go around fuckin chicks who fine n thick as hell
its basickally not the guys fault...its the ladies
guys wouldnt be like that if chicks dont make theyself seem dat way
I Mean come on,not any guy in they right mind gone love a video chick
or a project chick,or a chick wit a car house,nice clothes but she has no job......
Me personally..i wouldnt catch feelins for a chick until i know her like a family member and she keeps herself focused and got her head on str8
Love really isnt the issue on this topic ta me
its how the indivisual carries themself
U Act like a Thug u gone atract BITCHEs,in which ur not gonna love
U act like a gentlemen and ur gonna atract the WOMEN(not bitches or ho'z)


this prolly isnt on topic...but ay im highhhhh as fuck right now!


Everybody hold their own responsiblity. Everyone is their own individual, it's isn't the ladies fault nor the males fault. It ain't no now-a-days thing, there always have been sluts even females that strip so they can have food on the table. Some people are quick to judge a female for being a stripper when in fact she could be better-ing herself at school and paying for college that way. Things ain't always what they made out to be, think of players club movie, i know a lotta females who feel they "have" to strip for money so they can pay bills. and about Thugs attracted bitches that is not necessarily true. I know a lotta females that are kind that love dating thugs because they feel protected at a certain time in my life i felt that way but i dated complete gentlemens as well. Preferences depend on the person. I have no certain preference in guys and i'm not NEAR being a hoe, but i'm saying each individual knows what they like or want in a mate or boyfriend. I can see where you were getting that from tho.
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